Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

Soto was non-tendered by the Rangers. He might be a good guy to sign as he brings similar power to Martin's

[BSN07]

Soto was non-tendered by the Rangers. He might be a good guy to sign as he brings similar power to Martin's

 

I thought the same thing when I saw his name on the non tendered list.

[Behindenemylines]

No cardio equals fat Derek.

 

What is Jeter on a see food diet? At his age, the position he plays, and a short off season because of his injury is there any Yankee fans that are a little concern? As far as the catching the $panks need to replace the game calling and D that Martin gave them. A catcher's ability to do so goes along way in a team having success.

[Meh]

Soto was non-tendered by the Rangers. He might be a good guy to sign as he brings similar power to Martin's

 

I'd like Soto too, he makes sense. A ST trio of Soto/Romine/Stewart and see who sticks. I'd look at Reynolds too, he'd be nice to have to plug into 3B, 1B, and DH, maybe he could even see some time in LF?

 

I'd honestly put Hughes and Granderson on the trade market too. See what they could bring in. Granderson to Texas and Hughes to the Royals, Twins, or Rockies maybe.

[jacksonianmarch]

What is Jeter on a see food diet? At his age, the position he plays, and a short off season because of his injury is there any Yankee fans that are a little concern? As far as the catching the $panks need to replace the game calling and D that Martin gave them. A catcher's ability to do so goes along way in a team having success.

 

Jeter cant do cardio until January. He'll lose the weight. Soto isn't as strong defensively as Martin, but he is a good defender

[User Name]

I'd like Soto too, he makes sense. A ST trio of Soto/Romine/Stewart and see who sticks. I'd look at Reynolds too, he'd be nice to have to plug into 3B, 1B, and DH, maybe he could even see some time in LF?

 

I'd honestly put Hughes and Granderson on the trade market too. See what they could bring in. Granderson to Texas and Hughes to the Royals, Twins, or Rockies maybe.

 

Why would you play him in LF when you have a capable defender there and he's never played the position? Why?

[jacksonianmarch]

I think he's assuming a deal of Granderson and moving Gardner to CF

[User Name]

I think he's assuming a deal of Granderson and moving Gardner to CF

 

Even then, why would you play him in LF?

[Meh]

I think he's assuming a deal of Granderson and moving Gardner to CF

 

Yeah I had figured Granderson gone, Gardner in CF and I was trying to think about LF. Sorry I didn't explain it too well haha.

 

My friend was thinking about a huge trade with the Nats.. Cano, Hughes(or Nova), Nunez and Logan for Desmond, Ramos, Morse, and Rendon. I hate to give up Cano, but getting a package like that would be a pretty good get. I think they'd want Nova more than Hughes, since Hughes would be a f/a, my friend actually had Hughes in there first. Desmond could play 2B for next season.... Morse could fit into RF, Nats get their starter, upgrade at 2B, get a SS and a power lefty in their bullpen.

 

 

Edit: I forgot I'd aslo send Adams or Corban Joseph to the Nationals too.

[DocHolliday]

Yeah I had figured Granderson gone, Gardner in CF and I was trying to think about LF. Sorry I didn't explain it too well haha.

 

My friend was thinking about a huge trade with the Nats.. Cano, Hughes(or Nova), Nunez and Logan for Desmond, Ramos, Morse, and Rendon. I hate to give up Cano, but getting a package like that would be a pretty good get. I think they'd want Nova more than Hughes, since Hughes would be a f/a, my friend actually had Hughes in there first. Desmond could play 2B for next season.... Morse could fit into RF, Nats get their starter, upgrade at 2B, get a SS and a power lefty in their bullpen.

 

If Granderson is really on the block, then the Rangers would certainly be a possible fit. With their need in CF and plethora of prospects and surplus in certain positions (SS and pitching to name a few), I could see a fit there.

[Meh]

If Granderson is really on the block, then the Rangers would certainly be a possible fit. With their need in CF and plethora of prospects and surplus in certain positions (SS and pitching to name a few), I could see a fit there.

 

I'd actually love Olt. Something like Olt for Granderson maybe.

 

Lineup would be after those two trades:

C: Ramos

1B: Tex

2B: Desmond

SS: Jeter

3B: ARod

LF Ichrio

CF: Gardner

RF: Morse

DH: Reynolds

 

Rotation

CC

Kuroda

Pettitte

Hughes

Phelps/free agent signing, Pineda coming back too

 

Mo/Robertson/Joba/Aarsdma/(I hope we sign Soria too)/Cabrera/Rapada

[DocHolliday]

I'd actually love Olt. Something like Olt for Granderson maybe.

