Ross out with foot fracture

[KCBRUIN]

Cody Ross was quickly becoming one of my favorite players, this sucks.

[seabeachfred]

Coco hated playing here. Can he veto a trade?

 

And I hated him playing in Boston because he was a total three year bum with the bat. When we have to think of him and now stuck with Darling Darnell McDogshit for God knows how much longer I am all for putting A-Gon in the outfield and Papi on first and calling up Lavarnway to DH. Lin cannot hit, Coco cannot hit and lost his job in KC and Oakland so he is still a bum and McDonald can't do anything. Here's hoping Sweeney gets back and how the hell much longer is it going to be before tin man Ellsbury gets his paper mache ass back in the lineup?

[BornToRun]

Are we still buying the fragile Ellsbury ********?

[mvp 78]

And I hated him playing in Boston because he was a total three year bum with the bat. When we have to think of him and now stuck with Darling Darnell McDogshit for God knows how much longer I am all for putting A-Gon in the outfield and Papi on first and calling up Lavarnway to DH. Lin cannot hit' date=' Coco cannot hit and lost his job in KC and Oakland so he is still a bum and McDonald can't do anything. Here's hoping Sweeney gets back and how the hell much longer is it going to be before tin man Ellsbury gets his paper mache ass back in the lineup?[/quote']

 

Except Lavs isn't having a great year. It'd be WMB at 3b, Youk 1b, AGon RF.

[User Name]

Are we still buying the fragile Ellsbury ********?

 

+1

[SoxFanForsyth]

Are we still buying the fragile Ellsbury ********?

 

It's mind boggling, isn't it? Guy has a separated shoulder in his power shoulder and people call him soft.

 

It's just pure ignorance. Wish some of these guys would have a subluxed shoulder. Bet they wouldn't even play slow pitch softball, much less baseball at its most competitive level.

 

It actually really pisses me off. Did we not learn anything from 2010?? And these are the same people who would destroy Ellsbury if he came back injured and hit .120 because he couldn't swing, and say 'send him to AAA, he's lost it.'

 

Absolutely bleeping ridiculous.

[wyo-sox]

This does suck. I was really really pleased with Ross and Sweeney as replacements for Ells and CC. Pretty important for Ells to come back. My gut tells me not to expect much from CC.

[VA Sox Fan]

Are we still buying the fragile Ellsbury ********?

 

Certain members of the fan base are.

[a700hitter]

Are we still buying the fragile Ellsbury ********?

When you miss major parts of 2 of the last 3 season in just a 5 year career, you have earned the designation of "injury prone.". Does that mean that he is a wimp? No, there's no reason to single him out. They are all pampered princesses who will not return to play until trhey are 100% healed. If he could play at 60%, he'd be 50% better than Marlon Byrd or Lin. Thatks why the old-timers played hurt, because the healthy replacements were not as good as the injured stars. Today it is all about the individual and not the team. It's about the next contract, not winning. At this point, I am pretty sure that Ellsbury and Crawford could be playing. The sore elbow thing by CC kills me. How many high stress throws does he have to make each game? Are they fragile? No, they are pampered.

[Dojji]

I'd rather have a healthy Nava out there than an injured Ellsbury. It's only the fact that we're into the 6th and 7th spots in our depth chart ( which no team should plan to see regularly) that makes this even an issue. If you had a healthy Sweeney and Ross, they and Nava should have been adequate to be going on with.

[User Name]

When you miss major parts of 2 of the last 3 season in just a 5 year career' date=' you have earned the designation of "injury prone.". Does that mean that he is a wimp? No, there's no reason to single him out. They are all pampered princesses who will not return to play until trhey are 100% healed. If he could play at 60%, he'd be 50% better than Marlon Byrd or Lin. Thatks why the old-timers played hurt, because the healthy replacements were not as good as the injured stars. Today it is all about the individual and not the team. It's about the next contract, not winning. At this point, I am pretty sure that Ellsbury and Crawford could be playing. The sore elbow thing by CC kills me. How many high stress throws does he have to make each game? Are they fragile? No, they are pampered.[/quote']

 

^Easy to say sitting on your couch. Also, Ellsbury has not been cleared by medical professionals to resume baseball activities, but apparently, our couch baseball expert here knows better.

[a700hitter]

I'd rather have a healthy Nava out there than an injured Ellsbury. It's only the fact that we're into the 6th and 7th spots in our depth chart ( which no team should plan to see regularly) that makes this even an issue. If you had a healthy Sweeney and Ross' date=' they and Nava should have been adequate to be going on with.[/quote']I would rather have 60% of Ellsbury than Byrd, or Lin or DMac. Nava is only 1/3 of the OF.

