Red Sox Sign Hanley Ramirez

[Gringo]

Presumably to play LF, with Cespedes clearly the big chip in a trade for a pitcher...

[InfernoOrangeSS]

I like it.

[kapsis21]

Confirmed.!! I am okay with it. little more money then i would have liked, but Hanley is a bat i always wanted in our lineup.

[Northern Star]

Presumably to play LF, with Cespedes clearly the big chip in a trade for a pitcher...

 

Big money for a guy who has not played a single game in the OF so far as I can tell. I do know his penchant for laziness, so are we gonna see him lolligag after balls into the corner, a la Soriano?

[seabeachfred]

Big money for a guy who has not played a single game in the OF so far as I can tell. I do know his penchant for laziness, so are we gonna see him lolligag after balls into the corner, a la Soriano?

 

Ramirez comes with a helluva lot of baggage. Remember, he had soured himself with the Red Sox BEFORE he was traded, was a cancer in Florida despite two solid seasons there, and was pretty much shown the door in Los Angeles because of his proneness to injuries and his miserable fielding skills at short. We should have made Lester an offer he simply could not refuse. We blew it there and may pay for it for the next few years unless we get two top quality starting pitchers not named Santana, Hemmels, McCarthy or Masterson.

[Palodios]

We should have made Lester an offer he simply could not refuse. We blew it there and may pay for it for the next few years unless we get two top quality starting pitchers not named Santana, Hemmels, McCarthy or Masterson.

 

Two different sources came out today saying the Red Sox are getting close on a Lester deal. Not today, but eventually. Wesley -- the leak from the Pablo/Hanley stories-- has a source saying the Red Sox have expressed willness to move their offer up to 140 million

[Jasonbay44]

I love this signing, Hanley should rake at Fenway if he can stay healthy and I've wanted this man back in Boston for a long time.. Where is he supposed to be playing though? I heard the OF? I guess a few guys will be moved along with Cespedes.. Edited November 24, 2014 by Jasonbay44

[Spudboy]

Two different sources came out today saying the Red Sox are getting close on a Lester deal. Not today, but eventually. Wesley -- the leak from the Pablo/Hanley stories-- has a source saying the Red Sox have expressed willness to move their offer up to 140 million

 

That would do it.

[seabeachfred]

Two different sources came out today saying the Red Sox are getting close on a Lester deal. Not today, but eventually. Wesley -- the leak from the Pablo/Hanley stories-- has a source saying the Red Sox have expressed willness to move their offer up to 140 million

 

Damn it Pal, don't start getting my hopes too high!!!!! That would be wonderful news if it was true.....I'm just waiting and hoping the other shoe doesn't drop. If we do get Jon, and I'm still not believing we will, we're going to have to go over that luxury tax and we've been hell bent for leather not to go over that for the past half-dozen years or so.

[Orange Juiced]

seabeachfred, the Sox will trade Cespedes and his contract. They can sign Lester and trade for another #2 starter and still be under the luxury tax threshold.

[Elktonnick]

The Sox have plenty of money available in 2016 and beyond not to worry about the the Lux tax. I agree that Cepedes won't be on the books come spring training.

[Palodios]

Damn it Pal, don't start getting my hopes too high!!!!! That would be wonderful news if it was true.....I'm just waiting and hoping the other shoe doesn't drop. If we do get Jon, and I'm still not believing we will, we're going to have to go over that luxury tax and we've been hell bent for leather not to go over that for the past half-dozen years or so.

 

I would imagine that this organization prefers to spend 200 million on a winning team over 150 million on a losing one. One report coming in is saying that the Red Sox are giving a Lester a day or two to consider their offers, and then they're moving on to Scherzer.

[GomesBeard]

I'm not too concerned about Hanley dogging it. There are plenty of guys on the Sox who can make sure he plays hard, including Big Papi, who I think I read somewhere is greatly respected by HanRam. No one on the Dodgers has the cache that Big Papi does - I think that's one of the issues with that team, a real lack of leadership in the clubhouse.

[Orange Juiced]

The Hanley dogging it meme is WAY overplayed. We remember the play where he jogged into LF to retrieve that one ball. Ok, that was YEARS ago. He will be fine here. Goodness, Ortiz practically walks to first base if he hits a grounder into the shift. Of course, he practically walks to first base when he hits one 450 feet to right center too. :-)

[BSN07]

No interest in Scherzer at all from me. I dont see that arm aging well at all and he will be another Boras albatross.

