Crawford shut down

[jacksonianmarch]

Groin strain, unsure of severity, but it will likely set him back about 1-2 weeks minimum if it is grade I (a la CC Sabathia)

[a700hitter]

What as waste! The guy s a dog.

[DwightFright]

What as waste! The guy s a dog.

 

Ya gotta wonder if this guy is scared to come back and face the catcalls from Sox fans if he doesn't rip it up right out of the gate. The front office should have the nutsacks to dump this guy for whatever they can get and write it off as another Theo failure.

[lospunchados]

better him having a setback than ellsbury

[FredLynn]

Valentine said it would be a few days. We'll see.

[jung]

Well the bigger problem with Crawford is clearly the elbow. What the hell is going on here. That elbow is now looking like headed for TJ. Isn't that injury the TJ surgery injury? If that is the case what the hell have they been doing? We are half way through the season...CC now says the elbow is no better and they delayed what I guess is going to be TJ for what?

[wyo-sox]

The good news is for me personally this has moved past frustration to laughable.

[SoxSport]

Like I say, why the hell wasn't Crawford and Ells here for the Yankees series? Imagine paying those guys millions to screw around playing in the minors--hitting HRs and all. They should at least have been in the friggin' dugout.

[jacksonianmarch]

Crawford is hurt, so he wouldnt help. They ease guys in when they are on rehab and get them reps without having to worry about winning. It's effectively a new spring training.

[SoxSport]

Crawford is hurt' date=' so he wouldnt help. They ease guys in when they are on rehab and get them reps without having to worry about winning. It's effectively a new spring training.[/quote']

 

He might not be hurt of he had been in Boston this week.

[Designated Hater]

The problem is that Crawford could POSSIBLY swing a bat and be your DH, but we have resident whiner Big Papi in that slot and he isn't going anywhere.

[iortiz]

Let me see... As long I remember, this elbow injury appeared from nowhere after the wirst injury, didn't it?.

 

I wonder whether this elbow injury started since last season. If so, and this is the reason why he was underperforming and it still bothering, oh boy, be prepare for the biggest fiasco MLB contract ever, unless he goes to TJ or something as Jung suggested, but again, If he needed that, what the hell are they waiting for? Another subpar year?

[SoxSport]

Cafardo today wonders why Ellsbury isn't playing in Boston, if he can play in the minors. I wonder why Crawford has been pussying around in the minors, too, the last several weeks. Waiting to get injured again? Another example of the absurdities of the Red Sox organization. Keep playing these guys in the minors until they get hurt again.

 

I might add that some think Cafardo is V's mouthpiece. If so, the Red Sox are in a lot of trouble, because V may be out of the loop. That could well affect the team.

[example1]

Valentine needs a mouthpiece? When did he learn that subtlety?

[FredLynn]

Cafardo today wonders why Ellsbury isn't playing in Boston, if he can play in the minors. I wonder why Crawford has been pussying around in the minors, too, the last several weeks. Waiting to get injured again? Another example of the absurdities of the Red Sox organization. Keep playing these guys in the minors until they get hurt again.

 

I might add that some think Cafardo is V's mouthpiece. If so, the Red Sox are in a lot of trouble, because V may be out of the loop. That could well affect the team.

 

I could be wrong about this, but I believe that the rules in the minors are a little different. I think a player can bat out of order, maybe lead off every inning, to speed rehab time. I don't know if this is being utilized in the cases of CC and JE.

[jung]

Well I guess the issue is that everyday players do play with the same injury that very quickly sends a pitcher to TJ surgery. If the injury becomes very painful, then the surgery becomes the recommended course of action.

 

So I guess that is really what it boils down to for an everyday player. However if it does eventually become to uncomfortable for him then given the amount of time he has missed for these other injuries, not dealing with the elbow would seem pretty foolish. Bad enough the Sox are overpaying for a heathy player....now CC is just another player eating up resources doing nothing.

 

I do think at this point, regardless of the fact that the plasma shot has done very little according to Carl, he is committed to playing this year with the injury. Of course while you don't have to have a great arm to play Fenway's left field, CC will become yet another player that you are hoping will generate enough offense to make up for the fact that Carl will throw out nobody from LF. In fact in all likelihood he will get the same advice LaRussa gave Albert when he had the same issue....just soft toss the ball into the SS. That aught to be effective! You could see that being OK if the Sox pitchers did not give up line drives like a broken candy machine gives up jawbreakers.

[example1]

I could be wrong about this' date=' but I believe that the rules in the minors are a little different. I think a player can bat out of order, maybe lead off every inning, to speed rehab time. I don't know if this is being utilized in the cases of CC and JE.[/quote']

 

I'm pretty sure that's not the case in AAA or AA or even A. It might be the case in extended spring training or even gulf coast league. I'm pretty sure high minors play by the same rules as everyone else. I could be wrong though..

 

There are obvious other benefits to playing in the minors though. Notably, allowing JE to work on the things he wants to work on, rather than playing in game situations that dictate what he should do.

[a700hitter]

Cafardo today wonders why Ellsbury isn't playing in Boston, if he can play in the minors. I wonder why Crawford has been pussying around in the minors, too, the last several weeks. Waiting to get injured again? Another example of the absurdities of the Red Sox organization. Keep playing these guys in the minors until they get hurt again.

 

I might add that some think Cafardo is V's mouthpiece. If so, the Red Sox are in a lot of trouble, because V may be out of the loop. That could well affect the team.

