Alex Rodriguez has a gambling problem

[AtWork]

Take the emotion out of it and it's not that big of a deal on A-Rod's end. It's gambling, who cares, gambling is not against the rules, gambling on games is against the rules, there's a huge difference.

 

Gambling isn't a big deal, if MLB decides to suspend him, it won't be because of this crap, it will be solely because of defiance, which is itself a crock of s*** for a reason to suspend someone considering it's their life, and he wasn't endangering people's lives by playing a game of poker.

 

As of right now, their bar is set pretty low by not suspending players who were driving while under the influence of controlled substance. That is the point.

 

Now you're completely missing the point. Gambling isn't the issue, there are tons of players who gamble. Participating in illegal, multimillion dollar gambling rings after the commissioner has explicitly asked him to stop and he has said that he would stop is the issue. Even if you ignoring his previous history of ignore the commissioner, that alone would be enough to warrant a suspension.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

Supposedly the real issue about this is that there was tons of cocaine at this poker game and he might have been using it. If he is found to have been using it that is a suspension. A long one too.

 

 

Either way I still don't care

[AtWork]

Supposedly the real issue about this is that there was tons of cocaine at this poker game and he might have been using it. If he is found to have been using it that is a suspension. A long one too.

 

 

Either way I still don't care

 

I don't care if he's doing coke, I only care if he gets suspended or not and it would be a 50 game suspension. It's on the banned substance list.

[Divinity]

Supposedly the real issue about this is that there was tons of cocaine at this poker game and he might have been using it. If he is found to have been using it that is a suspension. A long one too.

 

 

Either way I still don't care

 

Cocaine only stays in your system for 3 days, he won't get busted for that.

[italstallianion]

No wonder why he was sticking it to Madonna for a while, he probably lost a bet. lol

[italstallianion]

Supposedly the real issue about this is that there was tons of cocaine at this poker game and he might have been using it. If he is found to have been using it that is a suspension. A long one too.

 

 

Either way I still don't care

 

 

I wonder if they are going to try and argue that cocaine is a performance enhancing drug. Maybe they should take awards away from Keith Richards and Amy Winehouse before they suspend A-rod here.

[a700hitter]

I don't know why they call it a gambling problem. Gambling only becomes a problem when you lose. It's more of a losing problem.

 

I also laugh at sex addiction. Has anyone ever claimed that they are sex addicts before they get busted cheating. I've never heard of anyone checking into a clinic because he is wearing out his girlfriend/wife. It's really a cheating addiction, not a sex addiction. The mental health community is just so full of s***.

[Emmz]

Now you're completely missing the point. Gambling isn't the issue' date=' there are tons of players who gamble. Participating in illegal, multimillion dollar gambling rings after the commissioner has explicitly asked him to stop and he has said that he would stop is the issue. Even if you ignoring his previous history of ignore the commissioner, that alone would be enough to warrant a suspension.[/quote']

 

Nice cop-out attempt. You were arguing gambling earlier, because that was originally the point of the thread. You just stumbled upon some new bit that says gambling isn't the issue, which I'd already stated before, yadda-yadda-yadda, now you're trying to pretend like that was your stance the whole time.

[jacksonianmarch]

If ARod got suspended, he'd appeal and win. There is no precedent for a suspension from MLB for this and the players association would have a fit

[Palodios]

I don't know why they call it a gambling problem. Gambling only becomes a problem when you lose. It's more of a losing problem.

 

I also laugh at sex addiction. Has anyone ever claimed that they are sex addicts before they get busted cheating. I've never heard of anyone checking into a clinic because he is wearing out his girlfriend/wife. It's really acheating addiction, not a sex addiction. The mental health community is just so full of s***.

 

Generally, no one diagnoses addiction until it becomes a problem. Same goes for drugs/alcohol. The only vice that gets the full s*** immediately is smoking, but that's because America has villanized the cigarette industry like no other.

[AtWork]

If ARod got suspended' date=' he'd appeal and win. There is no precedent for a suspension from MLB for this and the players association would have a fit[/quote']

 

A whole bunch of players have been suspended for illegal gambling. DUI on the other hand...

