Red Sox injury updates

[Spudboy]

Lowrie is a utility player for this franchise' date=' nothing more.[/quote']

 

Not if he can stay healthy. Although, if the rest of the infield is healthy, he has no full-time position. Third base may be open next year.

[WhiskeyBreath]

Not if he can stay healthy. Although' date=' if the rest of the infield is healthy, he has no full-time position. Third base may be open next year.[/quote']

 

That's what I meant by my post. There isn't an opening on this team for him right now and I really don't see them going into next season with him as their starting 3B.

[Dojji]

When you say "nothing more" the implication is that you've defined a guy's ceiling, not just his role. I think that's why you got the reaction you did. Sure, Lowrie isn't going to be our starting 3B but if we need a guy who can play for a couple weeks in a row at 2B or SS no one would have a problem with that guy being Lowrie. He might actually be a better defensive SS than Scutaro and he can handle himself at second as well.

 

If we're in any danger of Lowrie playing third base regularly for us, I think the Sox will take delivery of Michael Young instead on a salary dump. Lowrie just doesn't have the arm to play third. I consider him a pure 2B-SS

[Palodios]

 

If we're in any danger of Lowrie playing third base regularly for us, I think the Sox will take delivery of Michael Young instead on a salary dump. Lowrie just doesn't have the arm to play third.

 

The rest of Young's contract is 3/48. Why not just grab Beltre at that rate?

[Dojji]

Young's track record in non-contract years is better. And we get 2 picks.

[Spudboy]

That's what I meant by my post. There isn't an opening on this team for him right now and I really don't see them going into next season with him as their starting 3B.

 

I sort of figured that out as I was typing my response!

 

When you say "nothing more" the implication is that you've defined a guy's ceiling, not just his role. I think that's why you got the reaction you did. Sure, Lowrie isn't going to be our starting 3B but if we need a guy who can play for a couple weeks in a row at 2B or SS no one would have a problem with that guy being Lowrie. He might actually be a better defensive SS than Scutaro and he can handle himself at second as well.

 

If we're in any danger of Lowrie playing third base regularly for us, I think the Sox will take delivery of Michael Young instead on a salary dump. Lowrie just doesn't have the arm to play third.

 

I understand what WB was saying. I'm not as quick to dismiss his arm. I haven't seen enough of him at third to make that judgment. He has a decent arm from the hole.

 

I guess there would be the issue of his power. I don't see him hitting 20-25 HR , but I do believe he'd smack a bunch of doubles.

[WhiskeyBreath]

The rest of Young's contract is 3/48. Why not just grab Beltre at that rate?

 

That's what I was thinking. The one reason I could come up with would be is that you know what you would get with Young year in and year out. However, I wouldn't make the move for Young.

[Dojji]

I'd move a prospect and ask the Rangers to eat about $5M/year, and if they did, I'd take on the rest.

[Divinity]

Youk is done for the season, and with him goes any hope for the Sox this season.

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I concur, this is probably the nail in the coffin for any hope the Sox had to make the playoffs this season. Injuries have really plagued the team this year between Beckett, Ellsbury, V-Mart, Pedroia and now Youkilis.

[Dojji]

http://www.nesn.com/2010/08/report-red-sox-interested-in-carlos-delgado.html

 

Sox checking out Carlos Delgado.

 

No reason why not, although it might mean Ortiz plays first as he's actually better at it than Delgado.

[Keeper]

What makes you think Ortiz is a better first baseman than Delgado?

[jacksonianmarch]

I shouldn't have to lecture you about the difference between serving in a role and being defined by it. So I won't insult your intelligence by assuming you don't know the difference.

 

Lowrie will play backup infield next year. That does not mean that he is no more than a utility man. It simply means that that's his best role next year, much like Youkilis best served the team as a backup 3B in 2004 and 2005 at a similar age. (OK OK, the team should have moved him to first in 2005 instead of screwing around with Millar and Petagine and Olderdude and who knows who, but still)

 

Lowrie might end up being the sox starting 3b next yr

[jacksonianmarch]

And the Youkilis injury is the nail in the coffin. They're down 7 in the L column and now lose their best hitter for the season. Interesting to see how the offseason goes

[ORS]

I'd move a prospect and ask the Rangers to eat about $5M/year' date=' and if they did, I'd take on the rest.[/quote']

They just went to auction as a bankrupt franchise. Good luck with that.

[Yaz Sideburn]

That's what I meant by my post. There isn't an opening on this team for him right now and I really don't see them going into next season with him as their starting 3B.

