2014 Roster Projections

[marklmw]

So many lost steak dinners.

 

I do not remember betting any steak dinners on Cano signing with Seattle but no matter I am one happy Gringo right now.

[marklmw]

MLBTR reports that Napoli has received an offer from a team that the Sox need to match or exceed, otherwise he will sign with said team.

 

Good for Nap's ... I am glad that he is allowing the Sox FO to match. He might even have a better season next year.

[marklmw]

Red Sox when they tried to follow the Yankee model: 0 championships in 86 years.

 

Red Sox when they stuck to a strategy and stopped playing "gotcha" with the Yankees: 3 championships with 10 years.

 

What you present is an exercise in poor logical thinking mark, specially at the current juncture, when the Red Sox are CLEARLY the better team and are coming off a WS

 

UN ... signing Crawford was the NY way and I was dead against it and I was right .... that was NY style overkill. To complete in the AL East you have to have the horses one way or another. I am very happy today ... very happy .... Cano is going to Seattle and Granderson to the Mets. Looks like Tanaka is staying put in Japan and Napoli agreed to let the Sox FO match his best offer. I am thinking repeat now ... my ranting against the Yankees is paying off big time.

[dupree]

I wonder what the offer is that Napoli has? I hope if it is for 4yrs the Sox match it. I think if it was 3yrs it wouldnt be a hard thought, but if its 4yrs Ben might let Nap walk. Which i hope is not the case.

[marklmw]

What would Boston have to give up for Stanton and would he be worth it?

[User Name]

You are almost logical ... Being better than the Yankees does not put a limit the Sox on how much better they can be. When you look at the history for winning the AL East the Yankees have set the standard have they not?

 

What does that have to do with the team the Yankees are fielding right now? If someone's being illogical, it's you. He's 100% right. Unless the Yankees make massive improvements to both their offense and pitching staff, the only standard they're setting is for teams with record-setting payrolls finishing in fourth place.

[dupree]

What would Boston have to give up for Stanton and would he be worth it?

If it would be just prospects that the Sox could send it may be

 

The Sox FO say just take any 5 players you want but not Henry Owens and Garin Ceccihi.

 

Barnes, Ranuado, Betts, Swihart, and RDLR to the Marlins for Stanton + PTBNL to the Sox

 

If thats what could land Stanton id hope they would do it. They have the prospects to land him its just a matter if the Marlins move him this winter.

[marklmw]

If it would be just prospects that the Sox could send it may be

 

The Sox FO say just take any 5 players you want but not Henry Owens and Garin Ceccihi.

 

Barnes, Ranuado, Betts, Swihart, and RDLR to the Marlins for Stanton + PTBNL to the Sox

 

If thats what could land Stanton id hope they would do it. They have the prospects to land him its just a matter if the Marlins move him this winter.

 

Why 5? for Stanton and PTBNL ... why not 4 for Stanton or why not Dempster and 3 and the Sox can eat 3M of Dempster. Stanton would give us a lot of Flexibility in the OF and he would be adding a lot of power for the long term. If the Sox were to make a Deal for Stanton this is where a long term extension would make sense.

[Palodios]

Stanton again? Really? Really?

[marklmw]

Stanton again? Really? Really?

 

Yeah ... I have not heard from Dupree in a while.

[dupree]

Yeah ... I have not heard from Dupree in a while.

Ive been busy, its cattle moving season and we have been shipping a lot of cattle and will be over the next few weeks.

 

But mark I think 5 is the magic # that the League Office will approve. And as far as a PTBNL they always have that in most trades these days just thought id throw one in there.

 

I think Kemp is more in play for the Sox than Stanton is tho. And if healthy i dont think we could go wrong with either of them.

 

Im just happy to see Cano gone from the Yankees and the media trying to figure out what they will do now that hes gone.

[marklmw]

I brought up Stanton because if the Sox should not sign Napoli or Drew they will have 3 top compensation picks along with their own top 2 picks means 5 quality picks. Not all of the Sox prospects from AA & AAA will have a place on the Sox Majors team. Stanton just turned 24 ... trading and signing him to his first big deal ... 140M / 10 would be hard for him to pass on and it will take him through age 33. This is when a long term contract could make a lot of sense. The guy is 6'6" ... we could keep him healthy at 1B but his fielding value lies in the fact that he has experience playing RF. Edited December 6, 2013 by marklmw

[marklmw]

Ive been busy, its cattle moving season and we have been shipping a lot of cattle and will be over the next few weeks.

 

But mark I think 5 is the magic # that the League Office will approve. And as far as a PTBNL they always have that in most trades these days just thought id throw one in there.

 

I think Kemp is more in play for the Sox than Stanton is tho. And if healthy i dont think we could go wrong with either of them.

 

Im just happy to see Cano gone from the Yankees and the media trying to figure out what they will do now that hes gone.

 

I am very happy to see Cano gone from the Yankees ... the Yankees improved this off season by adding Ellsbury and McCann but they took a huge step backwards by losing Cano.

[dupree]

I am very happy to see Cano gone from the Yankees ... the Yankees improved this off season by adding Ellsbury and McCann but they took a huge step backwards by losing Cano.

I agree. The lose of Cano is a big blow but i think they may be able to over come that lose if they can keep the rest of the team healthy and add another bat. But one thing i dont think they can overcome is the lack of starting pitching. I could see them getting in on Garza. CC and Kuroda just aint gonna cut it in the AL East by themselves.

[BornToRun]

I think Stanton is kind of a pointless discussion now.

