Jose Iglesias

[Brennan]

Still don't get the Aviles love. If you're willing to settle for that at S.S and finally just give up on getting an MLB level shortstop then I guess you are a fan of mediocrity. Don't show me his offensive stats to make your case, he got hot with the bat for awhile pre Allstar break but hasn't done s*** since. Face it, the Royals had no use for him.

[v2freak]

What do you guys think about Aviles... I think he has does a really good job this year at SS. A nice surprise!

 

His offense is okay. He hit better last year when he didn't have to play everyday so honestly, he may just have to be a platoon guy. I think he'd be more valuable at third though.

[redsoxrules]

Still don't get the Aviles love. If you're willing to settle for that at S.S and finally just give up on getting an MLB level shortstop then I guess you are a fan of mediocrity. Don't show me his offensive stats to make your case, he got hot with the bat for awhile pre Allstar break but hasn't done s*** since. Face it, the Royals had no use for him.

 

I don't get the Iglesias love .

At this point Aviles is the better option and its not even close.

 

The worst part about Iglesias bat is that he's hitting nothing hard at all .

It's not like he's tearing the cover off the ball and just being unlucky and its getting caught. Everything he puts the bat on and connects is weak .

[v2freak]

He has 2 of Boston's 7 hits so far tonight

[jung]

Damn...I wish I had seen that. Was not even able to listen on radio to much tonight and just got home. What kinds of hits were they....seeing eye variety....anything driven hard?

[Station 13]

Damn...I wish I had seen that. Was not even able to listen on radio to much tonight and just got home. What kinds of hits were they....seeing eye variety....anything driven hard?

 

grounder up the middle, infield hit to short.

 

Just cheapies. He has like 5 XBH in AAA or something.

[Palodios]

grounder up the middle, infield hit to short.

 

Just cheapies. He has like 5 XBH in AAA or something.

 

It's not like he's tearing the cover off the ball and just being unlucky and its getting caught. Everything he puts the bat on and connects is weak .

 

Welcome to 2009.

[Laser Show]

grounder up the middle, infield hit to short.

 

Just cheapies. He has like 5 XBH in AAA or something.

 

And a towering blast in the 9th!

[jung]

The HR is one of the very few times I have seen Iggy actually shift his weight and turn on the pitch.

 

Now V has got to leave Iggy in the lineup and see if he can build on this. Not saying he needs to or even can suddenly become a "hitter" but if he just even can somehow not be taking that stupid, weak-assed, defensive slap swing at the ball, that will be a massive improvement by itself.

 

Still bunt's like s*** which is tough to see from a guy that hits like he does.

[RedSoxNC84]

I'd take Iglesias and his absolutely atrocious hitting over Aviles and his barely more than mediocre hitting.

[jung]

Atrocious is one thing but Iggy has exhibited a tendency to be completely overpowered and that is just to far downstream to be acceptable.

 

To be honest I just wish V had not been playing him once every three days or every other day when he did have him in the lineup. The season was already long gone and Iggy really needed to be in there every day I think. That decision to pinch hit for him on a 2-2 count looks doubly foolish today although it already looked about as bad as it could look when V did it.

 

I would be happy to see him toss in a few base hits, a successful sacrifice or two and just look like he is not being overpowered so easily out the season. If he can do that we might have something.

[a700hitter]

I'd take Iglesias and his absolutely atrocious hitting over Aviles and his barely more than mediocre hitting.

Scutaro is better than both of them. He's like Pujols compared to Iggy.

[cbbosox]

the mendoza line is a sub .200 average- maybe we will the iglesias line at sub .100

 

what a downer -the Sox two big prospects Lavarnway and Iglesias both can't hit.

[Station 13]

I'd take Iglesias and his absolutely atrocious hitting over Aviles and his barely more than mediocre hitting.

 

?

 

Aviles defense is pretty good.

[Laser Show]

Scutaro is better than both of them. He's like Pujols compared to Iggy.

 

Scutaro is alright, but he's been even worse this season than he was last year. People overlook the horrible 1st half he had with Colorado. What he's doing in SF is absolutely not an indicator of future success. I'd still rather have Iggy in the every day lineup. Omar Vizquel had a .534 OPS in his age 22 season, which was his first. Iglesias has a .514 OPS so far in limited time. Why is everyone giving up on him when he has plenty of room to grow?

 

the mendoza line is a sub .200 average- maybe we will the iglesias line at sub .100

 

what a downer -the Sox two big prospects Lavarnway and Iglesias both can't hit.

 

And they're both very young with very little experience. Not everyone comes up and hits like a Mike Trout or Alex Rodriguez. Rookies often struggle.

[a700hitter]

Scutaro is alright, but he's been even worse this season than he was last year. People overlook the horrible 1st half he had with Colorado. What he's doing in SF is absolutely not an indicator of future success. I'd still rather have Iggy in the every day lineup. Omar Vizquel had a .534 OPS in his age 22 season, which was his first. Iglesias has a .514 OPS so far in limited time. Why is everyone giving up on him when he has plenty of room to grow?

 

 

 

And they're both very young with very little experience. Not everyone comes up and hits like a Mike Trout or Alex Rodriguez. Rookies often struggle.

So Scutaro's full season of production in 2012 that is in line with his production since 2009 is not as good an indicator as his partial season at Colorado? If that is what you are saying, it makes no sense.

[SoxSport]

Too much emphasis on Iggy's hitting. Leave it alone. Same with Lav. Takes awhile to get in gear when you move up a league. It's not that they have Tulo or Johnny Bench waiting in the wings. Same deal with this guy Gomez, who keeps hitting when he plays. They should stick him at 1b and see what he does. Loney is a banjo hitter. So is Aviles, for that matter. OBP below .300. Not a regular on a good team. Nothing to lose on both counts.