 

the poster you responded to was talking long term, not just next year

[Yaz Sideburn]

And the Youkilis injury is the nail in the coffin. They're down 7 in the L column and now lose their best hitter for the season. Interesting to see how the offseason goes

 

they're still very much alive

[Palodios]

Carlos Delgado is working out for the Sox this week. He hasn't played in a year, but during his last full season in 2008, he hit 38 HR with .871 OPS. Even during his short stint in 2009, he played well. I see them outbidding for him to end this season and seeing what he can do.

[Dojji]

The interesting thing about Delgado is that if he comes up, hits and makes an impact, he'd stand a chance of being at least a Type B FA if some other team decided to invest in a DH.

[Dojji]

They just went to auction as a bankrupt franchise. Good luck with that.

 

I don't think that enters into it. I'd be saving them what, $11M a year and offering them a prospect? If anything, a cash strapped team jumps at that all the harder. That and they're under new ownership so the brokishness of the old one isn't as much of a factor.

[Palodios]

The interesting thing about Delgado is that if he comes up' date=' hits and makes an impact, he'd stand a chance of being at least a Type B FA if some other team decided to invest in a DH.[/quote']

 

Aren't free agents generally rated on their last two years? Between 2009, and 2010, he's only played one and half months. He doesn't even show up on Elias rankings now.

[Dojji]

Consider that Eric Gagne was a Type A free agent when Texas signed him in 2006. Unless they tweaked the formula it seems to be based on what you do, not how often you do it.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

And the Youkilis injury is the nail in the coffin. They're down 7 in the L column and now lose their best hitter for the season. Interesting to see how the offseason goes

Pretty much.

[jacksonianmarch]

Even if Delgado clubs 20 homers in a month plus, he will not make the rankings

[Yaz Sideburn]

it's way too early to be counting games in the loss column. there are 50 games left and the sox play the yankees 10 times and the rays 6 times. they're going to have to play a dominant stretch of baseball to make the playoffs, but they're still in control of their destiny at this point

[Palodios]

Agreed, the Rockies were 6 games back in September of 2007, and they still got there.

 

 

In other news, Okajima is feeling discomfort in his hamstring and they rushed him to the trainer after his outing last night. Why couldn't he have been feeling discomfort at the beginning of the season?

[Yaz Sideburn]

Agreed, the Rockies were 6 games back in September of 2007, and they still got there.

 

 

In other news, Okajima is feeling discomfort in his hamstring and they rushed him to the trainer after his outing last night. Why couldn't he have been feeling discomfort at the beginning of the season?

 

i'd much rather see richardson in the bullpen than okajima. richardson hasn't spent much time in the majors, but he's done well in the chances he's been given

[jacksonianmarch]

it's way too early to be counting games in the loss column. there are 50 games left and the sox play the yankees 10 times and the rays 6 times. they're going to have to play a dominant stretch of baseball to make the playoffs' date=' but they're still in control of their destiny at this point[/quote']

 

and the next 4 are being played without Pedroia or Youkilis and with a sox pen that is significantly worse than years past. The fact is, the Rockies made it in 07 because, A. they went on an unprecedented run, and B. They are in the NL West, the AAA of all divisions. Mark it now. The Youkilis injury ended the sox chances of catching the Yankees. Period

[Yaz Sideburn]

and the next 4 are being played without Pedroia or Youkilis and with a sox pen that is significantly worse than years past. The fact is' date=' the Rockies made it in 07 because, A. they went on an unprecedented run, and B. They are in the NL West, the AAA of all divisions. Mark it now. The Youkilis injury ended the sox chances of catching the Yankees. Period[/quote']

 

if only the season was 4 months long, eh? unfortunately for you and the yankees, there's still plenty of time left and this is the healthiest the sox have been in a long time

 

anyone who understands baseball knows that anything can happen

[yankees228]

and the next 4 are being played without Pedroia or Youkilis and with a sox pen that is significantly worse than years past. The fact is' date=' the Rockies made it in 07 because, A. they went on an unprecedented run, and B. They are in the NL West, the AAA of all divisions. Mark it now. The Youkilis injury ended the sox chances of catching the Yankees. Period[/quote']

 

The pitching heavily favors the Red Sox this weekend. Them winning three out of four is a legitimate possibility.

[italstallianion]

and the next 4 are being played without Pedroia or Youkilis and with a sox pen that is significantly worse than years past. The fact is' date=' the Rockies made it in 07 because, A. they went on an unprecedented run, and B. They are in the NL West, the AAA of all divisions. Mark it now. The Youkilis injury ended the sox chances of catching the Yankees. Period[/quote']

 

 

In all fairness, I thought that the Red Sox were out of the playoffs before the Youkilis injury.