What happened to the Indians?

[TeddyBallGame9]

foxsportsohio.com/msn/03/06/11/Whats-happened-to-the-Guardians/landing_indians.html?blockID=434456

 

Sad story.

[suns]

I read the first sentence then closed it. They will be back sometime. They will never leave cleveland unless they have a 0-162 season

[bsox0407]

They are back on the bottom of the AL Central, battling with Kansas City each year to avoid a last-place finish.

 

LMAO

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Major burn.

[suns]

Adding to the last thing I said

Just like at all the people who are gonna come up this year or have already

Carlos Santana

Matt Laporta....

Jason Kipnis

Michael Brantley

Lonnie Chisenhall

Tomlin

Carrasco

Some other guys

They will be back sooner rather than later

[Emmz]

It's alright, we can all join together and laugh at the Cubs.

[bsox0407]

Adding to the last thing I said

Just like at all the people who are gonna come up this year or have already

Carlos Santana

Matt Laporta....

Jason Kipnis

Michael Brantley

Lonnie Chisenhall

Tomlin

Carrasco

Some other guys

They will be back sooner rather than later

 

Well My Friend is supposed to hit the Big Club in 2012. Jason Knapp. He is a big Kid and throws f***ing Hard.

[Cocos Disciples]

I actually think the Guardians are not too far from contending. Certainly not this year, though.

[jacksonianmarch]

Cleveland is a hole. They cannot play ball with the big boys and have proven they cannot make the right personnel decisions to keep their team competitive. It boggles the mind that they'd prefer to sign an all out CFer and a one trick pony DH over locking uP two aces long term in Lee and Sabathia. They were handed a golden goose with their drafting and te stupidity of Omar Minaya (Colon trade) but squandered it. They are a LONG way of from contending and will likely be dealing Carmona over the next 12 months.

[Palodios]

Their payroll was 61 million in 2010. The possibility that they could afford Sabathia/ Lee is ridiculous, and they didn't exactly have great luck with Lee-- it looked like they were selling high on him at the time.

[Meh]

The city is a trash bin for losers and muppets. The Guardians lack something, impact players. Choo is a great player but he can't carry the team. It's so sad to see, they sold the naming rights to resign CC. They're getting 15 million a year for it to be called Progressive Field and no CC, no Lee, No VMart, just shoving dildos up their fans butts.

 

And to think, for a seven-year stretch, from 1995 through 2001, the Guardians were what other teams wanted to be. They were a home-grown champion. Six times, they advanced to the post-season. They surpassed the 3 million attendance mark six times. In 1995, they won their first AL pennant in 41 years.

I'm pretty sure that was the Yankees...

[Meh]

Their payroll was 61 million in 2010. The possibility that they could afford Sabathia/ Lee is ridiculous' date=' and they didn't exactly have great luck with Lee-- it looked like they were selling high on him at the time.[/quote']

 

Dude.... as I said they sold the naming rights to their stadium so they could sign him and four months later traded him away. They get about 27 million in revenue sharing IIRC as well. As well as $14.6 million for whoring their food out.

[Palodios]

Dude... if they signed Sabathia+Lee, those two players would be taking 80% of their payroll right now.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

The city is a trash bin for losers and muppets. The Guardians lack something' date=' impact players. Choo is a great player but he can't carry the team. It's so sad to see, they sold the naming rights to resign CC. They're getting 15 million [b']a year[/b] for it to be called Progressive Field and no CC, no Lee, No VMart, just shoving dildos up their fans butts.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that was the Yankees...

 

He speaks the truth.

[jacksonianmarch]

Their payroll was 61 million in 2010. The possibility that they could afford Sabathia/ Lee is ridiculous' date=' and they didn't exactly have great luck with Lee-- it looked like they were selling high on him at the time.[/quote']

 

They could have resigned him during his arb yrs for a discount on a few FA yrs

[Meh]

Dude... if they signed Sabathia+Lee' date=' those two players would be taking 80% of their payroll right now.[/quote']

 

I'm not saying both

[ORS]

I'm pretty sure that was the Yankees...

Is this serious?

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

That went right over my head. I didn't even see that. What caught your attention the advancing to the postseason six times or in 1995 winning their first AL pennant in 41 years? Lmao.

[TeddyBallGame9]

Cleveland is a hole. They cannot play ball with the big boys and have proven they cannot make the right personnel decisions to keep their team competitive. It boggles the mind that they'd prefer to sign an all out CFer and a one trick pony DH over locking uP two aces long term in Lee and Sabathia. They were handed a golden goose with their drafting and te stupidity of Omar Minaya (Colon trade) but squandered it. They are a LONG way of from contending and will likely be dealing Carmona over the next 12 months.

 

Right! They came one game from beating the Red Sox in 2007 yet you say they can't play with the big boys. I suggest you look at the overall history of the Red Sox. Same argument could be made about them before Big $$$$ took over the sport. (?) I further suggest you re-read the article and look at their attendance. They had a then-record of 455 consecutive sell outs from June 6, 1995 to June 4, 2001 in a much larger park than Fenway. Also, 3 of those years were sold out before opening day. They built those teams from within with shrewd long-term contracts.

 

Yes, currently they are financially strapped but I think you're comments are way off base.

[Dojji]

It's not really anything that unusual. Many midmarkets assemble a core and run for awhile. sometimes a long while, before the wheels fall off and they have to start over. It's just that Cleveland is at the "start over" point now. Sometimes even the big markets get there eventually.

[Meh]

Is this serious?

 

I meant "And to think, for a seven-year stretch, from 1995 through 2001, the Guardians were what other teams wanted to be"

[rwb]

That's pretty much how it was looked upon during that era.

[jacksonianmarch]

Really? For a 6 yr period of no championships they were the shining example? Not the team that won 4 WS?

[Dojji]

Not the team that plays a huge big-money model no other team can safely emulate? Shocking.

 

The current torchbearer for the ideal model franchise is Tampa Bay. Might be handed off to KC or Texas soon, and from there, who knows. The point is that any team can build from the draft and try to hold it together for a few years. NOT every team can build from high end FA's and buying out someone else's good fortune.

[Meh]

Not the team that plays a huge big-money model no other team can safely emulate? Shocking.

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Guardians were top 5 in spending during that time... Sure the Yankees had bigger payrolls during those years ranging from 15 to 20 million over them, but come on the Yankees owned those years. It was the Yankees and everyone else.

[ORS]

Leave it to Yankee fans to turn an innocuous comment into a silly pissing match. You guys never fail to show your colors.

[Meh]

Wouldn't have to turn it into a pissing match if sox fans didn't lap it up.

 

I hope you know im joking too, or at least I hope none of you drink urine.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I find that post to be....

 

 

 

 

 

Meh.

[Youk Of The Nation]

What happened? We stole their land, marginalized their people, and now they live on reservations and laugh as they watch us gamble the deeds to our homes away. It's the circle of life.

[Flynnatic10]

What happened? We stole their land' date=' marginalized their people, and now they live on reservations and laugh as they watch us gamble the deeds to our homes away. It's the circle of life.[/quote']

 

Plus, they moved to Oklahoma.