[Dojji]

The question is, would you be able to get any Ellsbury at all. There's a difference between being hurt and being injured. If he were bruised up he'd probably be out there, IIRC this is something a bit more structural.

[a700hitter]

The question is' date=' would you be able to get any Ellsbury at all. There's a difference between being hurt and being injured. If he were bruised up he'd probably be out there, IIRC this is something a bit more structural.[/quote']I am not a doctor and I have not reviewed his chart. I am familiar with the injury. I have had it myself and known several others with it. If they don't have to operate to stabilize the joint or do a manipulation to get to back in the socket, you can resume normal activity once you regain range of motion. Of course it takes longer to resume the rigors of professional sports. From what I understand, Ells has range of motion. He probably has some discomfort, but that's when I think he should be playing. He doesn't need to be from discomfort. He is not wearing a sling. He has resumed normal everyday activity. Do I know for sure that his arm is functional? No, but I have an idea of how long that takes and the stages of healing. You can play before you are free of pain and discomfort. I'm not singling out Ellsbury. They are all princesses. As I have said before, Yaz missed about 3 games when he separated his shoulder, and it hurt him for the rest of the season and it hurt his power for the remainder of his career.

[Laser Show]

Gonzo might have to suit up in RF in an AL game, wouldn't that be fun?

[Dojji]

Yaz missed about 3 games when he separated his shoulder' date=' and it hurt him for the rest of the season and it hurt his power for the remainder of his career.[/quote']

 

Which was really, really stupid and ultimately hurt both him and the team because we had him all the years he wasn't the old Yaz anymore.

 

Heck, if we have the old Yaz in 75 there's no reason we don't end the curse that year. It was close as it was. And we probably make the playoffs in 78 with one more elite hitter giving too big a margin of error for Bucky Dent to hurt us. That couple weeks of keeping Yaz in the field may have cost us as many as 2-3 good chances at a World Championship. Playing for a couple weeks 6 years before instead of resting his shoulder was NOT worth it. For anyone.

 

If you put 60% of Ellsbury out there now running the risk that the most of Ellsbury you'll ever see again is maybe 75% it's just not worth it.

[mvp 78]

Point invalidated by invoking "the curse."

 

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[kapsis21]

 

If you put 60% of Ellsbury out there now running the risk that the most of Ellsbury you'll ever see again is maybe 75% it's just not worth it.

 

100% agreed

[a700hitter]

Which was really, really stupid and ultimately hurt both him and the team because we had him all the years he wasn't the old Yaz anymore.

 

Heck, if we have the old Yaz in 75 there's no reason we don't end the curse that year. It was close as it was. And we probably make the playoffs in 78 with one more elite hitter giving too big a margin of error for Bucky Dent to hurt us. That couple weeks of keeping Yaz in the field may have cost us as many as 2-3 good chances at a World Championship. Playing for a couple weeks 6 years before instead of resting his shoulder was NOT worth it. For anyone.

 

If you put 60% of Ellsbury out there now running the risk that the most of Ellsbury you'll ever see again is maybe 75% it's just not worth it.

That Yaz that played hurt and healed while playing was the MVP of the playoffs against the 3 time defending champion Oakland A's. He made some unbelievable defensive plays and he hit something like .450 including a key HR against Vida Blue. Without Yaz, they don't' even get to the WS.

 

Sitting out longer wasn't going to make the long term healing any more complete. Anyone who has had a bad sprained ankle could tell you that it is never the same.

 

So, yeah I am happy that Yaz toughed it out and played through his injury, because without him we would have missed watching the 1975 World Series, and he played pretty darn well in that WS too.

 

As for 1978, Yaz's backup was likely to be Pot-Bellied Bob Bailey. Ten percent of Yaz was better than Bailey. I am glad Yaz taped up and went out and hit a second inning HR against the untouchable 25-3 Ron Guidry and he got another knock against Gossage. There was no one on the bench who could have done that for the team. You just don't know what you are talking about when you talk about Yaz.

[redsoxfan3]

With Ross out, I want us to keep Middlebrooks up and bring up Iglesias. Move Gonzalez to the OF on occasion and the days Gonzalez plays first, move Aviles to the OF. Give Middlebrooks the majority of playing time at 3B. Give Youk playing time at DH, 3B, and 1B. Let Papi play some 1B and DH. This could really help Youk atay healthy. We can still use his bat along with Will's bat in the lineup. This still gives Iglesias abd Middlebrooks some playing time. This will possibly allow us to get value back in a trade for Youk by the deadline. By that time Cc and Ells would probably be ready to return and we will have some depth back in the OF. Not to mention that Middlebrooks will tjen be our full time 3B (if we trade Youk) and Iglesias might be ready to take over full-time at SS, depending on how he does.

