2011 Playoffs for granted?

[iortiz]

Well, as fans it often works that way I would say, We are reactionaries, and those attitudes are expected by a fan IMO.

[a700hitter]

People look at the devastating injuries and rationalize that they couldn't be foreseen and even if foreseen they couldn't do anything to prepare for them. I think this is a faulty rationalization, because if the Sox miss the playoffs they will only miss it by a game or 2. The FO didn't need to do a lot. They needed to provide some depth, not a total equal replacement. The fact is that Millwood might have been that depth-- that insurance, but they released him and never took the opportunity to see what he had. He only needed to be good enough to win 1 or 2 of those games that were sacrificed by sending Wakefield and Weiland to the mound. That's it. He didn't have to win 10 games or pitch to a 3.50 ERA. They let Millwood go and they signed a guy with a bad knee. They essentially did nothing to provide insurance or depth. You don't replace an injured player with another injured player. Theo screwed up. He takes part of the blame.

[a700hitter]

When the team makes the playoffs and rolls in the ALDS its gonna be "this team has the will to overcome injuries! I knew they were awesome!" and then when they lose in the ALCS its gonna be "f*** this team" again.

In the poll, I voted that they would still go all the way. I still think they have a very good shot at that, if they survive the regular season. If they don't survive and miss by a game or two, Theo gets a big part of the blame for not reinforcing the team. Tito gets some of the blame for games that he gave away with terrible managerial decision such as the damn 7 run rule and sticking with Bard in these last couple of games when he clearly did not have it. He never should have let Bard lose those games. If we lose by 1 or 2 games, it will be a long depressing off season thinking about what might have been.

[iortiz]

People look at the devastating injuries and rationalize that they couldn't be foreseen and even if foreseen they couldn't do anything to prepare for them. I think this is a faulty rationalization' date=' because if the Sox miss the playoffs they will only miss it by a game or 2. The FO didn't need to do alot. They needed to provide some depth, not a total equal replacement. The fact is that Millwood might have been that depth-- that insurance, but they released him and never took the opportunity to see what he had. He only needed to be good enough to win 1 or 2 of those games that were sacrificed by sending Wakefield and Weiland to the mound. That's it. He didn't have to win 10 games or pitch to a 3.50 ERA. They let Millwood go and they signed a guy with a bad knee. They essentially did nothing to provide insurance or depth. You don't replace an injured player with another injured player. Theo screwed up. He takes part of the blame.[/quote']

 

Exactly, and mostly since you already experimented an injured season . You have to make the planning/adjustments across all the departments of your organization in order to do not let this happen again.

[a700hitter]

Exactly' date=' and mostly since you already experimented an injured season . You have to make the planning/adjustments across all the departments of your organization in order to do not let this happen again.[/quote']Yes. You argue more convincingly in your second language than most posters do in their native English. I am in total agreement with you.

[iortiz]

Yes. You argue more convincingly in your second language than most posters do in their native English. I am in total agreement with you.

 

:thumbsup:

 

Nevertheless, some still blaming me and putting bad names on me, but they should read what is on my sig (Awesome movie BTW)...

[iortiz]

After all, still 2 GB and 10 to go, gentlemen.

 

We can't take the POs for granted anymore. We need to go game by game and play every remain game as if it means the entrance into the POs.

 

My odds. (probable pitchers according to ESPN)

 

BOS (4/10) (.400) BOS would finish with 91 W

 

vs 2-2

BAL Weiland (L)

BAL Lackey (L)

BAL Bedard (W)

BAL Beckett (W)

 

at 1-2

NY Lester (W)

NY Wake (L)

NY to be announced (L)

 

vs 1-3

BAL to be announced (L)

BAL to be announced (W)

BAL to be announced (L)

 

TB (6/10) (.600) TB would finish with 91 W

 

(2-2)

at NY Davis (10-9) Hughes (5-5) (W)

at NY Hellickson (13-10) Nova (15-4) (L)

at NY Shields (15-11) Sabathia (19-8) (L)

at NY Niemann (11-7) Colon (8-9) (W)

 

(2-1)

vs TOR Price (12-12) Morrow (10-11) (W)

vs TOR Davis (10-9) Romero (15-10) (L)

vs TOR to be announced (W)

 

(2-1)

vs NY to be announced (W)

vs NY to be announced (L)

vs NY to be announced (W)

 

If this is the scenario we wouldn't make the POs. I'm not sure where to put another W or give another L to TB, What do u think?

