Youk to White Sox

[RiceLynnEvans]

The Greek has gone....funny how time slips away. I wish Youk could've been more a team guy - I'd much rather have Youk pinch hit and start once or twice a week at 3B/1B/DH. Don't like the fact that we're left with Punto as our only reserve infielder.

 

I thought they were holding Youk back to package him one/some of the upcoming roster casualties....Youk, Posednick and a superfluous reliever for a prospect or two. Don't like what we got for him 'cause we already got what we got for him.

[redsoxbeatz]

We wanted youk to go.

 

Youk went.

 

Now we all bitch that we shoulda kept him for bench warmer? lol.

[lospunchados]

The move had to be made so tough to see Youk go but it needed to happen. Though we didn't get to much for him you couldn't expect much either as everyone knew he was getting dealt.

 

On the positive maybe Stewart could be ok with some Triple AAA time as the Sox have done a good job with some reclamtion projects/never quite good enoughs (like Miller, Atchison, mortenson somewhat and maybe prior)

[SoxSport]

Youks problem is he got pushed out of two positions in Boston. Plus he got injured a lot the last couple years. Is he a steal? Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it at 33. He's not much of a 3rd baseman st this point.

That article I saw above is typical partisan BS.

[TutGadol]

What annoys me is the insurmountable amount of his salary the FO is swallowing. I hoped we'd be able to trade at the deadline if necessary from Youk's salary.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Sean McAdam ‏@Sean_McAdam

Wondering y Sox didn't get more 4 Youkilis? Don't be. Some offers from "interested'' teams were: we'll take him 4 nothing, if Sox pay all $.

 

Give me Lillibridge, Stewart, and $2mm and send him to the White Sox over no players, no money, and sending him to an NL team.

[SoxSport]

Yeah--they were over a barrel with Youks. They had no position for him and had to move him. Nobody was going to give them anything for him. It shows how desperate the WSox were for help at 3B.

[a700hitter]

Give me Lillibridge' date=' Stewart, and $2mm and send him to the White Sox over no players, no money, and sending him to an NL team.[/quote']I would have preferred that he had gone to the NL. The $2 million might get JH a nice anniversary gift for his young wife, but it ain't finding it's way back to the team, and neither is Zack.

[Bellhorn04]

I would have preferred that he had gone to the NL. The $2 million might get JH a nice anniversary gift for his young wife' date=' but it ain't finding it's way back to the team, and neither is Zack.[/quote']

 

LOL are you really that sure they're not going to spend the $2 million this year?

[a700hitter]

LOL are you really that sure they're not going to spend the $2 million this year?

Yeah, pretty sure. They just redeployed Scutaro's $6 million by eating Youkilis' salary. BTW, the Sox only got $1 million of salary relief. The other $1 million is to buy him out after the season is over if they don't exercise his option.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Yeah' date=' pretty sure. They just redeployed Scutaro's $6 million by eating Youkilis' salary. BTW, the Sox only got $1 million of salary relief. The other $1 million is to buy him out after the season is over if they don't exercise his option.[/quote']

 

Huh??

 

This makes no sense.

 

They didn't pick up excess salary. It's not like they had to dig into their pockets to pay extra salary. You provides salary relief, not extra salary. Not sure what you mean with this.

 

Instead of having $6mm to spend at the deadline, they now have $8mm.

 

And we just have to agree to disagree. If the Red Sox gave Youkilis to an NL team, paid all of his salary, and got zippo in return, people would have lost their s***, and rightfully so.

[jung]

Paid all of his salary AND got nothing back, absolutely....People would have gone nuts.

[a700hitter]

Huh??

 

This makes no sense.

 

They didn't pick up excess salary. It's not like they had to dig into their pockets to pay extra salary. You provides salary relief, not extra salary. Not sure what you mean with this.

 

Instead of having $6mm to spend at the deadline, they now have $8mm.

 

And we just have to agree to disagree. If the Red Sox gave Youkilis to an NL team, paid all of his salary, and got zippo in return, people would have lost their s***, and rightfully so.

I was joking about the Scutaro money washing with the Youk salary dump. BTW they have $7 million not $8. They got $1 million for Youk, not $2 million. And don't expect any spending at the deadline. Ain't gonna happen. For the stinking $1 million, as a fan, I'd rather him be playing in Chavez Ravine for the rest of the season.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I was joking about the Scutaro money washing with the Youk salary dump. BTW they have $7 million not $8. They got $1 million for Youk' date=' not $2 million. And don't expect any spending at the deadline. Ain't gonna happen. For the stinking $1 million, as a fan, I'd rather him be playing in Chavez Ravine for the rest of the season.[/quote']

 

It's still $2mm, just because $1mm for the option doesn't mean it doesn't count.

