Boston Red Sox 2010 draft picks

[italstallianion]

I think the Sox should just back up the money truck, give him 7-8 million, get him a litre of Jack and a hooker and call it a night.

[WhiskeyBreath]

I think the Sox should just back up the money truck' date=' give him 7-8 million, get him a litre of Jack and a hooker and call it a night.[/quote']

 

I like your style

[msubulldogs21]

I'll be pissed if the Sox don't sign him. They are the Boston Red Sox' date=' they can afford him.[/quote']

 

Yep. If we let this guy get away over a few million we're going to regret it in a few years.

[Palodios]

$10 million is silly. david price only got an $8.5 million contract and he had better stuff' date=' actually was the top draft pick and wasn't coming back from injury[/quote']

 

David Price's agent wasn't Scott Boras.

[Yaz Sideburn]

David Price's agent wasn't Scott Boras.

 

to put $10 million into perspective, the record for the most money guaranteed to a draft pick is $10.5 million. and we're not talking about a clear cut #1 draft pick with a clean bill of health here

[Palodios]

to put $10 million into perspective' date=' the record for the most money guaranteed to a draft pick is $10.5 million. and we're not talking about a clear cut #1 draft pick with a clean bill of health here[/quote']

 

Strasburg's was worth 15 million.

[italstallianion]

Maybe we should have a bake sale outside of Fenway to make up the difference to sign Ranaudo.

[Yaz Sideburn]

Strasburg's was worth 15 million.

 

you're right, the record previous to him was $10.5 million. i just don't see a guy drafted 39th, coming off an injury, becoming the third highest paid draft pick of all-time

[example1]

you're right' date=' the record previous to him was $10.5 million. i just don't see a guy drafted 39th, coming off an injury, becoming the third highest paid draft pick of all-time[/quote']

 

He won't be.

 

The Sox have a deep system so I think it is hard for them to slot a recent draft pick as a definite starter one or two years down the road. Do they know Ranaudo is a better bet to be a great pitcher than Casey Kelly or Stolmy Pimentel? They have to know that he's good enough to end up in the rotation if they're going to spend huge sums of money. The Nationals or DBacks or Orioles can be reasonably assured a high draft pick will crack the rotation. The Sox can't. I think that's one thing that will keep them from doing the "whatever it takes" approach, and what may keep Ranaudo wanting a different team.

 

If the Sox really believe he is healthy and worthy of a top spot they should offer him to a very generous contract and prepare him to take over the #5 spot when Matsuzaka's contract is up after 2012.

 

Ten million dollars is a lot for a player who doesn't have an impact on the MLB field. It's not as bad if you are an all-star under team control for 6 years.

[jacksonianmarch]

Boras has always been very progressive, remember that. And, Ranaudo was considered the #2 player in the draft prior to his injury, which he has now proven is healthy enough to throw incredibly well in the Cape. He's gonna look at Brackman's contract and say, hmm. Big market club. Later in the draft. And big, strong kid with lights out stuff. The similarities are there. The Yankees got Brackman at a "discount" because he needed Tommy John. Ranaudo doesnt need surgery, so he should get more.

 

Plus, in parallel, the Yankees are pretty happy with Brackman's progression and probably do not regret their decision, which is another thing Boras can point to. Regardless, Boras has leverage here that not too many players drafted in the supp round have.

[Rdsxmbnt]

Boras has always been very progressive, remember that. And, Ranaudo was considered the #2 player in the draft prior to his injury, which he has now proven is healthy enough to throw incredibly well in the Cape. He's gonna look at Brackman's contract and say, hmm. Big market club. Later in the draft. And big, strong kid with lights out stuff. The similarities are there. The Yankees got Brackman at a "discount" because he needed Tommy John. Ranaudo doesnt need surgery, so he should get more.

 

Plus, in parallel, the Yankees are pretty happy with Brackman's progression and probably do not regret their decision, which is another thing Boras can point to. Regardless, Boras has leverage here that not too many players drafted in the supp round have.

 

Lets be real here, Brackman is almost 25 and has never posted an ERA under 4.50. Ranuado is going to be a senior so while he may be pitching fine now (in a VERY pitcher friendly league though) but if he gets another injury he's screwed.

[Yaz Sideburn]

everyone agrees that boras has leverage but i think most people here think that should allow him to get $5-$8 million guaranteed for ranaudo rather than one of the highest contracts of all-time. he's a great talent, but he's not a price or strasburg so it's not very likely that he gets paid like one as you're suggesting

[jacksonianmarch]

Lets be real here' date=' Brackman is almost 25 and has never posted an ERA under 4.50. Ranuado is going to be a senior so while he may be pitching fine now (in a VERY pitcher friendly league though) but if he gets another injury he's screwed.[/quote']

 

Brackman signed as a 22 yr old, then lost a yr to TJS. Last yr was his first yr back and was up and down, mostly down. This yr has been decidedly better, especially after recovering from a hand injury. His peripherals for Tampa were solid (K/BB of 7, K/9 of 8, WHIP under 1.2) and in AA he's been very good save 1 horrible start. And Brackman signed what I believe is the fifth or sixth highest total contract value ever given to a draftee.

