4/25 @ Twins

[SoxFanForsyth]

Hey Nostradamus of talksox' date=' how about you actually let the game finish before saying the game is over.[/quote']

 

I appreciate that.

 

Hey. We all thought that game was over. I can't help that the bullpen has pulled the rug out from under my feet too many times this season for me to have faith in them.

[iortiz]

That's because he's not a very good pitcher. "Closer" isn't some magical, mystical being......it's a good pitcher. Aceves isn't one.

 

Just my opinion.

 

He is a good reliever but he is not a closer. Just a a few can close. He doesn't have the profile/tools/balls/character/etc.

 

Just my opinion.

[Dojji]

I'm almost positive you have no emotions.

 

 

Are you a robot?

 

No. I just watch hockey. Lil numb right now.

[Station 13]

The last 4 hour is like an eternity of depression.

[Dojji]

That's because he's not a very good pitcher. "Closer" isn't some magical, mystical being......it's a good pitcher. Aceves isn't one.

 

Just my opinion.

 

Aceves is fine. I expect him to sort his game out and get to roughly his career level by the end of the year.

 

You people are letting the fact that we no longer have Papelbon back there get to you more than it should.

[RedSoxNC84]

No. I just watch hockey.

 

Makes sense.

[Dojji]

Yeah I'm a lil numb right now. and coming off an ACTUAL stressful game watching people ACTUALLY under perform, so I have a pretty good idea what that looks like and how silly you guys are being.

[ORS]

He is a good reliever but he is not a closer. Just a a few can close. He doesn't have the profile/tools/balls/character/etc.

 

Just my opinion.

The comment that, " just a few can close", is what I'm talking about. It is not some intangible skill. Those that can all have an identifiable skill, which is something Aceves lacks.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I appreciate that.

 

Hey. We all thought that game was over. I can't help that the bullpen has pulled the rug out from under my feet too many times this season for me to have faith in them.

 

The BP no doubt was s*** tonight. They deserved to be exposed. A runner gets on base though and you can't assume the game is over. My post was not a direct shot at you but to everyone who calles the game earl. Just let a ride. If we lose then dish it out.

 

The game is over. We won. None of this matters anymore. Let's all be happy and pray for a similar result with the White Sox.

[ORS]

Aceves is fine. I expect him to sort his game out and get to roughly his career level by the end of the year.

 

You people are letting the fact that we no longer have Papelbon back there get to you more than it should.

I'm not pining for Papelbon, but Aceves is not a very good pitcher.

[RedSoxNC84]

I'm not pining for Papelbon' date=' but Aceves is not a very good pitcher.[/quote']

 

Whats with all these other teams having no-namers closing and doing well, while our closer has an ERA of 18.00?

[FredLynn]

Yeah I'm a lil numb right now. and coming off an ACTUAL stressful game watching people ACTUALLY under perform' date=' so I have a pretty good idea what that looks like and how silly you guys are being.[/quote']

 

Yup. The Bruins game was a real bummer. Truth be told, they really didn't play well after November. Pretty mediocre for the most part. Had a little flurry to finish the season, but Dec/Jan/Feb were not good.

[jung]

NESN nitwits..."lets get to the good news from the bullpen"

 

and what would that be

- Padilla to the DL

- Tazawa apparently in V's doghouse or something

- V bringing in Atch to get out of a jam and pitch to the two best LH hitters the Twins have when he is clearly not that kind of relief pitcher

- Thomas near decapitating somebody

- Aceves still clearly throwing instead of pitching having only had two occasions so far when you could call what he is doing out there pitching

 

Is that the good news from the pen the NESN boys want to talk about?

[FredLynn]

I'm not pining for Papelbon' date=' but Aceves is not a very good pitcher.[/quote']

 

Alfredo Aceves ERA up until this year when he was forced into a role he can't handle: 2.93

Thats a pretty good pitcher in my book. He simply isn't a closer.

[ORS]

Alfredo Aceves ERA up until this year when he was forced into a role he can't handle: 2.93

Thats a pretty good pitcher in my book. He simply isn't a closer.

Explain? I need to know what it takes to earn this mythical title.

[jung]

The only consolation for me with the Bruins is that you could tell they were not going anywhere this year. I kept wishful thinking and hoping but a few key injuries down the stretch really hurt them and Thomas frankly gave up to many soft goals including one tonight. He gave up none last year.

