2013 Yankees in-game thread

[SoxFanForsyth]

Oh I knew the offense was smoke and mirrors. It had held out well until we got Grandy back. But man, it's fallen off a cliff. We should get Tex and Youk back today.

 

Not gonna help much.

[jacksonianmarch]

That is an asinine comment. We rank 17th in baseball with a .700OPS out of 3b with a grand total of 4 HR. 2 of those HR were hit by Youkilis, and his .769OPS greatly skews the rest of the s*** that has been playing at that position. I doubt Youk gets back to his glory days where he hits .300 with 30 bombs and an OPS over .900. But he should be a good bet to be at least a .750OPS player or higher. That's a giant improvement.

 

And while you guys continue to overlook the fact that Overbay has performed above expectations, the aggregate at 1b is completely abysmal. We are 25th in baseball with a .700OPS from 1b as well. Tex, whether he be in decline or not, will OPS around or above .800 when the season is over. Both of them will be marked improvements over what we currently have provided they can stay healthy from here on out.

[User Name]

First correcting the fact that Youkilis has never hit 30 bombs in his career.

 

Second, the point isn't IF they can help (of course they can, and will), it's how much they can help. Texeira is a notoriously slow starter coming off significant injury. Youk isn't the hitter he used to be. Even with their return, the Yankee lineup is full of holes, question marks and health problems.

 

If they were both coming back to the Red Sox lineup, these are facts you would not overlook. "Take off the rose colored glasses".

[jacksonianmarch]

You apparently didn't read my point. I don't care if Tex is a slow starter, he should be counted on for an OPS around .800, which is a big time improvement. Youkilis isn't the hitter he used to be, exactly what I said. But he should be counted on for an OPS of around or above .750. Both are marked improvements over the .700 aggregate we have at these two "power" positions

[Standing Room]

Oh I knew the offense was smoke and mirrors. It had held out well until we got Grandy back. But man, it's fallen off a cliff. We should get Tex and Youk back today.

 

Yet, you acted as if the Red Sox were the smoke and mirrors team. You were dead wrong and your backtracking is delicious.

 

The point I used statistics to demonstrate was that the Red Sox would probably be back in first place not only because their offense was better, but they were also outpitching the Yankees and playing better defense. I don't see how Teixeira and Youkilis will change any of that. Teixeira and Youkilis aren't increasing the team wOBA by .030 points. Teixeira and Overbay are both very good defensively, Youkilis is much worse than Adams. Are you expecting Teixeira or Youkilis to pitch?

[jacksonianmarch]

Yet, you acted as if the Red Sox were the smoke and mirrors team. You were dead wrong and your backtracking is delicious.

 

The point I used statistics to demonstrate was that the Red Sox would probably be back in first place not only because their offense was better, but they were also outpitching the Yankees and playing better defense. I don't see how Teixeira and Youkilis will change any of that. Teixeira and Youkilis aren't increasing the team wOBA by .030 points. Teixeira and Overbay are both very good defensively, Youkilis is much worse than Adams. Are you expecting Teixeira or Youkilis to pitch?

 

I'm expecting Andy Pettitte to pitch, which is what he's doing next week. We've lost 5 in a row, and in only 2 of those games our pitching was at fault (Phelps and CC). The other 3 games the opponents scored 3 runs on our starters total. And the guys who gave up the leads were KRob and Mariano, two guys who aren't going to do that a whole lot on the yr. It was a bad stretch, but it ends tonight

[User Name]

You apparently didn't read my point. I don't care if Tex is a slow starter, he should be counted on for an OPS around .800, which is a big time improvement. Youkilis isn't the hitter he used to be, exactly what I said. But he should be counted on for an OPS of around or above .750. Both are marked improvements over the .700 aggregate we have at these two "power" positions

 

I read your post and got your point. I just think it's nonsense, and you apparently have reading comprehension problems.

 

Let me put it in simpler terms: They will help the lineup, but the impact will likely not be as big as you're making it out to be because of holes in other positions, other players regressing, and the regression Tex and Youkilis are suffering themselves.

 

If the Yankees are middle of the pack in OPS right now, Tex and Youk won't move them from there, even with the improvement.