 

Miami is adamant that he isn't getting moved and with the injury history and the price it'd cost to acquire him, I'm not sure I'd want to land him.

[marklmw]

I agree. The lose of Cano is a big blow but i think they may be able to over come that lose if they can keep the rest of the team healthy and add another bat. But one thing i dont think they can overcome is the lack of starting pitching. I could see them getting in on Garza. CC and Kuroda just aint gonna cut it in the AL East by themselves.

 

They really need Garza and 1 more ... since there is not much out there it could lead to them having to overpay for both FA pitchers.

[BornToRun]

I am very happy to see Cano gone from the Yankees ... the Yankees improved this off season by adding Ellsbury and McCann but they took a huge step backwards by losing Cano.

 

What I don't get is why they sign McCann, give ridiculous money to Ells, and then they decide to act fiscally responsible and play hardball with a guy who's one of the top 5 hitters on the planet.

 

You're the f***ing Yankees, at least go up to 8/200. I don't see the point in them getting stupid with Ellsbury and then being stingy with cano. It just doesn't make sense, Ellsbury signifies a willingness to go overboard, why stop at that when that door's already been opened?

[dupree]

They really need Garza and 1 more ... since there is not much out there it could lead to them having to overpay for both FA pitchers.

And at the price starting pitchers are getting paid these days that could put the Yankees in a place where they have to overpay big time and force them to not have the flexibility to acquire another bat. And also what are they gonna do about the left side of their infield. Arod up in the air will he play or not and will Jeter be healthy. So they have more problems and needs than most of the media sources are talking about.

[marklmw]

I think Stanton is kind of a pointless discussion now.

 

Miami is adamant that he isn't getting moved and with the injury history and the price it'd cost to acquire him, I'm not sure I'd want to land him.

 

Stanton is high risk and higher reward. It is like signing a young Manny before his prime. Sox do have more players in the pipeline that they will need to leverage one way or another. Remember, the following players are good for the next 5 years: Pedey, Bogaerts, WMB, JBJ, Vasquez = that is 5 of the 8 positions. Adding Stanton would make it 6 of 8. We also have Cechini and Brentz who both project well going forward. Should the Sox extend Lester and Buchholz and Owens meets his projections we will have plenty of pitching talent as well. Could be the right time to make a bold move for Stanton. Just saying.

[marklmw]

And at the price starting pitchers are getting paid these days that could put the Yankees in a place where they have to overpay big time and force them to not have the flexibility to acquire another bat. And also what are they gonna do about the left side of their infield. Arod up in the air will he play or not and will Jeter be healthy. So they have more problems and needs than most of the media sources are talking about.

 

True dat!

[marklmw]

What I don't get is why they sign McCann, give ridiculous money to Ells, and then they decide to act fiscally responsible and play hardball with a guy who's one of the top 5 hitters on the planet.

 

You're the f***ing Yankees, at least go up to 8/200. I don't see the point in them getting stupid with Ellsbury and then being stingy with cano. It just doesn't make sense, Ellsbury signifies a willingness to go overboard, why stop at that when that door's already been opened?

 

Yankee's messed up ... they saw Jacoby as the spark-plug to the Sox success. They already had Gardner ... but do not count Jacoby out ... he is a stud athlete and will do some good things in NY.

[redsoxrules]

Your obsessed with Ellsbury

[Bellhorn04]

MLBTR reports that Napoli has received an offer from a team that the Sox need to match or exceed, otherwise he will sign with said team.

 

I sense that we're getting caught in the squeeze on this one. The offer Naps has is probably too high for Benny's liking methinks.

[marklmw]

I think Stanton is kind of a pointless discussion now.

 

Miami is adamant that he isn't getting moved and with the injury history and the price it'd cost to acquire him, I'm not sure I'd want to land him.

 

Never say never ... when you look at the top 100 prospects list in reality each club should have 3.3 players on the list. The Sox dominate with 8 players but there are not any players on the list coming close to what Stanton gives you. If the top 100 list were revised and Staton were on the list along with 3 other Sox players instead of the 8 they have now IMO the Sox would be better off. Could Miami really turn down an offer where they can add 5 top club controlled prospects for 1 player who has battled some injuries. No matter how good Staton is it matters little without the necessary complimentary players around him. You can always pitch around him.

[Bellhorn04]

What I don't get is why they sign McCann, give ridiculous money to Ells, and then they decide to act fiscally responsible and play hardball with a guy who's one of the top 5 hitters on the planet.

 

You're the f***ing Yankees, at least go up to 8/200. I don't see the point in them getting stupid with Ellsbury and then being stingy with cano. It just doesn't make sense, Ellsbury signifies a willingness to go overboard, why stop at that when that door's already been opened?

 

Yeah, I'm not seeing a coherent plan there. More like chickens with heads cut off.

[marklmw]

Your obsessed with Ellsbury

I am over the loss of Elsbury now that the Spankmes lost Cano.

[RedSoxNC84]

I am over the loss of Elsbury now that the Spankmes lost Cano.

 

Right now Kelly Johnson is their 2b. LOL

[marklmw]

Right now Kelly Johnson is their 2b. LOL

 

That's a loss of about 4-5 games alone.

[RedSoxNC84]

That's a loss of about 4-5 games alone.

 

Another time I am thankful for Ben. He wouldn't let pedroia go to the mariners and then start Kelly Johnson

[Bellhorn04]

Hal probably had to bind and gag Hank in the basement to stop his terrible cries of 'C'mon let's spend like Daddy would!'