Youk to White Sox

[BornToRun]

Per someone on Twitter that I forget' date=' Lillibridge is headed to Boston and Stewart is going to AAA.[/quote']

 

Good. Maybe Brent's ability to play the outfield allows us to dump DMac for someone who doesnt suck.

[a700hitter]

We could've gotten Jake Peavy for youk and people would still bitch.

I don't see me bitching about that.

[Twinssoxfan]

As someone in Minnesota that is also a Red Sox fans, this deal is terrible. Yes Youk has declined, but to get another Nick Punto, and a AAA pitcher at best in Stewart, plus eating all but 2Mil of Youk's remaining salary is terrible. I didn't expect to get anything spectacular, but was hoping for something atleast serviceable.

 

Thank you for your time Youk, you will be missed. You were class act that busted your ass each and every time you took the field.

 

On a bright side for me, as someone that lives in Minnesota, i'll get to see Youk a lot more since the Twins play the White Sux quite a bit.

[a700hitter]

Good. Maybe Brent's ability to play the outfield allows us to dump DMac for someone who doesnt suck.

Which gives brent about 3 weeks or less with the Sox, cause he'll be the first one cut when CC comes back.

[Youk Of The Nation]

I remember those plays. They were on back to back plays. What OFer do we cut to keep him?

 

McDonald. The answer is always McDonald.

[Cocos Disciples]

Good news guys. I was worried that the Sox would now be deprived of a Jewish player. But Ryan Kalish is Jewish! Everyone can relax.

[BornToRun]

I will ask again. What did you all expect to get for him? What? It wasn't going to be much I guarantee you.

[a700hitter]

This is an opportunity for people to critique the FO. Hence, they will do it. SBF will be calling him Cherinpuke or whatever within moments, and I'm anticipating a Ben the Boob reference soon.

 

Even though the team Cherington has constructed has overcome so many injuries and now has a depth in the OF that nobody would have expected, he will still be ridiculed because other people could do a better job from the safety of their keyboards.

The safety of their keyboards? What is Cherington doing... taking incoming artillery? Please! The biggest problem that I have with this move is that if you were going to give away Youk-- and make no mistake they gave him away-- give him to an NL team. It baffles me that they traded him to a team that we still have to play and that is fighting for a Wild card berth. Were these guys so much better than nothing that we had to make Youk a competitor? That's the issue for me, but probably one of those little details that Benny overlooked. The danger of his GM suite at Fenway probably compromised his judgment.

[BornToRun]

Which gives brent about 3 weeks or less with the Sox' date=' cause he'll be the first one cut when CC comes back.[/quote']

 

You don't know that. If he plays well nothing says that DMac/ the guy who may take his spot won't be the odd man out.

 

I love how I'm seeing sox fans say we're not getting anything for youk as if he isn't a past his prime 33 year old hitting .220.

[a700hitter]

McDonald. The answer is always McDonald.

And who when Crawford returns or Sweeney?

[redsoxfan3]

I didn't think we would get anything good in return for Youk. I also figured that we would have to eat the majority of his contract. He is injury prone and he has struggled this year offensively. There was not much we could do in this situation. We needed to trade him to allow Middlebrooks to start 3B regularly. The only bad thing about this trade is that Youk could possibly go to the White Sox, stay healthy, and contribute enough for them to make a run at the WC. The upside is that we do not have to play Gonzalez in the OF and Middlebrooks can now take over 3B full time. This got rid of a huge problem. I am not happy with what we got in return. I honestly was just hoping for one decent prospect that has a little potential. There is an upside to both Stewart and Lillibridge, but I really hope both go to AAA at some point. Cherington got the job done. We all knew Youk was getting traded for almost nothing. Maybe Lillibridge or Stewart can somehow have some sort of positive impact with this team in the future. I am not banking on that. I fully expected that we were going to get nothing in return, and those who expected more should not have. No one should be disappointed with this. This was the best decision for Youk and for this organization.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I will ask again. What did you all expect to get for him? What? It wasn't going to be much I guarantee you.

This is BAHSTIN. Anything less than a superstar and/or top prospect in return for our struggling 33 year old CIF is unacceptable. Ben the Boob should be ashamed.

