8/3 Vs The Choos

[TutGadol]

Breslow looks good but what are they going to do with him? We aren't contenders this season and we have Miller, Hill and Morales for 2013, so an extension seems out of the question. An odd trade.

[Station 13]

How is Tazawa hitting 95? He used to be a high 80s low 90s kind of guy.

 

He was a low 90 as a starter. He could just reach back as a reliever in shorter outings.

[kapsis21]

I don't know why he doesn't. He's done well this season. But' date=' Bobby would rather go with guys like Matt Albers.[/quote']

 

that too in crucial sitations.. i was going to type this and you said it...

[jung]

Well they escaped that inning. Maybe they will put themselves in the same spot this inning they were in last before the DP. Really hard to see opportunities like that just get frittered away and then what????hope they get another opportunity like that. I mean it is the Twins for God Sake. You have two on, nobody out getting late in the game and you get......nothing!

[jung]

Another guy we are making looking like Cy somebody. It sounds like the guy has only gone six innings one other time this season....terrific.

[jung]

EEI guys were saying that with all the ******** in the media and the digs going back and forth about this V and WMB and ownership thing that a bad series here against the Twins could really touch off some ugly ugly s***. Apparently there are a good many folks in this organization that are right at the brink right now....just right at the very cliff edge. I always take this stuff coming out in the media with a grain of salt. However there is enough getting out from the actual combatants themselves to have me worried.

[DocHolliday]

EEI guys were saying that with all the ******** in the media and the digs going back and forth about this V and WMB and ownership thing that a bad series here against the Twins could really touch off some ugly ugly s***. Apparently there are a good many folks in this organization that are right at the brink right now....just right at the very cliff edge. I always take this stuff coming out in the media with a grain of salt. However there is enough getting out from the actual combatants themselves to have me worried.

 

I would almost welcome it at this point because this team is going nowhere this season. Their focus needs to be on how to improve the overall attitude and image of their organization for next season. It is clear they are the laughing stock of baseball at this point and they need a personnel change.

 

Only this time they don't need to start and end the purge with the manager, coaching, and training staff.

[jung]

Yea I agree Doc....changing the manager and then castrating him the first opportunity they had was really bad. I just don't understand what upper management saw that said to them they should have empowered this bunch of players after what happened last year....appears to me that there is a giant disconnect between upper management and their belief in what they have in this group of players and what they actually have in this group of players.....I posted a couple of weeks ago that for one thing, I don't think they are going to allow any illusions to remain after this season.

[SemperFi Sox]

and idiot cherington does essentially nothing at the deadline.

[jung]

Oh come on ump you are not even giving the hitter a chance with that s***. How is he even supposed to want to protect the plate on a pitch that far outside.

[SemperFi Sox]

Pedroia "I never argue, you know that"

[SoxFanForsyth]

Wow that was absolutely horrendous.

[TutGadol]

Awful calls.

[jung]

what the f*** is this guy looking at?

[NativeBostonian]

I like Ross. He's been a good pickup.

[jung]

Although I am not going to give them the ump as an out here. This should not at this point be a tied ball game with the awful twins. It is on the Sox that this game is this tight this late in the game and honestly if I had to guess right now I would probably guess that the twins are more likely to win this mess than the Sox.

[mvp 78]

Lavs needs to show he's ready.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Wow. 2nd pitch to Lavs was easily a strike.

[mvp 78]

Overrated. Shouldn't be that high in the lineup.

[jung]

I think you are right SFF. I was almost going to post something myself. This guy is totally lost behind the plate.

 

I would not know what to do at this point....pitcher or hitter!

 

How can you look at a guy like Pedey almost spinning to get out of the way and then think that was a strike. Just out of respect for Pedey you think the guy would think twice about that pitch.

[jung]

Geez I really have a bad feeling about Melancon here. One pitch and the twins could be leading in the 8th

[jung]

Why was that not a strike....I have no idea what is or is not a strike any longer.

[TutGadol]

Excluding this relief appearance Melancon allowed 9 earned runs in his last 9 IP.

[Palodios]

Excluding this relief appearance Melancon allowed 9 earned runs in his last 4 IP.

 

Fixed.

[jung]

Geez Tut I knew it was bad but even I did not think it was that bad. Should have gone to look myself.

[DocHolliday]

Yea I agree Doc....changing the manager and then castrating him the first opportunity they had was really bad. I just don't understand what upper management saw that said to them they should have empowered this bunch of players after what happened last year....appears to me that there is a giant disconnect between upper management and their belief in what they have in this group of players and what they actually have in this group of players.....I posted a couple of weeks ago that for one thing' date=' I don't think they are going to allow any illusions to remain after this season.[/quote']

 

I wouldn't put anything past the FO at this point. It seems clear at this point that their decision to hire Bobby was purely a business decision - not a baseball decision. And even for a business decision, it was a bad one. All it did was generate a couple of months of praise from the media during the "innovative" routines in spring training and the false hope we all had that Bobby would be different this managerial go-round.

 

Remember that press conference right after the season ended with ownership and management (the awkward one with Theo and Tito when they were still working with the Sox) ? The organization talked about how they were going to seriously assess everything they do - from training/nutrition to their player personnel decisions, etc.

 

WHAT A LOAD OF s***.

 

What they did instead is convince themselves that their failures were the 100 % the result of an incompetent and carefree manager and painted him as the poster child of the 2011 collapse in the Bob H story, discussions with the media, etc. They fed the fans that ******** expecting us to buy it.

 

Why should we expect anything different from them this offseason?

[TutGadol]

Miller is starting to look like an overgrown hobo.

[jung]

I suspect we are stuck once again hoping one of these guys hits a bomb. They don't seem to have another way to score except on rare occasions.

[mvp 78]

Green light.

[TutGadol]

And now they'll leave CC at first because he "Hasn't got his timing right yet".