 

Also fred, ownership stated recently that going over the LT this season wouldn't discourage them from the right player.

[kapsis21]

Scherzer turned down a 144million offer from Detroit, i bet any other team is going to come even slight bit close to that offer other than the yankees or dodgers. he just shot himself in the foot i think.

[BSN07]

Scherzer will get 175M from the Yanks or Nats, maybe Detroit imo. And i will laugh vigorously..

[St. Louis Carter]

I don't know what the f*** you guys are worried about with HanRam. If ever there was a man I would like to take a bead on with a high powered rifle when he steps to the plate it's that man! I swear, I never saw the guy strike out. All he does is murder NL pitching. As to his hustle: he does it! (now)

 

It IS true, however, that he's as fragile as Derrick Rose's grammy, so he must be used wisely. I'm glad to wave bye-bye to the guy!

[seabeachfred]

I would imagine that this organization prefers to spend 200 million on a winning team over 150 million on a losing one. One report coming in is saying that the Red Sox are giving a Lester a day or two to consider their offers, and then they're moving on to Scherzer.

 

Moving on to Scherzer???? No freakin' way. If we lose Lester and fail to trade for Hamels the Yankees will get into the Scherzer sweepstakes and WE HAVE NEVER OUTBID THEM FOR ANY GOOD PLAYER BOTH OF US COVETED. We will wind up empty with a pack of low risk high reward bums who will fail miserably and keep us in the middle of the AL East pack.....if that high.

[seabeachfred]

No interest in Scherzer at all from me. I dont see that arm aging well at all and he will be another Boras albatross.

 

Also fred, ownership stated recently that going over the LT this season wouldn't discourage them from the right player.

 

We'll see BSN. But talk is cheap and we know some of our front office are a pack of ******** artists. I'll believe it when I see it and right now I think getting those two was a big mistake without addressing our pitching needs first. STARTING PITCHING WIN CHAMPUIONSHIPS!!!!! and right now we have crapola in that regard.

[InfernoOrangeSS]

We'll see BSN. But talk is cheap and we know some of our front office are a pack of ******** artists. I'll believe it when I see it and right now I think getting those two was a big mistake without addressing our pitching needs first. STARTING PITCHING WIN CHAMPUIONSHIPS!!!!! and right now we have crapola in that regard.

I don't understand why pitching needed to be addressed first. I fully expect the FO to address it. You address your needs as they come available to be addressed. I agree SP wins championships. Let's see what they do about it before spewing vitriolic posts. If they sh!t the bed on pitching, I'll be right beside you complaining. Complaining now is like bitching in November that it's probably going to rain next fourth of July.

[GomesBeard]

I don't understand why pitching needed to be addressed first. I fully expect the FO to address it. You address your needs as they come available to be addressed. I agree SP wins championships. Let's see what they do about it before spewing vitriolic posts. If they sh!t the bed on pitching, I'll be right beside you complaining. Complaining now is like bitching in November that it's probably going to rain next fourth of July.

 

So you're saying I need a rain date for my July 4th barbecue in 2015?

[User Name]

I don't understand why pitching needed to be addressed first. I fully expect the FO to address it. You address your needs as they come available to be addressed. I agree SP wins championships. Let's see what they do about it before spewing vitriolic posts. If they sh!t the bed on pitching, I'll be right beside you complaining. Complaining now is like bitching in November that it's probably going to rain next fourth of July.

 

Not even the ignore option can save me from his constant whining. Goddamn.

[BSN07]

We'll see BSN. But talk is cheap and we know some of our front office are a pack of ******** artists. I'll believe it when I see it and right now I think getting those two was a big mistake without addressing our pitching needs first. STARTING PITCHING WIN CHAMPUIONSHIPS!!!!! and right now we have crapola in that regard.

 

omg Fred c'mon.. you really can't think the team made these moves, created depth and assets and plans to do absolutely nothing to the P? In this worst case scenario, yes I would be right there pounding my head and shaking my fist at what the hell the FO is doing. That scenario is highly unlikely imo and you are overreacting per usual.