[a700hitter]

You don't know that. If he plays well nothing says that DMac/ the guy who may take his spot won't be the odd man out.

 

I love how I'm seeing sox fans say we're not getting anything for youk as if he isn't a past his prime 33 year old hitting .220.

After DMac goes, who goes when Sweeney and CC comeback?

 

Read my posts. My issue isn't that we got nothing for him. My issue is that if we were going to get nothing for him, send him to the NL where he can't stick it up our ass as we compete with the White Sox for a Wild Card.

[BornToRun]

I didn't think we would get anything good in return for Youk. I also figured that we would have to eat the majority of his contract. He is injury prone and he has struggled this year offensively. There was not much we could do in this situation. We needed to trade him to allow Middlebrooks to start 3B regularly. The only bad thing about this trade is that Youk could possibly go to the White Sox' date=' stay healthy, and contribute enough for them to make a run at the WC. The upside is that we do not have to play Gonzalez in the OF and Middlebrooks can now take over 3B full time. This got rid of a huge problem. I am not happy with what we got in return. I honestly was just hoping for one decent prospect that has a little potential. There is an upside to both Stewart and Lillibridge, but I really hope both go to AAA at some point. Cherington got the job done. We all knew Youk was getting trade for almost nothing. Maybe Lillibridge or Stewart can somehow have some sort of positive impact with this team in the future. I am not expecting that. The fully expected that we were going to get nothing in return, and those who expected more should not have. No one should be disappointed with this. This was the best decision for Youk and for this organization.[/quote']

 

Here's the question though. Is the chance of youk suddenly returning to form and leading the white sox over us to a playoff spot any greater than lillibridge being a solid utility man and Stewart turning into a serviceable bullpen arm or spot start, perhaps more?

[BornToRun]

After DMac goes, who goes when Sweeney and CC comeback?

 

Read my posts. My issue isn't that we got nothing for him. My issue is that if we were going to get nothing for him, send him to the NL where he can't stick it up our ass as we compete with the White Sox for a Wild Card.

 

My guess is that a reliever will go and after that, I'm not sure. Depends on how well Brent plays. Depends on what happens in the coming weeks.

[a700hitter]

I didn't think we would get anything good in return for Youk. I also figured that we would have to eat the majority of his contract. He is injury prone and he has struggled this year offensively. There was not much we could do in this situation. We needed to trade him to allow Middlebrooks to start 3B regularly. The only bad thing about this trade is that Youk could possibly go to the White Sox' date=' stay healthy, and contribute enough for them to make a run at the WC. The upside is that we do not have to play Gonzalez in the OF and Middlebrooks can now take over 3B full time. This got rid of a huge problem. I am not happy with what we got in return. I honestly was just hoping for one decent prospect that has a little potential. There is an upside to both Stewart and Lillibridge, but I really hope both go to AAA at some point. Cherington got the job done. We all knew Youk was getting traded for almost nothing. Maybe Lillibridge or Stewart can somehow have some sort of positive impact with this team in the future. I am not banking on that. I fully expected that we were going to get nothing in return, and those who expected more should not have. No one should be disappointed with this. This was the best decision for Youk and for this organization.[/quote']He should have been traded to an NL team. When we parted ways with Manny, they had the good sense to send him to the other league.

[VA Sox Fan]

Good news guys. I was worried that the Sox would now be deprived of a Jewish player. But Ryan Kalish is Jewish! Everyone can relax.

 

Thank goodness! I was worried. Phew!

[a700hitter]

My guess is that a reliever will go and after that' date=' I'm not sure. Depends on how well Brent plays. Depends on what happens in the coming weeks.[/quote']So we will carry 6 OFers? I doubt that.

[redsoxbeatz]

I will ask again. What did you all expect to get for him? What? It wasn't going to be much I guarantee you.

 

But we basically gave WSox 11mm and Youk and received punto for it.

 

Makes me wonder what everyone else was offering.

 

Obviously the best Part of the trade is WMB is everyday 3b and Gonzo back to 1b.

 

Now just hope WMB stay hot and gives trout a run for AL rookie o the year and gonzo swings again (he may be yanking our chain as of recent so we will see).