 

And I will gladly make a sig bet with you that the Sox pick up salary at the deadline.

[a700hitter]

Huh??

 

This makes no sense.

 

They didn't pick up excess salary. It's not like they had to dig into their pockets to pay extra salary. You provides salary relief, not extra salary. Not sure what you mean with this.

 

Instead of having $6mm to spend at the deadline, they now have $8mm.

 

And we just have to agree to disagree. If the Red Sox gave Youkilis to an NL team, paid all of his salary, and got zippo in return, people would have lost their s***, and rightfully so.

I figured that we would get nothing of value for him, so I would not have been disappointed at all. Did anyone really think we would get anything for him? This is the question you asked me yesterday. My answer is still no, and that's why I would have preferred he'd gone to the NL. If he beats us just one game in July in the 4 game series, I figure that the deal cost us more than we got.

[a700hitter]

It's still $2mm, just because $1mm for the option doesn't mean it doesn't count.

 

And I will gladly make a sig bet with you that the Sox pick up salary at the deadline.

It doesn't count if he hits and Chicago exercises his option. It doesn't hit this year's payroll even if Chicago buys him out. It is not current savings.

[NativeBostonian]

Do you guys think with the acquirement of Brent Lillibridge (who can play the outfield) means the end for McTurd? I hear he is an above average defender.

[a700hitter]

Do you guys think with the acquirement of Brent Lillibridge (who can play the outfield) means the end for McTurd? I hear he is an above average defender.

I wouldn't count on it.

[Bellhorn04]

Do you guys think with the acquirement of Brent Lillibridge (who can play the outfield) means the end for McTurd? I hear he is an above average defender.

 

I was thinking it might mean a Punto trade.

[a700hitter]

It's still $2mm, just because $1mm for the option doesn't mean it doesn't count.

 

And I will gladly make a sig bet with you that the Sox pick up salary at the deadline.

Okay. But they have to pick up all $7 million on the current 2012 payroll.

[a700hitter]

I was thinking it might mean a Punto trade.

Lillibridge is not a good MIFer.

[NativeBostonian]

I was thinking it might mean a Punto trade.

 

Who would want him? I would just put the guy on waivers.

[a700hitter]

Who would want him? I would just put the guy on waivers.

LOL!! Good point

[SoxFanForsyth]

It doesn't count if he hits and Chicago exercises his option. It doesn't hit this year's payroll even if Chicago buys him out. It is not current savings.

 

This doesn't make sense either.

 

Chicago's decision to/not to exercise his option doesn't affect the fact that the Red Sox were on the hook for at least $1mm next season, which they will not have to pay now. If you look at it from the vantage point that the savings will be decided based on the White Sox decision, then you could argue that the Red Sox would save $14mm total if they exercise his $13mm option.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Okay. But they have to pick up all $7 million on the current 2012 payroll.

 

They already picked up Ross with $3mm. So they now have $4-5mm available from the two trades.

[NativeBostonian]

I wouldn't count on it.

 

I don't know why they are so in love with the guy. He does have some flashes of being able to be an average player. But, for the most part, he doesn't do anything. To top it all off he drops more balls then an outfielder on the Bad News Bears.

[Bellhorn04]

Who would want him? I would just put the guy on waivers.

 

Somebody will want him. He's been an average utility player for years. You're not going to get much for him obviously.

[a700hitter]

This doesn't make sense either.

 

Chicago's decision to/not to exercise his option doesn't affect the fact that the Red Sox were on the hook for at least $1mm next season, which they will not have to pay now. If you look at it from the vantage point that the savings will be decided based on the White Sox decision, then you could argue that the Red Sox would save $14mm total if they exercise his $13mm option.

It doesn't affect the 2012 payroll.

[a700hitter]

They already picked up Ross with $3mm. So they now have $4-5mm available from the two trades.

Don't be a weasel. Ross's money was committed before thewy dumped Scoots or Youk. We are talking about redeploying the savings on the salary dumps. Otherwisew, why not count Ortiz's raise and AGon's raise too?

[SoxFanForsyth]

Don't be a weasel. Ross's money was committed before thewy dumped Scoots or Youk. We are talking about redeploying the savings on the salary dumps. Otherwisew' date=' why not count Ortiz's raise and AGon's raise too?[/quote']

 

What? No it wasn't. In fact, Cherrington said they were able to go get Ross because they freed up the money from Scutaro.