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The bright sport is that they fought hard from being down by a lot of runs early in the game and almost came back. They scrapped like the 2013 team and didn't give up, but Buch dug too deep a hole for us. He has been a big diappointment thus far in 2014.
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This is on Buchholz. When your team scores six, you should win

 

I think he has 1 more start before the DL. He's just infuriating. He's also a come across as a douche.

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The bright sport is that they fought hard from being down by a lot of runs early in the game and almost came back. They scrapped like the 2013 team and didn't give up, but Buch dug too deep a hole for us. He has been a big diappointment thus far in 2014.

 

I just can't understand why they leave starters in so long these days to take teams out of games. It's another one of those pitch count consequences. They just have to throw a certain no. of pitches, no matter how much they suck that day. No pitcher has his stuff every start.

If a guy doesn't have it, replace him. Buchholz was throwing mediocre stuff right down the middle of the plate. You can imagine how the fielders feel.

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I just can't understand why they leave starters in so long these days to take teams out of games. It's another one of those pitch count consequences. They just have to throw a certain no. of pitches, no matter how much they suck that day. No pitcher has his stuff every start.

 

Wrong as usual. Buchholz was pulled after only 55 pitches so how does that have anything to do with a pitch count?

 

The reason managers don't hook starters who are struggling right away is so they won't burn out their bullpens.

 

Pretty simple concept really.

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Wrong as usual. Buchholz was pulled after only 55 pitches so how does that have anything to do with a pitch count?

 

The reason managers don't hook starters who are struggling right away is so they won't burn out their bullpens.

 

Pretty simple concept really.

There are 7 guys in the bullpen. That should be enough to handle the load. Capuano has ben a starter so going 3 or 4 inning a couple of times a week shouldn't be a problem. He pitched yesterday. Badenhop is the other long man. He could have gone to him earlier. I don't see the bullpen issue. You can't let games get out of hand when the starter is throwing BP. I think the tendency to leave starters in for 6-7 runs is ridiculous.
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There are 7 guys in the bullpen. That should be enough to handle the load. Capuano has ben a starter so going 3 or 4 inning a couple of times a week shouldn't be a problem. He pitched yesterday. Badenhop is the other long man. He could have gone to him earlier. I don't see the bullpen issue. You can't let games get out of hand when the starter is throwing BP. I think the tendency to leave starters in for 6-7 runs is ridiculous.

 

You always know when a man is telling a lie. How did you acquire this magical power?

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You always know when a man is telling a lie. How did you acquire this magical power?
I just can't defend stupidity which is rampant among baseball managers. Edited by a700hitter
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I just can't defend stupidity which is rampant among baseball managers.

 

If a manager burned out his bullpen you'd say he was twice as stupid. Don't you think bullpens can get burned out if they're just used indiscriminately?

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There are 7 guys in the bullpen. That should be enough to handle the load. Capuano has ben a starter so going 3 or 4 inning a couple of times a week shouldn't be a problem. He pitched yesterday. Badenhop is the other long man. He could have gone to him earlier. I don't see the bullpen issue. You can't let games get out of hand when the starter is throwing BP. I think the tendency to leave starters in for 6-7 runs is ridiculous.

 

Sure, there are 7 guys in the pen. But you're not going to use Uehara, Tazawa or Mujica before the 8th inning normally. So now you have 4 guys to choose from. And the 4 guys you have to choose from, generally speaking, are middle or long relievers because they aren't that good. So there's no guarantee if you bring one of them in in the 3rd inning that they won't get lit up too. Then you have to bring in the next guy.

 

Our next day off isn't until next Monday and we're playing the Yanks the next 3 days. Do we want to burn up Capuano today and have him not available for several days?

 

When the starter gets knocked out early the manager is just in a bad spot. It's got nothing to do with how smart he is. Blame it on lack of complete games and pitch counts/inning counts and the 25-man roster, but it's not an easy job managing the bullpen now.

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If a manager burned out his bullpen you'd say he was twice as stupid. Don't you think bullpens can get burned out if they're just used indiscriminately?
I think you have long men to go multiple innings more than once a week. I don't believe in spotting 6 or 7 run leads before changing the starter, so no, I would not criticize the manager for giving Buch the hook today if he replaced him after the 5th consecutive hit to start the inning with Adam Jones coming to bat. If Capuano or Badenhop get burned out, we have Workman and others to step up in that role. Our offense has been struggling. Spotting 6 or 7 runs early is too much. I'd rather burn out one of those guys than to leave a starter out there to take a beating when he has subpar stuff. I think that is an injury risk.
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Sure, there are 7 guys in the pen. But you're not going to use Uehara, Tazawa or Mujica before the 8th inning normally. So now you have 4 guys to choose from. And the 4 guys you have to choose from, generally speaking, are middle or long relievers because they aren't that good. So there's no guarantee if you bring one of them in in the 3rd inning that they won't get lit up too. Then you have to bring in the next guy.

 

Our next day off isn't until next Monday and we're playing the Yanks the next 3 days. Do we want to burn up Capuano today and have him not available for several days?

 

When the starter gets knocked out early the manager is just in a bad spot. It's got nothing to do with how smart he is. Blame it on lack of complete games and pitch counts/inning counts and the 25-man roster, but it's not an easy job managing the bullpen now.

Get Workman on the Pawtuckett shuttle if the load becomes too much for Capuano or Badenhop. Middle relievers are cannon fodder as far as I am concerned.
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Get Workman on the Pawtuckett shuttle if the load becomes too much for Capuano or Badenhop. Middle relievers are cannon fodder as far as I am concerned.

 

Capuano has been pretty much untouchable out of the bullpen this year. I know he has been a mediocre starter in the past, but he has been a pretty good reliever if you ask me.

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