 

Again the SP market is at a stand still with Boras and his circus and Lester visiting multiple teams because the team wasn't willing to offer an insane sign now deal. As soon as Lester and Boras sign the trade market for SP will open up and we will get a better idea what the team is gonna do. Patience man, it's November.

[Spudboy]

I bet that the Yankees will sign Scherzer or Lester or even both.

 

I can't see the Yankees having total faith in three or four of their starters returning to form / being healthy.

 

Spending a fortune on either or both would seem the Yankee thing to do. Dead money be damned.

 

I can see it now. Certain members of this board will go wild with told you so posts!

 

So get ready! The Yankees are laying in the bushes waiting to pounce.

[St. Louis Carter]

I bet that the Yankees will sign Scherzer or Lester or even both.

 

I can't see the Yankees having total faith in three or four of their starters returning to form / being healthy.

 

Spending a fortune on either or both would seem the Yankee thing to do. Dead money be damned.

 

I can see it now. Certain members of this board will go wild with told you so posts!

 

So get ready! The Yankees are laying in the bushes waiting to pounce.

You better believe it, Man! You guys just sent a double barreled salvo across their bow. My Yankee fan buddy is foaming at the mouth right now!

[seabeachfred]

Not even the ignore option can save me from his constant whining. Goddamn.

 

Then don't read my post stupid.....and you won't have that trouble......and if you don't respond to anything I write I will NOT respond to anything you write. What could be simpler....except you want to respond and take me on. So this will continue until you back off mr. #$%^ for brains.

[seabeachfred]

omg Fred c'mon.. you really can't think the team made these moves, created depth and assets and plans to do absolutely nothing to the P? In this worst case scenario, yes I would be right there pounding my head and shaking my fist at what the hell the FO is doing. That scenario is highly unlikely imo and you are overreacting per usual.

 

Again the SP market is at a stand still with Boras and his circus and Lester visiting multiple teams because the team wasn't willing to offer an insane sign now deal. As soon as Lester and Boras sign the trade market for SP will open up and we will get a better idea what the team is gonna do. Patience man, it's November.

 

BSN. You keep mentioning Boras.....Who is he representing anyway? Scherzer or Hamels or Cueto? Please don't tell me he is now representing Lester. For the record, I can't see the Red Sox being that dense and ignoring their pitching but I do have a fear that we may get out-snookered and wind up with pitchers like Masterson, Hummel, Santana and McCarthy types which will make winning next season impossible. I still think if the Red Sox just tell Lester they want him and make him an offer without a bunch of ******** on the sides we may be able to get this done sooner rather than risk it later. BTW, Peter Gammons said today he feels the Red Sox will get Lester. To me that's the kiss of death because that ham-baloney hasn't been right about anything the past few years.

[seabeachfred]

I bet that the Yankees will sign Scherzer or Lester or even both.

 

I can't see the Yankees having total faith in three or four of their starters returning to form / being healthy.

 

Spending a fortune on either or both would seem the Yankee thing to do. Dead money be damned.

 

I can see it now. Certain members of this board will go wild with told you so posts!

 

So get ready! The Yankees are laying in the bushes waiting to pounce.

 

Good warning Spud and it would be wise for Cherington to take heed. It wouldn't be the first time we got ambushed by the Yankees, and this board will be on fire if that happens. The bootlickers and front office acolytes will then be wise to head for the hills. Still, you have to think and believe our front office has learned some lessons from seeing the Yankees continue to pick our pockets.

[GomesBeard]

BSN. You keep mentioning Boras.....Who is he representing anyway? Scherzer or Hamels or Cueto? Please don't tell me he is now representing Lester. For the record, I can't see the Red Sox being that dense and ignoring their pitching but I do have a fear that we may get out-snookered and wind up with pitchers like Masterson, Hummel, Santana and McCarthy types which will make winning next season impossible. I still think if the Red Sox just tell Lester they want him and make him an offer without a bunch of ******** on the sides we may be able to get this done sooner rather than risk it later. BTW, Peter Gammons said today he feels the Red Sox will get Lester. To me that's the kiss of death because that ham-baloney hasn't been right about anything the past few years.

 

Actually, if you're referring to his spot on WFAN with The Pope, he said that he felt Lester would end up with the Cubs.... That was at the end of the spot, where he did a 'quick hitter' with Francesa on a series of questions....