Off-season baseball redraft

[Jasonbay44]

If there is still room left, ill do it.

[italstallianion]

There's plenty of room left.

[yrtb]

Can somebody make a list of all teams in this so far?

[yankees228]

I mentioned this before, but does everyone agree that it would be best to wait until the NFL voting is over before this begins?

[italstallianion]

I think so, but there's still plenty of time to figure out who's in it and what all of the variables are.

[Dipre]

Ital

 

WhiskeyBreath

 

Yrtb

 

Flyn

 

Y228

 

JBay

 

Divinity

 

Keeper

 

Dipre

[YanksHater213]

I guess I'd be in as well in keeping with my theme of doing these things.

 

Even though my team was horrendous last time we did a baseball one

[suns]

Dipre, in all serious, can you stop talking about me?

[italstallianion]

I guess I'd be in as well in keeping with my theme of doing these things.

 

Even though my team was horrendous last time we did a baseball one

 

 

That must have been before the last one, because you weren't in the most recent one I think.

[Dipre]

suns, in all seriousness ,go away.

 

You're not in. Period. I don't care about you enough to talk about you but you did flip your s***, and you admitted it yourself.

 

So let it go and let us continue with the redraft.

[YanksHater213]

That must have been before the last one' date=' because you weren't in the most recent one I think.[/quote']

 

Whichever one I was in. Not sure when it was, but I had an awful squad.

[Dipre]

Whichever one I was in. Not sure when it was' date=' but I had an awful squad.[/quote']

 

Your team wasn't that bad. Doiji's was worse with half the KC Royals roster.

[italstallianion]

We should get some of those people (Dojji, ORS, A700, YOTN, Emmz, VA) that (as long as I've been involved) haven't done a redraft.

[Dipre]

BUMP!

 

Accepting members and suggestions now that the NFL re-draft is over.

[italstallianion]

You should keep a running tally of which teams are doing this.

[Dipre]

Ital

 

WhiskeyBreath

 

Yrtb

 

Flyn

 

Y228

 

JBay

 

Divinity

 

Keeper

 

Dipre

 

So far.

[italstallianion]

Are we doing it this coming year or a few years in the future?

[Dipre]

Next season with salary cap incorporated sounds pretty awesome to me.

[italstallianion]

Ok, we should try to have it completed by the time the regular season starts so we can't cheat and use their stats.

 

Also, I recommend having an 8 hour window to make your pick with the clock stopping from midnight to 8 am.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

In. No salary cap plz.

[italstallianion]

It would be just like a fantasy league if there wasn't a cap. The only difference would be that there's no official league.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

So? You draft the best players and others judge how your team will perform as a unit compared to the others. Easy. Since there's much less of us than there are MLB teams, the talent will be bunched up more and all of our teams will be titans. I like it.

[italstallianion]

Without a salary cap there's no real challenge. It might as well be a fantasy league. And in that case, we might as well have it on yahoo or espn instead of talksox. A regular draft for this coming season is way too easy.

[italstallianion]

I almost think that instead of voting, if the draft is this coming year, we can use the stats of our players from this year to speak for themselves. It'd be a lot easier to determine who "would win" if you have the actual stats to look at (for the said season instead of in the future). It'd be like a time capsule.

[italstallianion]

So? You draft the best players and others judge how your team will perform as a unit compared to the others. Easy. Since there's much less of us than there are MLB teams' date=' the talent will be bunched up more and all of our teams will be titans. I like it.[/quote']

 

 

And if all of the teams are bunched up and are "titans" then how are we supposed to realistically weed out the good teams from the bad teams? With a salary cap you can tell which team owners put in the work to build a good team. And it makes people work to dig and find the best values.

[Keeper]

Do we know roughly when the draft will begin?

[yrtb]

Ital, I have to disagree that this would become like a fantasy team

 

A fantasy team does not have to have relievers of specific positions, just closers for saves

A fantasy team just analyzes stats, not defense, nothing like that

 

A salary cap would be interesting, but it would have to be high, since the average MLB payroll is getting close to $90 million I think, and we will have about half the teams (if not less) as the actual MLB, so any salary cap below $100 million would be really hard to reach, I mean even $100 mil would be tough

[YanksHater213]

I actually would like it better if the salary cap is lower, around the average teams salaries.

 

It'd make it much more difficult and make it much easier to distinguish the good teams from the bad. Also using this way it'll be much easier to see who actually builds a better team as opposed to who selects the best players the best.

 

Say we have 15 teams, and use the average MLB payroll number as a cap, that'll mean some of the guys who are highly paid won't get picked, and some guys who may have a high number who may be pretty talented won't get picked. I strongly feel using this way will make this redraft much more worthwhile than just being the same as every other one. This will mean that some talented guys who have ridiculous contracts (Vernon Wells for instance) might not get picked because even though he's talented, he's got a big contract that you're better off splitting between 2-3 guys instead of just picking Wells.

 

Also I suggest we use the AAV of contracts instead of their number for next year if we're planning this to be something that we look at the teams 3-5 years down the road.

 

IE: If you pick Crawford his salaries look like this 11:$14M, 12:$19.5M, 13:$20M, 14:$20.25M, 15:$20.5M, 16:$20.75M, 17:$21M

 

So instead of his cap number for the draft being 14 mil, it'd be the avg of all 7 years, 19.4 million. This makes the cap hits that we would have to take on much more realistic and prevents people from skirting the rules by picking someone whose contract doesn't bump up in money for a year or two.

 

That is unless we plan on doing this for next season only.

[italstallianion]

I'd rather do it for this coming year and use 2011 salaries. I think that it'd be too easy for teams to mess up the math and end up over cap.

 

On that point, I think there should be trading and a "free agency" period shortly after the draft so that if by chance, teams are accidentally over cap, they can work to get under the cap by the time the voting started.

[italstallianion]

I'd want to make sure that we have a lot of teams before we get started. I'm hoping for at least 10 teams at a minimum with a goal of 15-16 teams. It looks like we're at 9 spots.