 

There are rumors that suspensions for DUI will be included in the next CBA because MLB doesn't feel like they could get away with suspending a player for it right now.

[jacksonianmarch]

A whole bunch of players have been suspended for gambling ON BASEBALL. Big difference. Nobody has gotten suspended for poker

[AtWork]

Nice cop-out attempt. You were arguing gambling earlier' date=' because that was originally the point of the thread. You just stumbled upon some new bit that says gambling isn't the issue, which I'd already stated before, yadda-yadda-yadda, now you're trying to pretend like that was your stance the whole time.[/quote']

 

You're so full of it. Please quote where I said that legal gambling is an issue.

[AtWork]

A whole bunch of players have been suspended for gambling ON BASEBALL. Big difference. Nobody has gotten suspended for poker

 

True, I don't know if any of them were banned for betting on poker. Not true that only players who bet on games were suspended. Eugene Paulette was banned for associating with gamblers. Mantle and Mays were banned from baseball (after they had retired) for signing autgraphs at a casino.

[AtWork]

I don't know why they call it a gambling problem. Gambling only becomes a problem when you lose. It's more of a losing problem.

 

I also laugh at sex addiction. Has anyone ever claimed that they are sex addicts before they get busted cheating. I've never heard of anyone checking into a clinic because he is wearing out his girlfriend/wife. It's really a cheating addiction, not a sex addiction. The mental health community is just so full of s***.

 

"Sex addiction" isn't a recognized mental health diagnosis.

[a700hitter]

Generally' date=' no one diagnoses addiction until it becomes a problem. Same goes for drugs/alcohol. The only vice that gets the full s*** immediately is smoking, but that's because America has villanized the cigarette industry like no other.[/quote']I've known people to get diagnosed as alcoholics before they wrecked the personal/professional lives.

 

And what the hell is a workaholic? Someone who works so hard that it affects his relationships? That's a mental disorder? What about lazy people? They affect people's lives in a negative way. Why isn't that a mental disorder? Lazy-aholics.

[AtWork]

I've known people to get diagnosed as alcoholics before they wrecked the personal/professional lives.

 

And what the hell is a workaholic? Someone who works so hard that it affects his relationships? That's a mental disorder? What about lazy people? They affect people's lives in a negative way. Why isn't that a mental disorder? Lazy-aholics.

 

Workaholic isn't a mental health disorder either.

[a700hitter]

And what the hell is an eating disorder? In the words of George Carlin, "fat chick who won't eat, who cares!" An eating disorder should be a condition that prevents you from physically ingesting food, not a refusal to eat or vomiting after eating. In the words of Buddy Hackett, "I don't have an eating disorder. I can eat as much as I want and get as fat as I want."

[Palodios]

Workaholic isn't a mental health disorder either.

 

I'd bet a hundred bux that it is in the DSM.

[AtWork]

I'd bet a hundred bux that it is in the DSM.

 

Sig bet?

[Palodios]

Sig bet?

 

Dear lord... it really isn't in there? I'm extremely surprised.There have got to be atleast a thousand "disorders" stupider than workaholicism in there.

[a700hitter]

Dear lord... it really isn't in there? I'm extremely surprised.There have got to be atleast a thousand "disorders" stupider than workaholicism in there.

That's because it is probably lumped in with OCD's. Guaranteed that there is some BS clinic that will treat you and charge your insurance.

[Emmz]

You're so full of it. Please quote where I said that legal gambling is an issue.

 

Your argument is so inconsistent. You said that "gambling isn't the issue" then you said "illegal gambling is the issue". No one implied that legal gambling was the issue here, that's a very sneaky little straw man.

 

Your argument has changed as follows:

 

- He's gonna get suspended because of his defiance. He's really had it coming to him!

 

- He's gonna get suspended because illegal gambling is against the CBA!

 

- Then it's not gambling that's the issue...