[Dojji]

So Scutaro's full season of production in 2012 that is in line with his production since 2009 is not as good an indicator as his partial season at Colorado? If that is what you are saying, it makes no sense.

 

The last time I heard that argument used to defend a Red Sox shortstop, it was being used to justify the acquisition of Julio Lugo.

 

Players who are inconsistent in the NL West have no business in Boston. That's just the facts.

[a700hitter]

The last time I heard that argument used to defend a Red Sox shortstop, it was being used to justify the acquisition of Julio Lugo.

 

Players who are inconsistent in the NL West have no business in Boston. That's just the facts.

He had been in Boston and the results had been pretty consistent with this year's product. No one is talking about getting him back.

 

Edit: He had comparable production while playing for Toronto too, or doesn't Canada count.

[Laser Show]

He had comparable production while playing for Toronto too, or doesn't Canada count.

 

Did you remember to convert from metric to imperial?

[jung]

Lavs at least swings like like a professional hitter and we know he can hit and I think he will hit not only to an acceptable level but to a much more than acceptable level.

 

The mistake the Sox made with Iggy is not giving him enough at bats up here this season so that they actually, finally see what they have. This is the last year of his deal so it would have certainly been to their benefit to figure it out this year particularly since this year died pretty early.

 

The Sox might have done some things the last few days to convince Iggy that he is literally playing himself out of a position and I don't mean sitting him for a pinch hitter with a 2-2 count. That was just plain stupid. They might have had him looking at some film....who knows. The swings he was taking in the last of the Rays games was not the swing he has been taking for the last few weeks up here.

 

Last night's were the best swings Iggy has taken while up here by a wide margin. It was also the second of two straight nights that he has exhibited some knowledge for the location of the outer edge of the plate.

 

They should have brought Iggy here sooner and once here should have had him in every game. He MUST play every game out the year. However if he continues to hit as weakly as he has hit up till last night and continues to employ that slap hitting style, then that would be pretty tough to take.

 

Really interested in seeing if Iggy carries last night's success forward at least to the extent of not taking that damn defensive swing.

[Palodios]

The last time I heard that argument used to defend a Red Sox shortstop, it was being used to justify the acquisition of Julio Lugo.

 

Players who are inconsistent in the NL West have no business in Boston. That's just the facts.

 

Facts? The fact is that he was an above average shortstop when he was here. That's all I need.

[lospunchados]

Lavs at least swings like like a professional hitter and we know he can hit and I think he will hit not only to an acceptable level but to a much more than acceptable level.

 

The mistake the Sox made with Iggy is not giving him enough at bats up here this season so that they actually, finally see what they have. This is the last year of his deal so it would have certainly been to their benefit to figure it out this year particularly since this year died pretty early.

 

The Sox might have done some things the last few days to convince Iggy that he is literally playing himself out of a position and I don't mean sitting him for a pinch hitter with a 2-2 count. That was just plain stupid. They might have had him looking at some film....who knows. The swings he was taking in the last of the Rays games was not the swing he has been taking for the last few weeks up here.

 

Last night's were the best swings Iggy has taken while up here by a wide margin. It was also the second of two straight nights that he has exhibited some knowledge for the location of the outer edge of the plate.

 

They should have brought Iggy here sooner and once here should have had him in every game. He MUST play every game out the year. However if he continues to hit as weakly as he has hit up till last night and continues to employ that slap hitting style, then that would be pretty tough to take.

 

Really interested in seeing if Iggy carries last night's success forward at least to the extent of not taking that damn defensive swing.

 

 

 

He is still under contract for next year.

[Behindenemylines]

At some point he needs to hit. The glove is a given, but you still need to be a threat in the lineup. In the perfect world he would be a .280 hitter. I could live with a .240 to .250 hitter if you know you get that D.

[rhfil]

Pawtucket coaches need to stress fundamentals with their young players. They need to create more plate discipline and the ability to sacrifice bunt. Red Sox used to have great plate discipline. Now very few of them have it. Pedroia, Ellsbury and Ortiz are pretty much the exception. Ross and Saltalamachia suck at it.

[Behindenemylines]

Even though they don't have the great plate discipline with this 2012 team they are still one of the higher scoring teams in the league. A return to the approach of all the hitters being disciplined will go along way in fixing this mess. Players who don't fit that approach aren't needed in Boston.

[v2freak]

Even though they don't have the great plate discipline with this 2012 team they are still one of the higher scoring teams in the league. A return to the approach of all the hitters being disciplined will go along way in fixing this mess. Players who don't fit that approach aren't needed in Boston.

 

Are the Red Sox still a high scoring team? They went through that awful stretch where they couldn't seem to score more than 2 runs a game. Ortiz and Middlebrooks' injuries have also hurt substantially. Every once in a while, they'll have a high scoring game like that 8 run game against Toronto recently, but for the most part, they'll losing games 4-2 or something.

[mvp 78]

Pawtucket coaches need to stress fundamentals with their young players. They need to create more plate discipline and the ability to sacrifice bunt. Red Sox used to have great plate discipline. Now very few of them have it. Pedroia, Ellsbury and Ortiz are pretty much the exception. Ross and Saltalamachia suck at it.

 

How much time did Ross and Salty play at Pawtucket?

[jung]

Sox have fallen from 2nd in runs scored, behind Texas and the position they held most of the season to 6th in runs scored, now trailing Brewers, NYY, Angels and Cards

[jung]

You are right.....he does have one more year left...thought they signed that deal one year earlier than they did. They can option him next season as well. He has the one more option year remaining.