[SoxFanForsyth]

That is an asinine comment. We rank 17th in baseball with a .700OPS out of 3b with a grand total of 4 HR. 2 of those HR were hit by Youkilis, and his .769OPS greatly skews the rest of the s*** that has been playing at that position. I doubt Youk gets back to his glory days where he hits .300 with 30 bombs and an OPS over .900. But he should be a good bet to be at least a .750OPS player or higher. That's a giant improvement.

 

And while you guys continue to overlook the fact that Overbay has performed above expectations, the aggregate at 1b is completely abysmal. We are 25th in baseball with a .700OPS from 1b as well. Tex, whether he be in decline or not, will OPS around or above .800 when the season is over. Both of them will be marked improvements over what we currently have provided they can stay healthy from here on out.

 

Overbay has a .774 OPS in May. To say you're going to get some kind of a game-changing upgrade from Mark Teixeira (.807 OPS last year, and now coming off a wrist injury) is as asinine as it gets. You play this off as though suddenly you're getting Miguel Cabrera after having Pokey Reese play first base.

 

As for third base, first off, Youkilis is not even close to an everyday player anymore. Just look at what happened when you tried to play him there everyday for two weeks. He is as injury prone a player as there is in baseball. And when he's healthy, he's a .750-.770 OPS guy. He's not a game changer.

[jacksonianmarch]

I read your post and got your point. I just think it's nonsense, and you apparently have reading comprehension problems.

 

Let me put it in simpler terms: They will help the lineup, but the impact will likely not be as big as you're making it out to be because of holes in other positions, other players regressing, and the regression Tex and Youkilis are suffering themselves.

 

If the Yankees are middle of the pack in OPS right now, Tex and Youk won't move them from there, even with the improvement.

 

That is statistically ignorant. If you have a position that you are currently OPS'ing .700 at, and you place a player who is a good bet to OPS .800, the aggregate increases. Same with 3b. I know you are looking at overall, but when you replace the s*** parts with better parts, the whole improves. I don't see how your comment makes any sense at all unless Youk and Tex come in and continue at the .700OPS pace set at both positions.

[User Name]

That is statistically ignorant. If you have a position that you are currently OPS'ing .700 at, and you place a player who is a good bet to OPS .800, the aggregate increases. Same with 3b. I know you are looking at overall, but when you replace the s*** parts with better parts, the whole improves. I don't see how your comment makes any sense at all unless Youk and Tex come in and continue at the .700OPS pace set at both positions.

 

The problem here is you are assuming both players will contribute an aggregate OPS above .800. History suggests that is unlikely. Youkilis is a mid-700 OPS hitter right now, and with the trend of regression from Texeira the last five seasons, and coming off a wrist injury, he likely is as well.

 

I don't think you should be talking about statistical ignorance while at the same time being a homer and ignoring the statistical evidence being presented.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I'm expecting Andy Pettitte to pitch, which is what he's doing next week. We've lost 5 in a row, and in only 2 of those games our pitching was at fault (Phelps and CC). The other 3 games the opponents scored 3 runs on our starters total. And the guys who gave up the leads were KRob and Mariano, two guys who aren't going to do that a whole lot on the yr. It was a bad stretch, but it ends tonight

 

lol.

[User Name]

Jacko also seems to forget that Vernon Wells and Travis Hafner have stopped drinking from the youth fountain.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Yankees wRC+ is 89.

 

Adding wrist injured Tex and declining Youkilis isn't going to make this team a league average wOBA team. Not even close. They'll push to a 92-94 wRC+, but that's about it.

 

Did you forget that you still have Gardner (102 wRC+), Wells (100 wRC+), Ichiro (61 wRC+), Brignac (-84 wRC+), Stewart (75 wRC+)/Romine (-35 wRC+) starting for you??

 

And did you forget your pitching staff has not been very good at all? No starter has an xFIP under 3.70. Kuroda has been good but he's living off a .244 BABIP and his ERA (2.39) is outrageously under his xFIP (3.93).

 

That said, I'm very much looking forward to Buch vs Kuroda on Sunday. That should be an awesome game.