[VA Sox Fan]

He should have been traded to an NL team. When we parted ways with Manny' date=' they had the good sense to send him to the other league.[/quote']

 

I believe that was their intention. It didn't work out. So be it. Done and done. Move forward. Time to let it go. One day at a time. It is what it is.......

[a700hitter]

I believe that was their intention. It didn't work out. So be it. Done and done. Move forward. Time to let it go. One day at a time. It is what it is.......

Until he sticks it up our ass in July.

[redsoxbeatz]

In 7 years when the sox shed the horrid contracts of Gonzo & CC none of this Youk will matter.

 

Now the drama is past. Hopefully CC and Gonzo just prove themselves to be worth at least half of their contracts.

[redsoxfan3]

After DMac goes, who goes when Sweeney and CC comeback?

 

Read my posts. My issue isn't that we got nothing for him. My issue is that if we were going to get nothing for him, send him to the NL where he can't stick it up our ass as we compete with the White Sox for a Wild Card.

 

That is very true and a good point. If they for some reason make the WC over us, then this trade will be looked at as a failure on Cherington's part. He should have been traded to the NL. I am wondering if Stewart and Lillibridge were really the best two players that teams offered us. The other teams must have offered us complete garbage. These two guys are already pretty bad as it is. Let's just hope that the White Sox cannot make the playoffs.

 

Here's the question though. Is the chance of youk suddenly returning to form and leading the white sox over us to a playoff spot any greater than lillibridge being a solid utility man and Stewart turning into a serviceable bullpen arm or spot start' date=' perhaps more?[/quote']

 

That is the thing. Youk might actually be a decent player with the White Sox. He needed to get out of Boston. Nobody is expecting him to be great, but he has a chance to start fresh. I think there is a decent chance that he could turn things around with the White Sox. We all know that Youk was struggling in Boston and as he is getting older, he seems to being more prone to getting injuries. That is a chance the White Sox are taking for virtually nothing. They are paying the guy 3 million for the rest of the year and we had to spend 4 million for his contract for the rest of the year and included 1 million for the buyout for the team option for next year. If he can produce, the White Sox come out of this trade very happy.

 

I don't know if you can really compare the two situations. It is hard to predict any of those questions. Youk performing well is a big question mark. Lillibridge had an okay year last year and is playing horrible this year. I guess there is a little upside there, but I don't think anyone is expecting him to be anything more than a bench utility player. From what I have heard, Stewart used to have some potential, but he hasn't shown it. To predict that either of these two guys would exceed expectations is tough to do.

[VA Sox Fan]

Until he sticks it up our ass in July.

 

He'll be on the DL by then.

[BornToRun]

So we will carry 6 OFers? I doubt that.

 

Lillibridge can play the infield too. Apparently he can handle every position except catcher. That's a valuable asset to have.

[redsoxfan3]

Lillibridge can play the infield too. Apparently he can handle every position except catcher. That's a valuable asset to have.

 

That is true. He seems to be flexible, but the thing that kills him is his offense.

[SemperFi Sox]

he can handle everything except hitting.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Lillibridge can play the infield too. Apparently he can handle every position except catcher. That's a valuable asset to have.

 

There have been plenty of guys who can handle every position except pitcher/catcher. Guess where they all are? AAA, or selling cars, because they hit like someone teaching their grandkids to play wiffle ball.

[Youk Of The Nation]

I could have made that point first if I wasn't such a smartass.

[BornToRun]

But we basically gave WSox 11mm and Youk and received punto for it.

 

Makes me wonder what everyone else was offering.

 

Obviously the best Part of the trade is WMB is everyday 3b and Gonzo back to 1b.

 

Now just hope WMB stay hot and gives trout a run for AL rookie o the year and gonzo swings again (he may be yanking our chain as of recent so we will see).

 

We're paying 5.5 mil. That saves us a total of a little over 2 mil because Chicago picks up his option or buyout.

 

We have Gonzo, a perennial MVP caliber player, back at his natural position starting to heat up and WMB getting a chance to play every day with a younger, more versatile player filling the role youk would have played had we held onto him. Not to mention a young arm who was a nice prospect not too long ago.