 

- Oops, it's illegal gambling that's the issue (One sentence after saying gambling's not the issue)

 

So, can you pick a stance or something? It's starting to get confusing exactly what you're arguing here. Seems to me like you just don't like A-Rod and would get kicks out of him getting suspended for petty crap like gambling. I don't blame you, he's a douche, but it's still a s*** reason to suspend him, considering all the other stuff they've let slip by.

 

They surely might end up suspending him, but considering that people who get DUI's get off scot-free, he certainly should not, I think that's the point every one here is trying to make, which you seem to be missing completely. (I'm surprised I've had to explain this to you so many times)

[AtWork]

Your argument is so inconsistent. You said that "gambling isn't the issue" then you said "illegal gambling is the issue". No one implied that legal gambling was the issue here, that's a very sneaky little straw man.

 

Your argument has changed as follows:

 

- He's gonna get suspended because of his defiance. He's really had it coming to him!

 

- He's gonna get suspended because illegal gambling is against the CBA!

 

- Then it's not gambling that's the issue...

 

- Oops, it's illegal gambling that's the issue (One sentence after saying gambling's not the issue)

 

So, can you pick a stance or something? It's starting to get confusing exactly what you're arguing here. Seems to me like you just don't like A-Rod and would get kicks out of him getting suspended for petty crap like gambling. I don't blame you, he's a douche, but it's still a s*** reason to suspend him, considering all the other stuff they've let slip by.

 

They surely might end up suspending him, but considering that people who get DUI's get off scot-free, he certainly should not, I think that's the point every one here is trying to make, which you seem to be missing completely. (I'm surprised I've had to explain this to you so many times)

 

Give the witch hunt a rest. You claimed I said legal gambling was the issue. I asked you to quote where I said that and you changed the subject. Now you're claiming I changed my answer 4 times. If that's true, either quote where I contradicted myself or stop flaming. Saying gambling isn't the issue, illegal gambling is the issue is not a contradiction. That's like saying driving isn't an issue, but driving without a license is.

[arbitrary]

That's because it is probably lumped in with OCD's.

 

def. not an OCD subtype.

[AtWork]

Dear lord... it really isn't in there? I'm extremely surprised.There have got to be atleast a thousand "disorders" stupider than workaholicism in there.

 

Stupid is as stupid does. It's not like the DSM makes up these behaviors.

[AtWork]

def. not an OCD subtype.

 

True, but the perfectionism demosntrated by some "workaholics" could be a symptom of OCD or some other anxiety disorder.

[arbitrary]

True' date=' but the perfectionism demosntrated by some "workaholics" could be a symptom of OCD or some other anxiety disorder.[/quote']

 

ironically people with OCD perfectionism end up not doing anything and avoiding everything related to their perfectionism (lose their job, leave school, etc...); it becomes paralyzing. Similarly with Generalized Anxiety Disorder. Any one behavior could be a symptom, but thankfully there are many symptoms that make up a disorder. So its often impossible to tell based off of one behavior.

[a700hitter]

ironically people with OCD perfectionism end up not doing anything and avoiding everything related to their perfectionism (lose their job' date=' leave school, etc...); it becomes paralyzing. Similarly with Generalized Anxiety Disorder. Any one behavior could be a symptom, but thankfully there are many symptoms that make up a disorder. So its often impossible to tell based off of one behavior.[/quote']These aren't disorders. It's just the way some people are. If it prevents them from functioning in society the way people expect them to function, the mental health profession has to classify it as a disorder. The profession is awash with quacks and frauds dispensing all sorts of chemical and other therapies.

[AtWork]

ironically people with OCD perfectionism end up not doing anything and avoiding everything related to their perfectionism (lose their job' date=' leave school, etc...); it becomes paralyzing. Similarly with Generalized Anxiety Disorder. Any one behavior could be a symptom, but thankfully there are many symptoms that make up a disorder. So its often impossible to tell based off of one behavior.[/quote']

 

No two people experience the same disorder the same way. I know plenty of people with OCD and GAD who are stand out professionals but are socially crippled.