When did the practice start of rehabbing position by playing weeks of rehab games before being activated? I don't get it. Ellsbury and Crawford had injuries to arms and shoulders. There is absolutely no reason why their legs aren't in game shape. They should have been running every day and shagging flies etc. All they need to do is get their hitting timing back. I don't see the need for them to be getting all these ABs in the minors. It's bull s***. Before my time, Joe DiMaggio missed the beginning of the season with a bad heel. I believe that he missed 1 or 2 months. He got activated for a series in fenway and absolutely wrecked the Red Sox. No rehab necessary. This is union driven CBA driven ********.

[SemperFi Sox]

Crawford: Elbow will 'blow out on me'

 

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21212371/crawford-elbow-will-blow-out-me

 

what a f***ing disaster he is.

[FenwayWest]

Take the surgery now. Honestly, Sweeney and Nava can manage LF w/ Kalish around too. We don't need a 50% crawford taking up a roster spot, especially if he ends up completely blowing it out in Aug/Sept

 

Take the surgery now. We'll talk to ya next yr...

 

What a waste of money, but hey, if any of you saw this coming, I'd like to talk to you about my investment portfolio!

[Gringo]

The medical staff need to be sacked, from the top doc, down to the massage guy.

 

He should have been properly assessed 10 months ago, and been operated on then.

 

Total farce.

[lospunchados]

Crawford: Elbow will 'blow out on me'

 

http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21212371/crawford-elbow-will-blow-out-me

 

what a f***ing disaster he is.

 

unbelievable

[jung]

Well now I don't know what Crawford is telling us. He appeared or appears committed to playing out the year likely soft tossing the ball into SS instead of making any serious throws in from the outfield. For outfielders suffering this malady, soft tossing can be the approach at least for some period of time.

 

Is Crawford now telling us that TJ is a certainty for him....that it is only a matter of time?

 

As I have said in other threads I just don't know how long it is now going to take for the Sox to work their way through these horrific contracts....some of them really not more than a couple years old and lasting out another 4-5 years.

 

Agons, no power....CC no play and a disappointment when he does play....Lackey no play (but that contract has much less time left on it). However, all three of those will in my view turn out to be the biggest and worst contracts the Sox have ever handed out to anybody and all were made during this period of time when I am suggesting that the Sox run by LL have turned their focus almost entirely on glitz and glamor and making the biggest splash, not necessarily the best baseball move for the team.

[redsoxrules]

LOL , what a bust .

 

2 first year are allready down the drain and this is in his prime years . It's only going to get worse.

[Laser Show]

I can't place this all on Crawford. He sounds like he actually wants to play. I blame our medical staff for telling him a little r&r would heal him. He needs to go under the knife either today or the day the season ends. Doing it Oct 10 gives him around 5 months until Spring Training. There should be no reason he misses time NEXT season because of an issue found before THIS season.

 

This reminds me a bit of Celtics G Avery Bradley. He just went in for surgery and will miss the start of the season. Why didn't he opt for surgery a month ago when the season ended?

[SoxSport]

I can't place this all on Crawford. He sounds like he actually wants to play. I blame our medical staff for telling him a little r&r would heal him. He needs to go under the knife either today or the day the season ends. Doing it Oct 10 gives him around 5 months until Spring Training. There should be no reason he misses time NEXT season because of an issue found before THIS season.

 

This reminds me a bit of Celtics G Avery Bradley. He just went in for surgery and will miss the start of the season. Why didn't he opt for surgery a month ago when the season ended?

 

In Bradley's case, he had two surgeries--on both shoulders. The left one first after the season. They had to wait for some healing of the left one before doing the right one now.

 

Crawford's case is different. We don't know the facts, but the Red Sox seem to have a policy of taking forever to get players back and playing them for weeks in the minors. In the meantime, they get injured playing in the minors--which is pretty ridiculous. An excellent reason to rehab in Boston--on the bench.

[Laser Show]

In Bradley's case, he had two surgeries--on both shoulders. The left one first after the season. They had to wait for some healing of the left one before doing the right one now.

 

Crawford's case is different. We don't know the facts, but the Red Sox seem to have a policy of taking forever to get players back and playing them for weeks in the minors. In the meantime, they get injured playing in the minors--which is pretty ridiculous. An excellent reason to rehab in Boston--on the bench.

 

I stand corrected then. I overlooked Bradley's initial surgery.

 

Still, I think Boston's medical staff is mostly to blame in Crawford's case.

[redsoxbeatz]

if he had TJ now he would return this time next year right? So... we won't get a full season out of him till AT LEAST 2014? holy s***. lmao.

 

66 million SO FAR he gets and he doesn't play at all. this guy is a f***ing genius. WHY DIDNT I PLAY SPORTS MORE!? f***!

[Laser Show]

if he had TJ now he would return this time next year right? So... we won't get a full season out of him till AT LEAST 2014? holy s***. lmao.

 

66 million SO FAR he gets and he doesn't play at all. this guy is a f***ing genius. WHY DIDNT I PLAY SPORTS MORE!? f***!

 

Pitchers take 12-18 months. Hitters on average, recover in about 6 months. If he has the surgery now, there's no reason he shouldn't be 100% by Jan-Feb.

[iortiz]

I remember when SFF said that this was going to be a matter of days, then months.... now, we are talking about a whole season. This case has not been managed properly, from an outside-in view.