[Cocos Disciples]

^ Well, I guess we're done then.

 

I will give you my sig for 1 whole year if the Sox go 3-4 against the f***ing Orioles.

[iortiz]

Well, if we at least go 4-3 with the O's we'll make the POs.

 

BTW we still playing under .300 :harhar:

[Cocos Disciples]

BTW we still playing under .300 :harhar:

 

Not sure if the emoticon is supposed to indicate that you're happy about this. Regardless, they are playing like s***, yes, but I'd still be surprised if they miss the playoffs.

[iortiz]

Not sure if the emoticon is supposed to indicate that you're happy about this. Regardless' date=' they are playing like s***, yes, but I'd still be surprised if they miss the playoffs.[/quote']

 

Nope, just since you said at the begging of thread that we wouldn't play under .300 for the rest of the season and today is Sept 19th and we still playing under .300 and now you make this forecast about the O's.

 

I was just kidding about your first forecast given the second one, no big deal.

[iortiz]

The f***ing prophesy is turning into apocalypse.

 

I don't see how we could turn back, I simply don't see how.

 

As I said, the signs were there and our pitching made this tragedy possible.

[iortiz]

BTW

 

This team reminds me a novel that I read in my high-school days by Gabriel Garcia Marquez which title is "A Chronicle of a Death Foretold"

 

One of his best books.

[Cocos Disciples]

I will give you my sig for 1 whole year if the Sox go 3-4 against the f***ing Orioles.

 

Oops. iortiz, I'd get ready for this. At this point they'd be lucky to go 3-4.

[iortiz]

Oops. iortiz' date=' I'd get ready for this. At this point they'd be lucky to go 3-4.[/quote']

 

:thumbsup: :harhar:

[iortiz]

Coco, I'm gonna think in a good one.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Boston Red Sox pitcher John Lackey has filed to divorce his wife, Krista, who is in the middle of battling breast cancer, TMZ reports.

Lackey filed on August 30, according to court docs in Texas, claiming "the marriage has become insupportable because of discord or conflict of personalities."

Krista and John got married in November, 2008.

Sources close to the family tell TMZ that Krista underwent a double mastectomy in March and underwent chemotherapy as recently as June.

The divorce petition says John and Krista had a prenup. It also says Lackey has "separate property" he wants to keep for himself.

Lackey filed the divorce papers using only his and Krista's initials, a tactic Tony Parker and Eva Longoria, and Sandra Bullock and Jesse James, also used in their Texas divorces.

 

It's unclear why Lackey, who's struggled on the field all season long, didn't wait until the off-season, which for the reeling Red Sox could start in a week or so, to start divorce proceedings.

 

I mean, really??! Divorcing your wife who is battling breast cancer??

 

Papers filed on 8/30.

 

Red Sox Record since 8/30: 7-18

 

Damn. Karma is a bitch.

[Palodios]

I mean, really??! Divorcing your wife who is battling breast cancer??

 

Papers filed on 8/30.

 

Red Sox Record since 8/30: 7-18

 

Damn. Karma is a bitch.

 

I don't know, it feels like something is fishy here. A marriage with a pre-nup? I guess I feel like if I was her, I'd probably be saying to myself... life is shorter than I thought, why not find someone a little... less horse-like. Pure speculation here, but who knows, maybe that someone is a player on the Red Sox. Remember what happened to the Lakers here with Pau Gasol? Ugly ass man with a beautiful wife, divorce happens, rumors about an affair with a teammate.

 

As heartless as it sounds, I think that this divorce is in the best interest of the team.

[La Munson]

I don't know, it feels like something is fishy here. A marriage with a pre-nup? I guess I feel like if I was her, I'd probably be saying to myself... life is shorter than I thought, why not find someone a little... less horse-like. Pure speculation here, but who knows, maybe that someone is a player on the Red Sox. Remember what happened to the Lakers here with Pau Gasol? Ugly ass man with a beautiful wife, divorce happens, rumors about an affair with a teammate.

