5/9 @ Kansas City

[TheBardoftheBullpen51]

He may have some speed' date=' but he is a stupid base runner. He's got to tag and go on that. The OFer hit the ground. That gives him almost a full 1 second break off the base. Chances are that Gordon's throw hits him.[/quote']

 

Gordon led the AL in assist Macdime did the smart thing!

[a700hitter]

Red Sox suck. Again. Guess the Royals are the better team.

Good night all.

We can't take a series from a team playing .300 ball.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Gordon led the AL in assist Macdime did the smart thing!

 

No way. He dove for the ball. Darnell has got to take off. He didn't even get a good jump. He just froze. It was a terrible play by Darnell.

[Bellhorn04]

Wow' date=' this team is f***ed[/quote']

 

It really seems that way. They have now played .333 ball over 57 games.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

He may have some speed' date=' but he is a stupid base runner. He's got to tag and go on that. The OFer hit the ground. That gives him almost a full 1 second break off the base. Chances are that Gordon's throw hits him.[/quote']

 

He got a late break on the damn ball. Jesus christ. I hate McDonald like he's a Yankee. Get him out before I do.

[a700hitter]

No way. He dove for the ball. Darnell has got to take off. He didn't even get a good jump. He just froze. It was a terrible play by Darnell.

He was off the base before the catch. That should never happen. If the ball drops in, he is going to score anyway. You have to plant yourself on the bag and be ready to run when the ball touches the fielder's glove. It was brain dead play by a brain dead player.

[Mr Tibbs]

This is getting f***ing pathetic. CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME PITCHING??!!!

[SoxFanForsyth]

I'm ready to get rid of Marlon Byrd too. He cannot read a fly ball off of the bat. Where the hell is Lin?!? At least he can field.

 

Again. Iglesias up. Aviles to LF. DFA Darnell. It's simple.

[Bellhorn04]

The Sox are putting on a clinic in how to lose games. Every different way possible, even ones you never dreamed were possible, like getting beaten by a DH throwing 2 scoreless innings.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I'm also sick and tired of this late rally ******** that ends in nothing. They need to play like that all game Stop leaving people on base all the time too. We should have more than 3 runs. Today between the errors and inability to score runs when we should have gets me so pissed.

[NativeBostonian]

They're digging themselves one big ditch in the AL East.

[jung]

I don't think he would have made it home either. Like 700 said if he had been on the bag he would likely have made it home but he was caught in no mans land for no reason.

 

The Sox had their chances though...this is another game where they don't take full advantage of the opportunities that they have. It is like they think the gods of baseball are going to give them enough innings until they are finally ahead and then end the game right there.

 

Pedey had that at bat with a runner on...and swung at the very first pitch thrown to him to end that inning...Aviles had one good pitch to swing at in that last at bat (the second pitch of the at bat) and just let it go by. They are just playing such rotten baseball. Lousy defense every night, not enough offense some nights, not enough pitching most nights

 

NESN talking heads talkin about never having recovered from the first inning...against the Royals!!!! Pleassssseeeeee!

[Bellhorn04]

Are they trying to get Valentine fired? Seems like there has to be a logical explanation somewhere. He's starting to look old and weary. Wouldn't be a shock if he quit.

[SoxFanForsyth]

They're digging themselves one big ditch in the AL East.

 

Oh the AL East is not even in the discussion right now. The Wild Card is not in the discussion right now.

 

This season is borderline over, and I'm not being sarcastic. They'll make a late push, but it won't be close to being enough.

 

This team is on pace to be a 65 win team. I'm telling you. This team looks like the 2011 Minnesota Twins.

 

Twins in 2010: 94-68

Twins through 30 Games in 2011: 12-18

Twins in 2011: 63-99

 

Sound familiar?

[Station 13]

I'd rather book a flight to Salem tomorrow to watch Matt Barnes.

[SoxFanForsyth]

It's gotten so bad that every morning, I look forward more to checking the PawSox and Salem Red Sox stats to see how guys like Iglesias, Lavarnway, Bradley, Bogaerts, and Barnes have done than I do to the games that the Sox have.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I actually cannot fathom that the FO has let it get to this without shaking things up.

 

It's been 30 games now. That's 18.5% of the season. Make a damn move. Get some excitement on this team. I dread having to watch these games right now. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. Make a damn move.

[jung]

Well I will say this in defense of V. I don't think in his wildest imagination this team would have played this badly for him or anybody else. I have not been a big V supporter but he walked into a hornets nest of Machiavellian front office politics and mismanagement combined with a clubhouse full of pampered children that refuse to play as a team. They don't appear to help each other. They don't appear to talk to each other. Seem to talk to the guys on the other team more than they talk to each other.

 

I would love to see one game where they were committed to forcing a good pitch to hit out of the pitcher every single at bat. Just make sure that every at bat they at least see one good pitch to hit. If the pitcher does not give up a good pitch to hit that is one thing. But so often they are just hackin' away at pitchers pitches and they are just not good enough to do that.

 

And if these are the pitchers we are going to have to go with then coaching is going to have to work harder with these guys to try to get them to pitch to whatever strengths they do have. Beckett is the only starter they have that knows enough about pitching to not need the help. The rest of them including Lester need a good deal of help.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Just a fitting end to this day.

[Bellhorn04]

Barring a rainout they don't have a day off until May 24.

 

4 against Cleveland starting tomorrow. With Beckett on the mound. Should be a warm reception.

[InfernoOrangeSS]

Just playing bad baseball right now. Makes it painful to watch. I don't know what the answer is going to be. I definitely do not see us doing anything this year unless there is some sort of change. I just don't know what that change needs to be.

