9/10 vs Rays

[d-money]

Offense has to find a way and score some runs! Let's go! Each game's huge.

[Maxbialystock]

Why doe Farrell continue to pitch this guy? I rather see somebody else. He destroys any momentum we have.

 

He won the CY last year and he's being paid $20M this year. Almost every inning--except for the lucky ones--he pitches must be torture for Farrell No one would use him were it not for those bucks and last season. All other starters know how to win games and what it takes, but not Porcello. He likes his fastball and he generally likes to throw pitches up.

[Maxbialystock]

Was Travis running full bore on that grounder?

[Maxbialystock]

Sox have 3 singles in this game because Cobb is pitching great--lots of pitches down in the zone but also in or near the strike zone. He's got several good breaking pitches.

[d-money]

Offense missing. Wish they had save some of those runs for today.

[TylerD]

He won the CY last year and he's being paid $20M this year. Almost every inning--except for the lucky ones--he pitches must be torture for Farrell No one would use him were it not for those bucks and last season. All other starters know how to win games and what it takes, but not Porcello. He likes his fastball and he generally likes to throw pitches up.

 

With saying that gen has been much better the second half of the season and he hasn't been bad today. 2 runs is far from horrible. He is still giving us a chance to win. The offense Is laying an egg right now.

[d-money]

Need to keep this at 1

[OH FOY]

JBJ almost over ran it.

[Maxbialystock]

Good at bat by Mookie. Yes, he should have nailed that very fat fastball, but he still go the BB and made Cobb throw a lot of pitches.

[d-money]

Everytime porcello pitches it'a mostly bad karma. How many losses will this be now?

[OH FOY]

Remdog and Eck with OB, its gooooood.

[FredLynn]

Everytime porcello pitches it'a mostly bad karma. How many losses will this be now?

 

17

 

He has a good chance to lose 20 games. And thats hard to do. I don't know why he still has a job.

[Maxbialystock]

Bad as Porcello was, he only gave up 2 in 5 innings and handed over 2-1 game, which Workman and Scott quickly made 4-1 with 2 dingers. That means that for the last 3 innings of the game, getting 1 run to tie won't help. Big edge and help to the Bays bullpen which is pretty good anyway.

 

Not happy with the lineup, obviously, but they did their part in the last 4 wins.

[Maxbialystock]

Bogaers, Betts, Moreland, and Devers all hitless after 8 innings. Farrell rarely has 6 lefty bats, but today he did. Not much help against Cobb, who I thought pitched very well.

[Maxbialystock]

An interesting contrast is that the Rays brought in a lefty reliever with 2 on and no one out. No sweat: two grounds, including a GIDP, inning over. Scott gets the same number of outs as dingers--1 each.

[SoxHop]

Boring ass loss that you kind of felt was going to happen in the first few innings.......

[Maxbialystock]

With saying that gen has been much better the second half of the season and he hasn't been bad today. 2 runs is far from horrible. He is still giving us a chance to win. The offense Is laying an egg right now.

 

Fair enough. Not however, a quality start because he only went 5. Indeed the 4th and 5th innings were both scary because Porcello had started throw lots of fat pitches. We are thrilled because he didn't absolutely blow the game up. In my opinion--just that--he has not turned a corner.

 

I freely grant however that the bullpen and lineup were both worse. The box score says they lost it, and the box is right.

[moonslav59]

Had we won 9-4, I doubt many would have much of an issue with Porcello's performance.

[Maxbialystock]

Had we won 9-4, I doubt many would have much of an issue with Porcello's performance.

 

Completely true and me definitely included. Plus I agree the bullpen and the lineup were the real culprits. I'm being hard on Porcello only because I honestly did not see the starter we will need down the road. And you can certainly feel free to disagree with that.

[TylerD]

Completely true and me definitely included. Plus I agree the bullpen and the lineup were the real culprits. I'm being hard on Porcello only because I honestly did not see the starter we will need down the road. And you can certainly feel free to disagree with that.

 

I also don't blame you for being hard on him. With the year he had last season it's almost weird that we consider 5 innings 5 hits and 2 runs good. But sadly because of the year he has had that is actually a pretty solid outing for him lol.

[FredLynn]

Had we won 9-4, I doubt many would have much of an issue with Porcello's performance.

 

I would have had an issue with it anyway. As Remy and Eck pointed out many times during the game today, Porcello was leaving fat pitches in the middle of the plate that the Rays generally missed. One of Porcello's many problems this year is the HR ball, and today the Rays just missed pitches. He was very lucky to have allowed just the two runs. He simply hasn't been pitching well, and there is no time left to wait for him to get it together. I would give Brian Johnson a shot at his job right now.

[jacksonianmarch]

I watched most of Porcello's start. Wow, were there some seriously fat pitches the Rays missed. Dickerson is in quite a funk. Porcello put the ball down the middle and begged him to hit it. Dickerson is pulling out so bad that he can only hit something on the inside of the plate

[Kimmi]

With saying that gen has been much better the second half of the season and he hasn't been bad today. 2 runs is far from horrible. He is still giving us a chance to win. The offense Is laying an egg right now.

 

Thank you. Porcello was not great today, but he was not the problem either. Lack of offense was.

[Kimmi]

You all have to go back and watch this play if you aren't watching now. Vaszquez slides into home and is called out. Farrell challenges it. He's still called out.......

 

It is beyond obvious he was safe.....

 

Bogus call by the replay crew. The Rays fielders returned to the field because they knew Vazquez was safe. That's how obvious it was.

[a700hitter]

Bogus call by the replay crew. The Rays fielders returned to the field because they knew Vazquez was safe. That's how obvious it was.

It looked clear that he was safe.

[moonslav59]

Bogus call by the replay crew. The Rays fielders returned to the field because they knew Vazquez was safe. That's how obvious it was.

 

It really seems like the fix is in.

[Spudboy]

Had we won 9-4, I doubt many would have much of an issue with Porcello's performance.

 

I though he did okay.

[Spudboy]

Vasquez was clearly safe.

 

I have no idea how the NY crew saw anything else unless they did not get the right field feed and that is very unlikely.

 

I can understand the ump making the wrong cal, but with slo-mo and replays galore upholding that call is a huge mistake.

 

Not that it seemed to matter.

 

The Sox had only 5 hits.

[Slasher9]

There was no indisputable evidence that his foot actually touched the plate. Hence they had to go with the call on the field. They should sensor the plate to light up when contacted....and robot umps.

[SoxHop]

There was no indisputable evidence that his foot actually touched the plate. Hence they had to go with the call on the field. They should sensor the plate to light up when contacted....and robot umps.

 

and confetti cannons ...........