 

Oh and as a side note, I know the Yanks have struggled vs LHP, and that's where Tex and Youk will help, but they have been really bad vs RHP (.733 OPS). Adding Tex and Youk does not help them vs RHP at all, which represents ~60-65% of their games.

[Standing Room]

I'm expecting Andy Pettitte to pitch, which is what he's doing next week. We've lost 5 in a row, and in only 2 of those games our pitching was at fault (Phelps and CC). The other 3 games the opponents scored 3 runs on our starters total. And the guys who gave up the leads were KRob and Mariano, two guys who aren't going to do that a whole lot on the yr. It was a bad stretch, but it ends tonight

 

So you're expecting the Yankees to get better because Andy Pettitte (3.83 ERA) will be replacing Vidal Nuno (2.25 ERA) in the rotation? You're really grasping at straws here bud.

 

The Yankees are fortunate to have the record they have. Entering play yesterday, they were second to last in the division in run differential, they weren't going to win every one run game they played all year.

 

How well do you think they'll do against the Red Sox? Think they'll take two of three? Think they'll sweep?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Jacko also thought the Yankees were going to roll through the Mets. How did that work out for you sir? Every time he says something good, the opposite happens. He expected a s***** team in April, and they did really good.

[italstallianion]

I'm still never that confident when we're playing the Yankees since both teams play each other tough, but I'd hope we can at least win the series.

[Thunder]

This thread should be closed for three days. Make jacko, Divinity and y228 post in our GT.

[User Name]

First off, easy there with Y228. He's the rarest species in the world: A Yankee fan who is not a total douche.

 

Second, that idea could very easily backfire.

[italstallianion]

I'd suggest the opposite. Keep them separate but equal. (No offense RSFFL)

 

Except for Y228 who can sleep with my daughter if I had one.

[User Name]

And he probably wouldn't bang her because you're his buddy and he respects your daughter

[italstallianion]

And he probably wouldn't bang her because you're his buddy and he respects your daughter

 

 

He'd probably take her out to dinner and pay for it himself and not take advantage of her, and then call me up and ask me if he can hold her hand.

 

 

Haha j/k Y228 it's all good. The point is you're one of us. Except for the whole Yankee fan part.

 

Roll Tide.

[Standing Room]

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SOX WIN! BRUINS WIN! Good day to be a Bostonian.

[User Name]

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Tex and Youk to the rescue!

[Standing Room]

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Tex and Youk to the rescue!

 

Just like Jackass said, it would be a battle of the bullpens and the Yankees would win.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Tex and Youk were so helpful in their return. I bet Hughes is fellating them so hard right now.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Lets take a look at how good Tex and Youk have done, since Jacko said they'd put in work shall we? Together they have put together an AMAZING display of

 

.....how to not hit the ball.

 

2 for 14, 10 K, 1 RBI. MY GOODNESS!!! Those numbers just scream FEAR US!

[Jasonbay44]

You guys are going to jinx this. Tex and Youk are both going yard tonight.

[italstallianion]

I have a feeling that this is going to be a really contentious season in the respective gamethreads.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Kuroda is tough. Hope some of that offense is still alive and Buchholz pitches good enough for a win.

[Standing Room]

NEW YORK

Baseball people enjoy telling stories about Dustin Pedroia’s bravado. And this one might rank near the top.

 

Celebrities enjoy going to games, too. They just get better seats. See the rich and famous at the ballpark.

On Friday night, as the Red Sox took batting practice at Yankee Stadium, Pedroia noticed Hall of Famer Reggie Jackson standing behind the batting cage.

 

The Red Sox second baseman strode over to Jackson and proclaimed, “Barry Bonds, Dustin Pedroia and Reggie Jackson, the top three players in Arizona State history.”

 

Someone asked Pedroia how he would rank the three. He immediately shot back, “Kind of a coin flip between the first two,” referring to Bonds and himself – and not Jackson.

 

Now, Jackson has never been one to lack confidence, and during his days with the Yankees even was quoted as saying, “I’m the straw that stirs the drink.” But Pedroia effectively browbeat him into submission.

 

Rather than challenge Pedroia, Jackson replied, almost meekly, “I’m just happy to be in the top five.”