Yankees 2010-2011 Hotstove Thread

[jacksonianmarch]

Greinke waived his NTC to any club. He wants out of KC. Regardless, I dont see the Yanks being on any potential list

[Meh]

Sooo.... Might have a reason for AJ's failures last yr. He was served with divorce papers halfway through the season and his wife apparently has been pretty rough through it all. Not an excuse' date=' but maybe that is why he tanked 3 of the last 4 months. Who knows, we shall see[/quote']

 

Divorce is rough, people say the worst thing is death but if you really love someone divorce is def worse. Cause they can cause you soo much more to you and your mind with mind games. When you're dead, you're dead you can't go out your way and hurt that person. I feel bad for saying some stuff about him now and his black eye. Btw karen burnett is very hott...

[italstallianion]

I'm sure people said the same thing about Varitek with his divorce a few seasons ago.

[Meh]

Well apparently their divorce is really nasty. I read take the worst divorce story and double it.

[a700hitter]

Well apparently their divorce is really nasty. I read take the worst divorce story and double it.

Screw him he stinks. He has been lucky that he has been DL free for 3 years. He's due for a lengthy stay on the DL.

[BSN07]

Sooo.... Might have a reason for AJ's failures last yr. He was served with divorce papers halfway through the season and his wife apparently has been pretty rough through it all. Not an excuse' date=' but maybe that is why he tanked 3 of the last 4 months. Who knows, we shall see[/quote']

 

It's a fair point to bring up. I read she was a total bitch. That could have been a major distraction for him. And yes it was brought up in defense for Variteks off year when he was going through his.

[Meh]

Greinke waived his NTC to any club. He wants out of KC. Regardless' date=' I dont see the Yanks being on any potential list[/quote']

 

If you're the GM of the Yankees what do you do?

 

You've got a 178(plus another 6 million for arbi to Hughes, Joba and Logan) million payroll right now, you're budget is $220 million. A deep farm system with a lot of arms other GMs have been asking for.

[Meh]

Yankees have a lot of interest in Jenks and Fuentes. I don't have a link, just something a friend told me. They'd like to spend some of their lee money on those two. Top choice reminds soriano though but he wants to close.

[Divinity]

Good news for Yankees seems Pettitte will be back

 

pettitte thought likely to return because family supports it. but friend says andy, upset over low '09 base, wont accept a "lowball'' offer - Heyman

[Palodios]

f*** no, don't accept a lowball offer. 20 AAV, minimum-- they're desperate, and everyone knows it.

[Meh]

f*** no' date=' don't accept a lowball offer. 20 AAV, minimum-- they're desperate, and everyone knows it.[/quote']

 

He's talking about the 09 thing he wont come back for 9 million...

[Palodios]

Its going to be a one year deal. Low risk, high reward for the Yankees, so he knows he can take advantage of their desperation.

[jacksonianmarch]

If you're the GM of the Yankees what do you do?

 

You've got a 178(plus another 6 million for arbi to Hughes, Joba and Logan) million payroll right now, you're budget is $220 million. A deep farm system with a lot of arms other GMs have been asking for.

 

I wait. Right now is not the time to make an irrational move. And Greinke is an irrational move. I love his stuff. He has top notch, Ace stuff that works on any pitching staff. But his mental disease coupled with NY would be potentially devastating. In KC, nobody ever booed him. In NY, if he gives up a run in his first inning, he might get booed. The last thing I want to see is NY giving up Montero plus for this kid, signing him to a 20 mil per year extension after his 2 yr contract and then finding out he's curled up in a ball crying for mommy as soon as he sees the big lights. Now, some of these disorders are controllable and if the Yankees can be convinced by medical records, psychological evals, etc that he is stable right now, then maybe, just maybe. But, with that major risk AND the prospect load it would take to get him, I do not want him.

 

I have been hearing about Zambrano. He is exactly the kind of move I would endorse. He's still young, but a recent rash of injuries and suspensions have taken some mileage off his arm of late. He still brings it mid 90s, he still has devastating stuff, and when he came back from suspension, he was unreal (although the walks were very high). He's only signed for 2 more years with an option and due to his high AAV, the Cubs would likely ask for little in return. If his stuff works in NY, then he's worth it, if it doesnt, then they can cut bait after 2012 and he only cost money.

