The Jacoby Ellsbury trade extravaganza thread

[Behindenemylines]

It would be sweet if De LaRosa worked out and was a top of the rotation SP that threw heat. Add him to Barnes and possibly Webster and those are some good young arms. I wish they were all ready this year then we wouldn't have to over pay for a SP. If they all were ready you would think one of the three would have a solid spring and be the number 5.

[a700hitter]

It would be sweet if De LaRosa worked out and was a top of the rotation SP that threw heat. Add him to Barnes and possibly Webster and those are some good young arms. I wish they were all ready this year then we wouldn't have to over pay for a SP. If they all were ready you would think one of the three would have a solid spring and be the number 5.

... And it would be great if we could pick up Joe Hardy on a 1 year contract with the Devil.

[Palodios]

Now seems like the perfect time for the Red Sox to re-open talks with the Rangers about Ellsbury. It seems like their lineup has been decimated-- Hamiltion, Young, Napoli are all gone. Word is, Justin Upton is no longer available. Choo definitely is no longer available. Swisher and Bourn are probably going to cost outrageous money. The cost for RA Dickey is going to be two elite prospects.

 

They need a big acquisition, and Ellsbury has the highest ceiling of any of the outfielders available.

[BSN07]

Now seems like the perfect time for the Red Sox to re-open talks with the Rangers about Ellsbury. It seems like their lineup has been decimated-- Hamiltion, Young, Napoli are all gone. Word is, Justin Upton is no longer available. Choo definitely is no longer available. Swisher and Bourn are probably going to cost outrageous money. The cost for RA Dickey is going to be two elite prospects.

 

They need a big acquisition, and Ellsbury has the highest ceiling of any of the outfielders available.

 

They don't need him, they have Martin on a ML deal waiting in AAA and he's supposed to be the in house replacement. I've read they might be in on Bourn too. They may have interest in Ells, but I don't think it will be enough to get anyone of note.

[User Name]

I think they'll trade Andrus in a Justin Upton package and then sign Michael Bourn to lead off.

[BSN07]

I think they'll trade Andrus in a Justin Upton package and then sign Michael Bourn to lead off.

 

Ya I never got why they just didn't offer Andrus + for Upton. He's only got one year left and they have a promising player to replace him. It seems pretty simple right? Bourn looks to be a fit as well.

[SoxSport]

Ells will be traded. It's a question of when. Looks like they will shoot for max value, which means by mid season next year.

[BSN07]

Atlanta is rumored to be looking to trade for Fowler. Means they still might be n the market for a CF and move Upron to LF. Both Ells and Fowler are on the verge of free agency. Fowler would probably be easier to re-sign, but if Atlanta is dangling Delgado or Teheran the Sox should look into it.

[rjortiz]

Ells will be traded. It's a question of when. Looks like they will shoot for max value, which means by mid season next year.

 

His greatest value is now, because he'll net a draft pick for the team that trades for him.

[NZSox]

Is it unrealistic to think we might land an ace with Ells + Salty + Prospect?

[Plumpamania]

Probably.

[example1]

Is it unrealistic to think we might land an ace with Ells + Salty + Prospect?

 

It is unrealistic to think we might land an ace period.

 

Perhaps we should really agree to some common terms here. To me, "ace" is reserved for those #1 starters who stand out above the rest. You may see it differently. So, that means a pitcher who would make your team favorites regardless of who is on the mound for the other team, unless that team has an "ace" as well--in which case it is merely a wash.

[BSN07]

The only Ace we could get is a prospect with front line potential. Teheran has that.

[NZSox]

It is unrealistic to think we might land an ace period.

 

Perhaps we should really agree to some common terms here. To me, "ace" is reserved for those #1 starters who stand out above the rest. You may see it differently. So, that means a pitcher who would make your team favorites regardless of who is on the mound for the other team, unless that team has an "ace" as well--in which case it is merely a wash.

 

In this situation I use 'Ace' for someone who would come in and be our #1. So essentially, they need to be a better, more consistent pitcher than Lester who can handle the demands of the AL East.

 

I do get your definition though. I kind of like the idea of reserving the term for guys like Verlander, Halladay, King Felix etc.

[TutGadol]

Atlanta is rumored to be looking to trade for Fowler. Means they still might be n the market for a CF and move Upron to LF. Both Ells and Fowler are on the verge of free agency. Fowler would probably be easier to re-sign, but if Atlanta is dangling Delgado or Teheran the Sox should look into it.

 

If anything they'll move Fowler to LF, he's been horrendous at center and BJ is a pretty good fielder.

[Behindenemylines]

Ellsbury probably staying the season with the Sox. No team is going to give equal value for him since it is his walk year and Borus is his agent. Borus will take him to FA and look for big $$$ and length. The Sox will hopefully get a big year out of him at least. If they weren't going to resign him they probably should have moved him after his big 2011 season when they probably could have gotten some top prospects.

[redsoxfan3]

Ellsbury probably staying the season with the Sox. No team is going to give equal value for him since it is his walk year and Borus is his agent. Borus will take him to FA and look for big $$$ and length. The Sox will hopefully get a big year out of him at least. If they weren't going to resign him they probably should have moved him after his big 2011 season when they probably could have gotten some top prospects.

 

That is hard to do though. It is always hard to trade someone that had an MVP season with two years left on his contract. Looking back now, it is easy to say they should have done this and that. You are right in saying that he will probably hit the FA market, especially with Boras as his agent. I think a potential big season out of Jacoby is a lot better than anything we would get back in return for him. If he has a solid first half and we are not in contention, then maybe we should look to see what we could get out of him then. The only problem with that is other teams might require him to sign an extension. We would not get a lot out of him for a half year left on his contract.

[Palodios]

The only Ace we could get is a prospect with front line potential. Teheran has that.

 

Santana, Santana, Santana.

 

Didn't work that time either:lol:

[SoxSport]

Ells is harder to deal because Boras is his agent, and not all teams will deal with him. They'll find a taker by mid-season next year if Ells comes back close to form.

[BSN07]

Santana, Santana, Santana.

 

Didn't work that time either:lol:

 

Hmm ya I had forgotten about Santana. They have the money to eat that contract. I wouldn't be against it as long as the B's and De la Rosa aren't involved.

[a700hitter]

Hmm ya I had forgotten about Santana. They have the money to eat that contract. I wouldn't be against it as long as the B's and De la Rosa aren't involved.

If they only want De Ls Rosa, stuff him in a Fed Ex box so he gets there before Christmas.

[a700hitter]

Hmm ya I had forgotten about Santana. They have the money to eat that contract. I wouldn't be against it as long as the B's and De la Rosa aren't involved.

If they only want De Ls Rosa, stuff him in a Fed Ex box so he gets there before Christmas.

[jung]

I would be surprised if they would just take DeLaRosa especially since they are willing to eat salary on Santana. The Sox have the trade chips to do it I would think.

[BSN07]

No thanks. Not till they see what De La Rosa has. He's probably the 2nd best SP prospect the Sox has and given he is a LHP might have a higher ceiling then Barnes.

 

If the Sox ae taking on almost all the $ they probably would only have to give up a Workman/Webster for him. Sanatana has enough? I wouldn't want to to give up top tier guys.

[jung]

If the Sox took all or most of the salary that would be a different story. I doubt the Sox will be willing to take on all that salary for Santana.