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Let's face it, Ellsbury is going to be moved for pitching. I set this thread up so we can discuss what type of deal might be made. I've heard Cliff Lee so far. What about masterson and Cabrera in a deal with the Guardians?
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Pass on Lee. He's owed a s*** ton of money so I'd rather have Halladay.

 

Ellsbury being moved for pitching seems likely at this point though. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head they should dangle him for.

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Give me Cliff Lee, all day, everyday.

 

You want a bonafide ace? You gotta pony up.

 

Going to take Ellsbury + 1 top prospect (I would think Bradley).

 

Cliff Lee is a guy who turns this team right back into a contender. Instantly.

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Give me Cliff Lee, all day, everyday.

 

You want a bonafide ace? You gotta pony up.

 

Going to take Ellsbury + 1 top prospect (I would think Bradley).

 

Cliff Lee is a guy who turns this team right back into a contender. Instantly.

 

He's owed way too much money. Philly is gonna have to eat a good size chunk before I like it. Lee is on the way out of his prime. The Red Sox should not stick themselves with paying for what Lee has done.

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I'm thinking an Ellsbury for Vargas type deal might be better.

 

Ideally I trade Lester for Myers and flip Myers+Ellsbury+++ for King Felix hahaha

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Garza. Johann. Price. Cahill. Vargas. Floyd. There are pitchers out there who are semi-available. Go get 'em.

 

Price would be the cherry on Cherries off season sundae

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Let's face it, Ellsbury is going to be moved for pitching. I set this thread up so we can discuss what type of deal might be made. I've heard Cliff Lee so far. What about masterson and Cabrera in a deal with the Guardians?

 

I did read the Guardians are talking to Kevin Youk. So it would at least be ammusingly ironic if Ells ended up sharing a locker room with Youk, lol.

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He's owed way too much money. Philly is gonna have to eat a good size chunk before I like it. Lee is on the way out of his prime. The Red Sox should not stick themselves with paying for what Lee has done.

 

Lee is still an elite, elite SP. He's good for a low 3's ERA every year.

 

For a team who is in as bad of shape as the Sox are, Vargas wouldn't get close to fixing the rotation.

 

Lee fixes it almost instantly.

 

And you have De La Rosa as your #6 man.

 

I would pull the trigger on a deal of Bradley + Ellsbury for Lee + $2-3mm annually.

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I did read the Guardians are talking to Kevin Youk. So it would at least be ammusingly ironic if Ells ended up sharing a locker room with Youk, lol.

 

Ellsbury for Masterson? Cleveland was looking for CF/leadoff

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Lee is still an elite, elite SP. He's good for a low 3's ERA every year.

 

For a team who is in as bad of shape as the Sox are, Vargas wouldn't get close to fixing the rotation.

 

Lee fixes it almost instantly.

 

And you have De La Rosa as your #6 man.

 

I would pull the trigger on a deal of Bradley + Ellsbury for Lee + $2-3mm annually.

 

Bradley and Ellsbury? No fing way. They get Ellsbury and a couple lower tier guys with that anchor of a contract. I'm in no hurry to give Philly a get out of jail free card, give them a CF, + CF of the future and the resources to go sign Hamilton. F that :lol:

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Ok I just considered the Sox have a decent amount of money coming off the books over the next couple years so maybe the $ for Lee won't be too bad. I offer Ellsbury+Brentz+Cecchini max.
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Ok I just considered the Sox have a decent amount of money coming off the books over the next couple years so maybe the $ for Lee won't be too bad. I offer Ellsbury+Brentz+Cecchini max.

 

That very well could do it, too.

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That very well could do it, too.

 

Philly gets their CF, OF prospect and possible future 3B which Cecchini has no chance of being with the Red Sox.

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It'd be Ells for Masterson+

 

Not with Jacoby only being controlled for one season and Masterson having multiple years. Likely Sox would have to Add in a Webster or Workman

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Gordon Edes ‏@GordonEdes

You can put the rumors of Ellsbury-for-Cliff Lee to rest. "Not a prayer," source said.

 

Lets wait until Bourn signs. Then we'll see how interested the Phillies would be in getting a CF, which they're desperate for.

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Not with Jacoby only being controlled for one season and Masterson having multiple years. Likely Sox would have to Add in a Webster or Workman

 

Masterson is a fifth starter. He's not worth an everyday player. Career ERA at 4.2, WHIP at 1.4. He's worth Salty, not Ellsbury.

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Gordon Edes ‏@GordonEdes

You can put the rumors of Ellsbury-for-Cliff Lee to rest. "Not a prayer," source said.

 

Lets wait until Bourn signs. Then we'll see how interested the Phillies would be in getting a CF, which they're desperate for.

 

Heard they prefer Upron.

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Not with Jacoby only being controlled for one season and Masterson having multiple years. Likely Sox would have to Add in a Webster or Workman

 

I would rage.

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Ellsbury would definitely mean a three team trade. Ellsbury to a contender for prospects, and those prospects and possibly more prospects for a pitcher. Anyone giving up an elite or high-tier pitcher doesn't want a one year rental on Ellsbury.
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Ellsbury would definitely mean a three team trade. Ellsbury to a contender for prospects, and those prospects and possibly more prospects for a pitcher. Anyone giving up an elite or high-tier pitcher doesn't want a one year rental on Ellsbury.

 

Quite possible. I'm interested in who we could actually pull of given the situation. No real feelings on anyone at the moment.

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Johan Santana has been a had an ERA around 2.8-3.33 for his entire career. He had an injury issue at the end of this year at which point his stats fell off a cliff, but he's probably the best pitcher available if he's recovered from his should issue.
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Stay the f*** away from Lee. The guy is getting older and owed a s*** ton of money. Guys like him are exactly who we need to stay away from if we want to avoid getting caught in the same shitstorm that we just saw in 2012.
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I'm thinking an Ellsbury for Vargas type deal might be better

 

Aren't you always saying that you're scared of soft-tossing lefties at Fenway? With an average fastball velocity of 88 MPH for his career, Jason Vargas is the textbook definition of a soft-tossing lefty.

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