 

If Zambrano isnt on the table, then I get Andy back at whatever price he wants on a 1 year deal. I throw Nova out there as the 5th starter, as I think he has the potential to be an innings eater. And another reason why I dont mind Nova is that it gives him a chance to show what he can do for a future trade since the real studs are coming behind him. And then I consider adding to the pen. The annoying thing is that Crain and Wood appear to be off the table. I liked those two as potential late inning relievers. A lefty is an absolute must. And otherwise, I think the team as is still makes the playoffs. You need to have patience, cause invariably a team drops out of it and puts a player up for bidding. Who knew Haren was moving midseason? This is the kind of move we are loaded for bear for, especially if Hughes or Burnett or Nova regress.

[Meh]

Yankees getting close to a deal with Pedro.....Feliciano. Well if you want a LOOGY he looks to be your man.

 

[jacksonianmarch]

Yeah, I wanted him from the outset since he doesnt cost a pick. He'll tandem with Logan as solid left handed relievers for a manager who does everything by the book. Hope his rubber arm is still attached at year's end

[Dipre]

Jacko, where do you get mid-90's for Zambrano?

 

His average fastball velocity dipped for the fifth year in a row to a career-low 90.7 MPH.

 

He barely hit 94 a couple times last year when reaching back.

[a700hitter]

Jacko, where do you get mid-90's for Zambrano?

 

His average fastball velocity dipped for the fifth year in a row to a career-low 90.7 MPH.

 

He barely hit 94 a couple times last year when reaching back.

Zambrano would be more dumpster diving. I love it. Let them get Zambrano, Prior, maybe even Smoltz. Not a good plan.

[BSN07]

Jacko, where do you get mid-90's for Zambrano?

 

His average fastball velocity dipped for the fifth year in a row to a career-low 90.7 MPH.

 

He barely hit 94 a couple times last year when reaching back.

 

Shhhh! I would love it if Big Z ended up in NY

[Divinity]

I'm surprised Jacko would choose Zambrano over Pettitte, I'd take Andy over him anyday. It doesn't seem he'll be going to NY anyway according to Heyman

 

the yankees will not be trying for carlos zambrano. they are not quite that desperate

 

lol

[Dojji]

So, Sabbathia gonna walk at the end of the year?

 

If I was in his shoes at age 31 I'd at least test the market. Pitchers are getting AAV comparable to his, and he knows that NYY would consider him proven so he's not closing off the Yankees as a potential buyer. If a tiebreaker is needed, he'd be going for a new contract age age 31 instead of 35, easier to get both years and AAV that way and lock himself into a deal most of the rest of the way to retirement.

 

It'd come down to how NYY rotation does next year. IF they're bad, then there's no reason for Sabbathia not to opt out as he has the ability to instantly put NYY over a barrel and add pick up a 7 year deal. The better the rest of the Yankee starters do, the less leverage CC has and the more likely he plays out his deal.

[redsoxrules]

So, Sabbathia gonna walk at the end of the year?

 

If I was in his shoes at age 31 I'd at least test the market. Pitchers are getting AAV comparable to his, and he knows that NYY would consider him proven so he's not closing off the Yankees as a potential buyer. If a tiebreaker is needed, he'd be going for a new contract age age 31 instead of 35, easier to get both years and AAV that way and lock himself into a deal most of the rest of the way to retirement.

 

It'd come down to how NYY rotation does next year. IF they're bad, then there's no reason for Sabbathia not to opt out as he has the ability to instantly put NYY over a barrel and add pick up a 7 year deal. The better the rest of the Yankee starters do, the less leverage CC has and the more likely he plays out his deal.

 

I cant see any team offering him more than he's making now , he's the top paid pitcher in the game and he's not even the best in the game so I doubt he gets more

[Divinity]

Sabathia said late last season he wasn't going to opt out. He has built a big house in Bergen County, which he lives in all year, and enjoys pitching for the Yankees.