 

I would have been on board if they would have dealt Olt for Ellsbury, but I doubt they would deal Olt, even for a better known commodity like Granderson. They are really high on him, and obviously, Profar is not going to be dealt.

 

Andrus, to me, seems like the logical fit. They've been on record several times suggesting they won't deal Andrus, but I think they would deal him in the right deal for an elite OF, and I feel Granderson would fall into that category for them because of his ability to play CF. Andrus is a Boras client, and is set to be a FA after the 2014 season. He's certainly not going to be moved off of SS at this point in his career.

 

There has been rumors that the Rangers would try putting Kinsler in the OF, but I don't see that as a fit for next season. With Cruz signed and Murphy still on the team, Kinsler would be forced into CF and I personally think that's not what the organization wants to do. Even though Rangers Ballpark is a home run friendly ballpark, it is similar to Yankee Stadium with its expansive CF.

 

Beltre is locked into 3B for the next couple of seasons. The Rangers still have Moreland for the moment as the primary 1B, with Olt getting mixed in with playing time. And, they have Michael Young signed through 2014, who will almost certainly be the primary DH and super utility player. In other words, they have too many IF and not enough OF - particularly up the middle.

 

My guess is they will look to trade for a CF to replace Hamilton, and Andrus, despite their public denial, represents the most logical chip they have to obtain OF help. Obviously, if they dealt Andrus, Profar becomes the starting SS, solving their dilemma there. And I feel that they will ultimately look to deal Moreland for rotation or bullpen help and let Olt take a more full time role at 1B.

[BSN07]

Soto re-signed with Texas. Yankees C situation could be a ? going into ST if the young guys are battling for the spot. But it could be fun to watch too.

[jacksonianmarch]

I would think Romine would have the upper hand. He's equal to Stewart in defense, as both as very solid, but he has a much higher offensive projection

[jacksonianmarch]

Sounds like ARod's hip is acting up again. I think the days of ARod seeing the field on defense might be over. They also might be delayed for Jeter too. If both are coming off lower extremity surgeries, we will have a bizarre looking IF come opening day. This is why the Yanks are going so hard after Stephen Drew

[jacksonianmarch]

OTOH, it might give us exactly what we need, a chance to groom our prospects and take a yr to step back. Nunez has been dynamite in limited time offensively, but he has been inconsistent with the glove. We also have Corban Joseph hitting very well on the farm at 2b, a position he could re-take if they decide to move Cano to 3b. Same can be said for David Adams. If Jeter can hit but cannot field come opening day and ARod is out for a length of time, I'd stash Derek Eater at SS and go with said infield. We would need to get a bat for RF, though, as our internal options arent ready for prime time come 2013

[MANNYHOF24]

Sounds like ARod's hip is acting up again. I think the days of ARod seeing the field on defense might be over. They also might be delayed for Jeter too. If both are coming off lower extremity surgeries, we will have a bizarre looking IF come opening day. This is why the Yanks are going so hard after Stephen Drew

 

I think there is a good chance AROD will never really be an impact hitter again. He is 37 years old, and this will be 2 hip surgeries in the last 4 seasons.

 

The Yankees infield is in trouble. The only person you can absolutely rely on is Cano. Tex seems to be in decline, and could fall off the cliff. Who knows how Jeter will come back from the ankle and now AROD. The Yankees have been incredibly lucky to be so successful with an old team. At some point one would think it's going to blow up in their faces. The more I think about, it really could be this season.

[MANNYHOF24]

OTOH, it might give us exactly what we need, a chance to groom our prospects and take a yr to step back. Nunez has been dynamite in limited time offensively, but he has been inconsistent with the glove. We also have Corban Joseph hitting very well on the farm at 2b, a position he could re-take if they decide to move Cano to 3b. Same can be said for David Adams. If Jeter can hit but cannot field come opening day and ARod is out for a length of time, I'd stash Derek Eater at SS and go with said infield. We would need to get a bat for RF, though, as our internal options arent ready for prime time come 2013

 

I have a feeling the Yankees are going to snag Josh Hamilton... Would you be surprised?

[BSN07]

I have a feeling the Yankees are going to snag Josh Hamilton... Would you be surprised?

 

It would completely go against them trying to get below the LT line by 2014. I'd actually be surprised to see them spend big like that this offseason.

[BSN07]

With A-Rod set to miss a chunk of 2013, the Yankees will likely step up their efforts to land Stephen Drew, tweets ESPN's Jim Bowden.