 

But the fact remains, big guys are projects but their ceilings are higher. Ranaudo seems to be less of a project due to his command so his ceiling isnt very far off from his actual. And while he turns 21 this September, his age is meaningless. His stuff and his size profile him as either a dominant relief guy or a front end starter. And injury, so long as it doesnt involve the shoulder wont change that, regardless of how old he is.

 

And when you are talking about a potential $8 mil draft bonus, that's HUGE. That would put him top 5 in history.

[jacksonianmarch]

everyone agrees that boras has leverage but i think most people here think that should allow him to get $5-$8 million guaranteed for ranaudo rather than one of the highest contracts of all-time. he's a great talent' date=' but he's not a price or strasburg so it's not very likely that he gets paid like one as you're suggesting[/quote']

 

Which is why I think he goes back into the draft. Remember who is advising him and I guarantee you Boras is using the Brackman negotiations to guide these negotiations. I guarantee it. And he should ask for more. He's a top talent who fell for injury concerns. But in Ranaudo's case, he's shown that he isnt hurt. So, he should get more money.

[Nutriaitch]

Which is why I think he goes back into the draft.

 

i'll be shocked if he comes back to LSU.

 

this year he dropped from possible top 3 pick to supplemental round because of a minor injury.

 

right now, he has the leverage of threatening to come back.

next year, if he has another injury or just a bad season, he'll have zero leverage to increase his contract offers.

[jacksonianmarch]

Boras isnt afraid to send a guy to Indy ball. Aaron Crow and Luke Hochevar increased their draft status by doing that.

[italstallianion]

Boras isnt afraid to send a guy to Indy ball. Aaron Crow and Luke Hochevar increased their draft status by doing that.

 

 

I thought that Aaron Crow was picked later in the following draft. He was selected 9th overall by the Nationals in 2008, didn't sign, played with the Fort Worth Cats, and was selected 12th overall in 2009 by the Royals.

[jacksonianmarch]

He got a pretty nice bonus out of it though. That is what I meant. He got 3 mil.

[Yaz Sideburn]

it's unlikely that ranaudo goes back to lsu or to indy ball. those may be the desperate negotiation tactics that boras tries to use, but this is probably the highest his stock will get. and boras hasn't exactly been the best agent lately, i think he's starting to lose some of his credability

[jacksonianmarch]

How? He continues to get top dollar for his players

[Keeper]

So, what's the latest? Is Ranaudo going to sign?

[jacksonianmarch]

Its gonna be down to the wire, but right now the rumor is no

[msubulldogs21]

I'm curious how much Boras is asking for him.

[Yaz Sideburn]

Its gonna be down to the wire' date=' but right now the rumor is no[/quote']

 

source?

[Palodios]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/baseball/news?slug=kr-draftscoop080410

 

Ranaudo is preparing to return to college and has put together a class schedule. However, sources still believe Ranaudo and the Red Sox will get a deal done. Boston is well aware what it will take to sign him.

 

 

August 4th.

 

Best I could find.

[jacksonianmarch]

Don't have a link for you yet. But it isn't uncommon for Boras clients to make it known that they are leaning toward heading back to school. Most boras clients sign on deadline day. Also, read the same article as described above

[Yaz Sideburn]

Don't have a link for you yet. But it isn't uncommon for Boras clients to make it known that they are leaning toward heading back to school. Most boras clients sign on deadline day. Also' date=' read the same article as described above[/quote']

 

so in other words, it's simply speculation on your part that he won't sign. the article above says that the rumor is that he will most likely sign

[jacksonianmarch]

Wrong again. Seriously, dude, you get more ornery as more sox players drop like flies. Put it this way, the sox know what it is going to take to sign him. Boras is the agent. Right now, they arent close.

[Yaz Sideburn]

Wrong again. Seriously' date=' dude, you get more ornery as more sox players drop like flies. Put it this way, the sox know what it is going to take to sign him. Boras is the agent. Right now, they arent close.[/quote']

 

you said the rumor is that ranaudo won't sign so i asked you for a source like any normal person would do. the only source you've pointed to says that he most likely will sign

 

seems pretty logical to conclude that the "rumor" about him not signing is speculation on your part

[italstallianion]

you said the rumor is that ranaudo won't sign so i asked you for a source like any normal person would do. the only source you've pointed to says that he most likely will sign

 

seems pretty logical to conclude that the "rumor" about him not signing is speculation on your part

 

 

 

Sorry dude, but I have to defend Jacko on this one. Jacko did not say that the rumor was that he wasn't going to sign. He said that the rumor was that Ranaudo was floating with the idea of going back to school (ie getting his class schedule) and Jacko said that Boras does this ALL THE TIME, in order to get negotiating leverage.

 

If anything, it looks like Jacko was implying that he will sign, just that Boras was doing whatever he can to take the process to the final day in order to get more money.