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Just saw the baseball gods took their revenge on ARod's farewell. 5 minutes in, a massive thunderstrom ended the ceremony.

 

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

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I have heartburn with Farrell too, but the comparison to Girardi is flaky. Specifically,

 

In game 1 Girardi was the one who left his starter Severino in too long which cost the Yankees the game. Me, I think 5 runs is OK for a starter if you're trying to save your bullpen, but you guys have tough standards. Farrell meanwhile, handled his pitchers to perfection. He kept Porcello in for 110 pitches, 8 innings, and 2 runs. Then he brought in our $9M closer Kimbrel, who promptly disintegrated, but not enough to cost the game. At just the right moment, in came Barnes to get the K and the save.

 

In game 2 Girardi wasn't brilliant. He simply had no choice. His starter couldn't go beyond 1 inning, simple as that. He ended up using 8 pitchers who got away with just 4 runs because our guys were 2 for 11 with RISP. In the 6th Pomeranz typically ran out of steam, and brought in Buch, who, we should note, was now officially a starter, at the right time to get the GIDP on 3 pitches and the Sox into the 7th inning with a 4-1 lead. Then, according to you guys, Farrell blundered by bringing in Barnes, the same guy who got the save the night before and only faced one batter, to get the Sox to the 8th inning, that is, to get three outs. Instead, he gave up 3 hits and 3 runs and got only 1 out. How in the world is that the manager's fault? You guys over-rely on 20-20 hindsight. Next came the newly acquired lefty Abad, who promptly gave up 2 more runs while only getting 1 out. This too was not Farrel's fault. Finally, Tazawa comes in to give up 2 more runs and to get the final out. The only reasonable explanation for that debacle is that bullpen collapsed. They were handed a 4-1 lead and couldn't even hold it for 1 inning.

 

There's more. You guys keep talking about how aggressive Girardi was. I've already pointed out he had not choice for the first five innings. In the final four innings when the game was decided, it was Farrell, not Girardi, who used the most pitchers--5 to 3. Girardi used fewer pitchers because his relievers were getting outs and in fact closed the game with 4 shutout innings. To me it is beyond question that the difference in game 2 was that one team had a good bullpen and the other had a pile of s***. You guys want me to believe Farrell was stupid because he didn't use two starters to finish the entire game in game 2. Lots of luck with that.

 

As for game 3, I agree it is arguable on whether Farrell should have sent ERod back out to pitch the 8th. But guess what? Assuming he did pitch the 8th, Ziegler still comes out for the 9th and is still a good bet to give up some runs because he clearly over-relies on the uncoventional pitching motion and angle of attack.

 

When I look back on the Yankees series what I see is an absolutely horrendous bullpen which would have lost all 3 games if Farrell hadn't intervened in the 9th of game 1. I also see weak hitting. And who was our best reliever in the series? The only guy who was now a starter and only needed 3 pitches to get 2 outs. We don't know if he could have done the same thing in the 7th, but we do know one thing. Once Buchholz left the game, the rest of the bullpen was ready to s*** in their pants again.

 

I am not really defending Farrell because I would have no objection if he were fired today. What I am defending is the notion that the bullpen was our problem in the Yankees series and secondarily our hitting.

 

Thats your view and I respect that. You seem to like to sit back and throw out barbs at posts. Not sure what your problem is. You Make excuses for Farrell, but don't mind if he gets fired. WTF... Who are you... A Red Sox fan or a grumpy old SOB. I like your "You Guys" comments lol...

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Just the poops! Pedey will be ok!
They call it flu like symptoms. LOL!! Now I know why the 8th worst base runner in baseball went second to home so fast -- because he had to go!
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