 

 

Considering how bad he was at the end of last year, missing a chunk might help the Yanks

[BSN07]

Rodriguez's surgery will be on his left hip, not his previously-repaired right hip, according to Sherman. Recovery time is expected to be three to six months, so A-Rod figures to be healthy enough to return to the lineup by June, says Sherman (Twitter links).

 

He know has two surgically repaired hips? Wow good luck with that. He has to be a full time DH when he comes back right? I know the Yankes didn't want to clog up the DH spot but they are going to need to keep him as healthy as possible? I wonder if that would lead to Cano to 3B and Jeter to 2B eventually(if Drew/Nunez take over SS)?

[User Name]

From MLBTR:

 

A-Rod Likely To Undergo Surgery, Miss Part Of 2013

By Luke Adams [December 3 at 9:44am CST]

 

9:44am: Rodriguez's surgery will be on his left hip, not his previously-repaired right hip, according to Sherman. Recovery time is expected to be three to six months, so A-Rod figures to be healthy enough to return to the lineup by June, says Sherman (Twitter links).

 

9:17am: With A-Rod set to miss a chunk of 2013, the Yankees will likely step up their efforts to land Stephen Drew, tweets ESPN's Jim Bowden.

 

9:02am: Alex Rodriguez's struggles in 2012 may have been partly due to a hip injury, as Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports. According to Sherman, A-Rod was playing with a tear in his hip, which had previously been surgically repaired. The Yankees third baseman will likely need more surgery and figures to miss part of the 2013 season, says Sherman (all Twitter links).

 

As Sherman notes, with Derek Jeter recovering from surgery as well, the Yankees "desperately" need help on the left side of the infield. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets that the team's options include Marco Scutaro and Jeff Keppinger, though Keppinger is also coming off surgery.

 

According to Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News (Twitter link), Rodriguez's surgery will take place at some point in January.

[User Name]

The hell's wrong with this thread?

[jacksonianmarch]

I think there is a good chance AROD will never really be an impact hitter again. He is 37 years old, and this will be 2 hip surgeries in the last 4 seasons.

 

The Yankees infield is in trouble. The only person you can absolutely rely on is Cano. Tex seems to be in decline, and could fall off the cliff. Who knows how Jeter will come back from the ankle and now AROD. The Yankees have been incredibly lucky to be so successful with an old team. At some point one would think it's going to blow up in their faces. The more I think about, it really could be this season.

 

This is overly dramatic to say the least. Because of the decline across the board of all offensive players, Tex actually posted a higher WAR in 2012 than he did in 2011, while playing 23 fewer games. He is still in his prime and is still a good bet for 30HR 100RBI and a ton of walks. He isnt the .300/.400/.600 hitter we thought we signed, but he is still a solid offensive contributor. And Cano is the best at his position offensively, bar none. SO the right side of the infield is probably the best in baseball. Jeter had a career season last yr and it remains to be seen how he comes back from his injury and ARod's recovery is 3-6 months, yet everyone is pointing to the 6 month mark. Even if he is, Jeter will be back offensively well before then and ARod will likely return to the lineup with a lot of games to go. We should improve defensively on the left side of the infield regardless of what we do since both ARod and Jeter were statuesque over the last yr.

 

On option that I forsee happening is ARod moving to DH and Jeter moving to 3b, allowing Nunez to ascend to the starting role full time. I think ARod's days of being an offensive force are behind him, but if he is moved to DH full time, I still think he can be a near .800OPS player offensively. He just needs to get those hips healthy, but I do agree that his days in the field are likely over

[jacksonianmarch]

From the reports I have read, it sounds like ARod's left hip was bothering him before the playoffs and he needed pain killers and even a night in the hospital due to the pain. I have to wonder why they waited 2 months into the offseason to get this s*** taken care of. Bad medicine practiced in NY

[Station 13]

A-Rod look cook in the playoff. This nails in the coffin for him as a position player. He'll be an expensive .800 OPS DH. How many more years jacko?

[jacksonianmarch]

5 unfortunately. If fully healthy, he can hit. Playing the field isn't helping

[jacksonianmarch]

Looks like Cody Ross is high priority for the Yanks. Undecided on this idea, he is coming off a good yr, but it was Fenway dependent

[BSN07]

Looks like Cody Ross is high priority for the Yanks. Undecided on this idea, he is coming off a good yr, but it was Fenway dependent

 

He could be good. You should hope they avoid the 3rd year. He can be a bit of a circus in RF on occasion. Not like Swisher was a GG though.

[jacksonianmarch]

Swisher sucked in RF. He was like a Circus without any lights while 50 yr old coke heads are doing the flying trapeze.