 

:thumbdown

[Bellhorn04]

Holy s***, D-Lowe is starting for the Guardians tomorrow. Perfect.

[FredLynn]

I actually cannot fathom that the FO has let it get to this without shaking things up.

 

It's been 30 games now. That's 18.5% of the season. Make a damn move. Get some excitement on this team. I dread having to watch these games right now. It's not fun. It's not enjoyable. Make a damn move.

 

They might make a move, but there is no single move that can fix this mess. I mean, its nearly the whole pitching staff that needs to be replaced. Of the current pitching staff I would keep Bard (as a reliever), Doubront (as a low paid #5 SP), Lester (as my #3 SP), and Aceves. Thats pretty much it, really. The rest of those guys either have insufficient talent to play for my contending club or are poison in the clubhouse. For position player: Pedey, Gonzo, Ellsbury, and Middlebrooks. Maybe Aviles. Thats pretty much it. Thats nine players out of 26 (I include Youkilis as #26). Furthermore, the entire FO and manager should go. This will take a long long time, longer than I had previously thought. At the beginning of the year I though that maybe in 2014 we could have a very good team. But it will probably take even longer. And the longer there is inaction, the longer it will take to clean this septic tank.

[FredLynn]

Barring a rainout they don't have a day off until May 24.

 

4 against Cleveland starting tomorrow. With Beckett on the mound. Should be a warm reception.

 

Its almost worth paying the price of admission just to go and boo these losers.

[Bellhorn04]

Just playing bad baseball right now. Makes it painful to watch. I don't know what the answer is going to be. I definitely do not see us doing anything this year unless there is some sort of change. I just don't know what that change needs to be.

 

:thumbdown

 

It seems clear that the only possible change is a major transition away from this team we're seeing right now. That would include a few shocker trades like Beckett and Youk. Needless to say, they absolutely have to get something of value back. Can they do it? Who knows.

[TylerD]

I didn't see the game today. What can you really say...... This team is hitting rock bottom. We play the Guardians now. Anyone have any confidence we can win a game in that series lol?

[SoxFanForsyth]

They might make a move' date=' but there is no single move that can fix this mess. I mean, its nearly the whole pitching staff that needs to be replaced. Of the current pitching staff I would keep Bard (as a reliever), Doubront (as a low paid #5 SP), Lester (as my #3 SP), and Aceves. Thats pretty much it, really. The rest of those guys either have insufficient talent to play for my contending club or are poison in the clubhouse. For position player: Pedey, Gonzo, Ellsbury, and Middlebrooks. Maybe Aviles. Thats pretty much it. Thats nine players out of 26 (I include Youkilis as #26). Furthermore, the entire FO and manager should go. This will take a long long time, longer than I had previously thought. At the beginning of the year I though that maybe in 2014 we could have a very good team. But it will probably take even longer. And the longer there is inaction, the longer it will take to clean this septic tank.[/quote']

 

I'm saying call up some young guys. Iglesias. Lavarnway. Get them in these games. At least with those kids up we can start to absorb some of the lumps that rookies have. That way, next year when this team has a chance to compete, we will have already gone through some of the development issues. Don't just waste this season by blindly and ignorantly thinking that this is a PS caliber team bc they're not. Given its almost exclusively due to injuries but that's beside the point.

[Bellhorn04]

I'm saying call up some young guys. Iglesias. Lavarnway. Get them in these games. At least with those kids up we can start to absorb some of the lumps that rookies have. That way' date=' next year when this team has a chance to compete, we will have already gone through some of the development issues. Don't just waste this season by blindly and ignorantly thinking that this is a PS caliber team bc they're not. Given its almost exclusively due to injuries but that's beside the point.[/quote']

 

The terrible pitching doesn't have much to do with injuries. Overall the pitching staff has been healthy, unless you mean Lackey and Dice-K.

[redsoxfan3]

What is most frustrating about the last two losses is that they should have been wins. Two days ago Bobby V should have went with another pitcher other than Albers. Yesterday we could have ended the first inning by not giving up any runs if Byrd makes that catch. It is stupid mistakes and the little things are killing us right now. There is no doubt in my mind that we will turn this season around. I know we will not finish below .500 this year. We will get things going. We need to start against the Tribe. Take one game at a time and play professional baseball like everyone on this team knows how to.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The terrible pitching doesn't have much to do with injuries. Overall the pitching staff has been healthy' date=' unless you mean Lackey and Dice-K.[/quote']

 

It all trickles down.

 

If we have Bailey, then we don't have Aceves trying to overthrow. We have the Aceves we have now who is utilizing movement and location and less on velocity. With Bailey, we win the Yankee game and the Tigers game, at least. If we have one of DiceK or Lackey, Bard is in the bullpen. That makes another huge difference to have a big swing and miss guy who can get out of big situations.

 

If we have Ellsbury and Crawford, we have an outfield who catches that fly ball in game 1 against Detroit that Ross barely missed. That gives this team the lead in the 9th with Bailey coming out to close. If we have Ellsbury we have an OF who catches that ball against the Royals both in Bards start and in Lester's start. Not to mention we have guys who can get on base and swipe bags and generate runs in close game. Think about every AB vs RHP that we have Ross hitting, every AB vs LHP that we have DMac hitting, and every AB that Byrd has. Those at bats would all be replaced by Crawford and Ellsbury. And you wouldn't have a guy with a .300 OBP in Aviles leading off either.

 

Again, it all trickles down. Pitches throw significantly better when they are handed a lead and they feel like they can be more aggressive. It has a huge trickle down effect.