[redsox6770]

I would say with all these injuries we have reason to use the excuse well we have players injured and that would be a understatement but damn every replacement we have had for a injured player has stepped up. I would say at the moment pitching needs to improve and I hope clay can turn it around and Lester can get more batters out In later innings. I do miss Cody Ross though every time he bats it makes me think he's going yard or he is going down trying

[NativeBostonian]

With Ross out' date=' I want us to keep Middlebrooks up and bring up Iglesias. Move Gonzalez to the OF on occasion and the days Gonzalez plays first, move Aviles to the OF. Give Middlebrooks the majority of playing time at 3B. Give Youk playing time at DH, 3B, and 1B. Let Papi play some 1B and DH. This could really help Youk atay healthy. We can still use his bat along with Will's bat in the lineup. This still gives Iglesias abd Middlebrooks some playing time. This will possibly allow us to get value back in a trade for Youk by the deadline. By that time Cc and Ells would probably be ready to return and we will have some depth back in the OF. Not to mention that Middlebrooks will tjen be our full time 3B (if we trade Youk) and Iglesias might be ready to take over full-time at SS, depending on how he does.[/quote']

With the way the outfield has been getting injured do you really want to risk your star first baseman .

[jacksonianmarch]

Cherington is said to be leaning towards keeping Middlebrooks up with the club.

[redsoxbeatz]

This team is sustaining way too many injuries. Scrap the season and look forward to next. I don't think anything hasty should be done like putting Ellsbury back in the lineup too soon (if the injury really is this big of a concern for future Ells) or shifting Adrian to OF, or the Youklis-Blanton trade ideas which suck. I'd rather hang on to Youk till the offseason.

 

point being, unless ells and cc return to full form then this season is scrapped due to injuries.

[Laser Show]

This team is sustaining way too many injuries. Scrap the season and look forward to next. I don't think anything hasty should be done like putting Ellsbury back in the lineup too soon (if the injury really is this big of a concern for future Ells) or shifting Adrian to OF, or the Youklis-Blanton trade ideas which suck. I'd rather hang on to Youk till the offseason.

 

point being, unless ells and cc return to full form then this season is scrapped due to injuries.

 

Whoa there.. No need to raise the white flag. We're 8-2 over the last 10. We've got the 2nd best offense in baseball, our bullpen has a 3.63 ERA, and we're at .500, tied with the Yankees.

 

It's not pretty, but we're definitely still in it.

[Spitball]

Red Sox activate Kevin Youkilis

 

Updated: May 22, 2012, 4:20 PM ET

By Gordon Edes | ESPNBoston.com

 

BALTIMORE -- Tuesday's Boston Red Sox lineup is out, and it answers several questions about how the team will handle its myriad of injuries.

 

Gordon Edes and the rest of the ESPNBoston.com team have the Red Sox covered for you. Blog

 

For starters, Kevin Youkilis, as expected, was activated off the disabled list. He's hitting fifth Tuesday against the Baltimore Orioles and playing first base. The regular first baseman, Adrian Gonzalez, is in right field and hitting fourth.

 

That move allows the team to keep rookie Will Middlebrooks in the lineup at third base (and hitting sixth) instead of sending him down to Triple-A Pawtucket.

 

Gonzalez has played right field in two games so far this season, both interleague contests against the Phillies over the weekend. The move allowed the team to keep designated hitter David Ortiz in the lineup in a National League park by shifting him to first base.

 

Outfielder Cody Ross (broken bone in foot) is headed to the disabled list, possibly joined there by Ryan Sweeney, who suffered a mild concussion Saturday night in Philadelphia and has not played in the last two games.

 

Ross will become the sixth Red Sox outfielder on the DL, joining Carl Crawford, Jacoby Ellsbury, Darnell McDonald, Ryan Kalish and Jason Repko.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Sean McAdam ‏@Sean_McAdam

Foot injury for Ross may not be as serious as 1st thought. Small break might be old; he's feeling much better today. Waiting for 2nd opinion

 

This could be fantastic news. Especially with Price coming in town soon.

[a700hitter]

This could be fantastic news. Especially with Price coming in town soon.

Has he been DL'd yet?

[SoxFanForsyth]

Has he been DL'd yet?

 

Nope. Still waiting on 2nd opinion.

 

Valentine said he's "Feeling so much better today".

[a700hitter]

Nope. Still waiting on 2nd opinion.

 

Valentine said he's "Feeling so much better today".

If it is hairline and non-displaced, get the swelling down, tape him up and send him out. It'll heal.