[Dojji]

I cant see any team offering him more than he's making now ' date=' he's the top paid pitcher in the game and he's not even the best in the game so I doubt he gets more[/quote']

 

But he could get additional guaranteed years at high end money out of it, so it pretty much depends on whether he decides that'd be worth it.

[jacksonianmarch]

We'll see if he is true to his word. He says he would never opt out and will honor the deal. The only reason why he put the opt out in there was if he didnt like NY, but he has embraced NY with both humongous arms. He will not opt out, but if I were NY, I might reward him with a player option for an 8th yr at maybe $20 mil or so.

[Dojji]

I doubt if he opted out, NYY would be petty about it. If he wasn't a mercenary he wouldn't have signed with the Yankees in the first place, and they know he can pitch in New York. I imagine if he did opt out, NYY would be at the forefront of the bidding to get his services back, much like they were with A-Rod.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jacko, where do you get mid-90's for Zambrano?

 

His average fastball velocity dipped for the fifth year in a row to a career-low 90.7 MPH.

 

He barely hit 94 a couple times last year when reaching back.

 

I read that he averaged 93mph. Hmmm, maybe my numbers are off. Regardless, Cashman shot that down as well. As it stands right now, Andy told the Yankee brass that he is leaning towards returning but wont be lowballed. He's got the Yanks by the balls and will probably command around $15 million. The thing is, our rotation's ineptitude is really being overstated.

 

1. Sabathia- 21 wins 3.18ERA 1.19WHIP 237.2IP 197K- ace material who is durable

 

2. Pettitte- 11 wins 3.28ERA 1.27WHIP 129IP 101K- capable of being a solid #2, but durability is a questionmark

 

3. Hughes- 18 wins 4.19ERA 1.25WHIP 176.1IP 146K- solid first full season out of the rotation, should improve on his peripherals but dont expect much change in wins

 

4. AJ Burnett- complete collapse in the second half

 

5. Ivan Nova- great stuff but no MLB track record

 

If Pettitte returns, we still have a very solid top 3. Our concern comes around playoff time, IMO. Our left handedness should help significantly against Boston's lineup. Our rotation is still vulnerable to a righty heavy lineup like the Rangers, although them losing Lee might make them less likely of making the playoffs in 2011. And with AJ, I expect to see an improvement. Through the end of July, his numbers were actually pretty respectable for a 3rd starter. But the 6.61ERA and 1.60WHIP after August 1st coupled with a nasty divorce around that time and the loss of his pitching coach really killed his season. I expect a bit more out of AJ this yr, and I expect him to get back to the guy he can be and he showed he was in his first season. Inconsistent, but capable of giving innings and intermittent dominance

[Palodios]

Its interesting that no one seems to believe that that is a solid rotation. It won them a WS just two years ago. The problem is, after some of the stacked rotations there are in Boston, San Fran, and Philly, for some reason it just doesn't seem all that fierce anymore since Burnett fell off a cliff.

[jacksonianmarch]

That's the thing. When Burnett was a solid #2/#3 starter, this rotation was very good. Once he fell off a cliff, it was assumed that the rotation sucked, when it really didnt.

[a700hitter]

Yankees To Sign Pedro Feliciano

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [December 17 at 8:49am CST]

 

The Yankees have agreed to sign Pedro Feliciano, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter). MDR Sports represents the left-hander.

 

The 34-year-old is durable, effective against left-handed hitters and used to pitching in New York. Feliciano has led the National League in appearances in each of the past three seasons for the Mets, the team with which he has spent his entire eight-year career. Overall, Feliciano posted a 3.30 ERA with 8.0 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9 in 62 2/3 innings in 2010.

 

Feliciano limited left-handed hitters to a .211/.297/.276 line last year. He did not allow a home run in 139 matchups against lefty batters.

 

The Yankees will not have to surrender a draft choice, but the Mets will obtain a supplementary first round pick, since Feliciano turned down their offer or arbitration. The Red Sox, Rockies and Phillies also had interest in the reliever.

 

The Yankees now seem likely to pursue starting pitching, a right-handed reliever and an outfielder who bats from the right-side.

[a700hitter]

Feliciano has been a Met for the last 3 seasons-- Nufced. Yankee fans know what I mean.