[User Name]

The comment that' date=' " just a few can close", is what I'm talking about. It is not some intangible skill. Those that can all have an identifiable skill, which is something Aceves lacks.[/quote']

 

Yet it's not some rare, once-in-a-generation skill as some would lead you to believe. What Aceves lacks is the stuff of a closer, which is why he's overthrowing. Good relievers emerge as closers all the time. That hasn't happened to the Sox because they don't have good pitchers in their BP.

[iortiz]

The comment that' date=' " just a few can close", is what I'm talking about. It is not some intangible skill. Those that can all have an identifiable skill, which is something Aceves lacks.[/quote']

 

IMO he should take the roll that he had last year. He is good in that roll. The problem is that our BP is disfunctional and somebody needs to close. Call me crazy but IMO Padilla could make it better. At least the guy has balls and doesn't care. Morales seems good as set up.

 

IMO this should be our BP's slots (I do not like it but it is what we have mostly if they keep Bard in the rotation)

 

Padilla (Closer)

Morales (Setup)

Aceves

Tazawa

Albers

Atchison

 

And that's it until they decide bring more arms.

[RedSoxNC84]

Padilla (Closer)

Morales (Setup)

Aceves

Tazawa

Albers

Atchison

 

And that's it until they decide bring more arms.

 

I cringe at the thought of Padilla closing.

 

Then again, he did it in LA...

[jung]

The Sox have the worlds supply of middle relief guys it seems but nobody that can pitch out of a jam and nobody that can close.

[RedSoxNC84]

Remember back when Cherington said Melancon may be the closer?

 

That makes me giggle

[a700hitter]

This bullpen is horrible. We will need MORE THAN SEVEN RUNS to win this game. Unbelievable. A six run lead in the sixth inning is not enough.

Last year Aceves and Bard took care of the 6th, 7th and 8th and Papelbon locked down the 9th. We could win games that were low scoring. Not gonna happen this year.

[jung]

Well I think you are going to find Padilla on his way to the DL and at this point if he stays I am more afraid of that than if he goes.

[RedSoxNC84]

Vicente "Aquaman" Padilla.. I wonder if he stays as wet looking off the mound as he does on.

[a700hitter]

Wow. This is like Saturday all over again.

 

I'm f***ing sick and tired of hearing Cherrington say "This bullpen will figure itself out. It always does"

 

No. It won't. This is the worst bullpen in baseball. It will figure out how to lose an 8 run lead and a 5 run lead and a 3 run lead + 2 run lead in the same game. This bullpen won't figure itself out because this bullpen needs arms.

If he is saying that, he is truly delusional. There is no talent in the pen.

[a700hitter]

Look at our bullpen!!!

 

Thomas was released BY THE PIRATES!!!!

Albers was released BY THE ORIOLES!!!!!

Aceves was released by the Yankees, and he's our closer!!!

Atchison has a 6.1 K/9 since joining the Red Sox!

Morales was traded to the Red Sox for the gum on the bottom of Theo's shoe.

Padilla is a nut who has injury problems and is wearing a f***ing dream catcher around his neck tonight!!!

 

This bullpen is full of no names. How can they expect this team to win?!?

This would be hysterically funny if it wasn't completely true.

[RedSoxNC84]

If he is saying that' date=' he is truly delusional. There is no talent in the pen.[/quote']

 

I guess we can go ahead and bring back "Ben the boob" or "bumbling Ben"

[RedSoxNC84]

I should grow my beard until the sox win the world series.. It'll be growing for another 86 years!

[ellsburyforMVP]

That's because he's not a very good pitcher. "Closer" isn't some magical, mystical being......it's a good pitcher. Aceves isn't one.

 

Just my opinion.

 

So what was your opinion about him last yr then??

 

I stick by my opinion that some guys just can't handle being the closer, no matter how good a pitcher they are

[Dojji]

The comment that' date=' " just a few can close", is what I'm talking about. It is not some intangible skill. Those that can all have an identifiable skill, which is something Aceves lacks.[/quote']

 

You're misinterpreting it. It's not that there's these mystical elite few who can close, it's the fact that you run into otherwise very skilled pitchers who can't, or can't get it done consistently. That's just a fact.