 

As heartless as it sounds, I think that this divorce is in the best interest of the team.

 

I'm guessing that was what the mystery text message he got last night before the game from the media was.

 

I agree, how do we know that she wasn't the one who wanted out, I mean who would seriously want to be with Lackey anyway?

 

I hate John as much as the next guy, but enough hasn't come out about it to come to any conclusions about the guy.

[iortiz]

I don't have the context in order to emit an opinion about Lackey's personal life. But if his personal life is affecting this team (seems so), as I said, ask for time and go and fix your personal issues and come back when you are 100 % ready; but please, make us a favor Lackey, stop hurting this team.

[BornToRun]

John Lackey will eat your soul and wash it down with your children after divorcing you as you battle cancer.

[a700hitter]

This Lackey thing seems to have eclipsed the Deadbeat Dad Bedard issue. It's still a very catchy name.

[RedSox_Ruszkowski]

Remember what happened to the Lakers here with Pau Gasol? Ugly ass man with a beautiful wife' date=' divorce happens... .[/quote']

 

Rich ugly celebrities = beautiful gold-digging whores. It's just nature....

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Not that big of a deal imo.

[jacksonianmarch]

John Lackey is the biggest dick of all time

[iortiz]

A week ago, I would've said "of course! we are not just gonna make the POs, we gonna win the Division". Today, sadly I'm not sure anymore.

 

Let's take a look...

 

RSOX (85-58; .594; projected, if we play .300 baseball: 90-72) Last ten (3-7; .300)

 

3 Games at TB

2 Games vs Toronto

4 Games vs TB

4 Games vs Baltimore

3 Games at New York

3 Games at Baltimore

 

Vs TB (5-6, .454)

Vs NY (11-4, .733)

Vs Toronto (9-7, .562)

Vs BaLtimore (8-3, .727)

 

TB (78-64; .549; projected, if they play .500 baseball: 88-74 ) Last ten (5-5; .500)

 

3 Games vs Boston

3 Games at Baltimore

4 Games at Boston

4 Games at NY

3 Games vs Toronto

3 Games vs NY

 

Vs Boston(6-5; .545)

Vs NY (5-6; .454)

Vs Toronto (10-5; .666)

Vs BaLtimore (8-7; .533)

 

The projection indicates that Boston goes to the POs; nevertheless, if Tampa plays .600 baseball and the RedSox continuos playing .300, the record will be tied and guess who goes to the POs? TB:(

 

Is it possible? Well, considering our rotation and the injuries, we definitely could finish playing .300... As a matter of fact, in September we are a .250 team after 8 games already played and 19 to be played.

 

On the other hand, TB has played .550 vs AL East and .571 in September; want it more scary? The 3 games that TB lost in September were against Texas and guess what? they won't face 'em again (4-5; .444 vs Tx), so....

 

We better recover Beckett and/or Bedard and/or our offense save our pitching ass as they've been doing all season.

 

Stack your odds Gentlemen, it isn't over, is it?

 

And the prophesy has fulfilled. Hate to say told you, but I told you

[Ace]

Lackey is a betraying, horse-faced *******. I hope the Red Sox DFA him to a pasture in Texas.

[Emmz]

John Lackey is the biggest dick of all time

 

Nah, he's runner-up to you.

[Taz]

There is never a divine right to qualify for play-offs. It takes hard work over the whole seaso & the truth is that inconsistency ended up costing the Sox big time. Woeful start to the season & the worst September I can remember in a long time are the product of a number of factors that will need to be examined at all levels, from the owners & front office to Terry & the players themselves.

 

Let the post mortum begin.

[Emmz]

And the prophesy has fulfilled. Hate to say told you' date=' but I told you[/quote']

 

You didn't predict anything. Don't give yourself a pat on the back for something you didn't do. You didn't say the Rays would catch us and pass us, you said it's possible, just like mostly everyone else said it was possible with the way the Sox were playing.