Boston RedSox 2010 performance/post game reaction thread.

[SCM33]

Can we move along before this thread gets closed please?

[example1]

The Red Sox have a cumulative .809 OPS, second in baseball behind the Yankees at .831. Let's hope that continues.

[a700hitter]

It's a surprising statistic, especially in light of the OF injuries. Scutaro has reversed the drag that the SS position was on our offense. Varitek playing out of his mind Beltre hitting like an animal are also responsible for this suprising stat. They will come back to earth, but VMart, Ellsbury and Ortiz should pick up their pace.

[Dipre]

The Red Sox have a cumulative .809 OPS' date=' second in baseball behind the Yankees at .831. Let's hope that continues.[/quote']

 

They're also second in XBH with 126, second only to the Blue Jays' 150.

[TedWilliams101]

The Red Sox have a cumulative .809 OPS' date=' second in baseball behind the Yankees at .831. Let's hope that continues.[/quote']

 

And that's pretty impressive considering the fact that 2 of our starting OF have been on the DL for most of the young season and Vmart, Ortiz, and Beltre aren't hitting for power (though they are coming around now).

[VA Sox Fan]

From Nick Cafardo in the Globe:

 

Look at who the divisional leaders were May 11, 2009:

 

AL EAST:

Toronto - 22-12

Eventual winner: Yankees - 15-16

 

AL CENTRAL:

Kansas City - 18-14

Eventual winner: Twins - 15-17

 

AL WEST:

Texas - 17-14

Eventual winner: Angels - 16-14

 

NL EAST:

Mets -17-14

Eventual winner: Philadelphia - 15-14

 

NL CENTRAL:

 

Cardinals - 20-12 (eventual winner)

 

NL West:

Dodgers - 22-11 (eventual winner).

[jacksonianmarch]

The sox are starting to revert back to baseline dominance at home. That being said, dominating the Jays at home is no huge feat.

[Chamomile]

Like it or not, wins all count the same.

[redsoxrules]

The sox are starting to revert back to baseline dominance at home. That being said' date=' dominating the Jays at home is no huge feat.[/quote']

 

[Dipre]

The sox are starting to revert back to baseline dominance at home. That being said' date=' dominating the Jays at home is no huge feat.[/quote']

 

Unless it was the Yankees dominating at home, because then it would have been feat greater than the slaying of Goliath by David.

[schillingouttheks]

Unless it was the Yankees dominating at home' date=' because then it would have been feat greater than the slaying of Goliath by David.[/quote']

 

I hate this analogy, mainly because it's so misused. It's a different discussion, but a close reading of the text and an understanding of the context of the greater work of the Old Testament suggests David was never at a disadvantage.

 

But like I said, this is another discussion.

[Dipre]

I hate this analogy, mainly because it's so misused. It's a different discussion, but a close reading of the text and an understanding of the context of the greater work of the Old Testament suggests David was never at a disadvantage.

 

But like I said, this is another discussion.

 

My God dude.

[schillingouttheks]

lol, I know, completely random but every time a sportscaster pits David vs. Goliath in the context of sports teams it irritates me. Just a pet peeve.

 

Carry on.

[Dojji]

a close reading of the text and an understanding of the context of the greater work of the Old Testament suggests David was never at a disadvantage.

 

"It's just a sling," yeah, a good slingsman could hurl a stone nearly as fast as an old-fashioned flintlock musket could fire a bullet, and all you need it work is a handy source of round-enough rocks. And then there's "staff slings." Vicious in the right hands and one of the most underrated weapons ever.

 

Also the kid was apparently a real physical specimen, and had killed tougher things than Goliath by the time he brought the big man down.

 

Now if you want a real I'm-at-a-huge-disadvantage-and-win-anyway Biblical moment, go check out Gideon.

[schillingouttheks]

"It's just a sling," yeah, a good slingsman could hurl a stone nearly as fast as an old-fashioned flintlock musket could fire a bullet, and all you need it work is a handy source of round-enough rocks.

 

Also the kid was apparently a real physical specimen, and had killed tougher things than Goliath by the time he brought the big man down.

 

Now if you want a real I'm-at-a-huge-disadvantage-and-win-anyway Biblical moment, go check out Gideon.

 

Sorta, but it's more of the fact that he had, you know... God in his back pocket ... and Goliath didn't. God favored those who revered him in their actions, and David was one who praised God in nearly everything he was able to do... when you contrast to his predecessor on the throne, Saul, it's easy to see why God was on David's side. I could go into much more detail and pick out specific verses and such, but that's the gist of it. (Saul had also given him his armor and sword but David realized that it would only slow him down instead of giving him flexibility in range of motion.)

 

Goliath is the one who never had a chance... anyway, I hate to digress. Whoops.

[Dojji]

Sorta, but it's more of the fact that he had, you know... God in his back pocket ... and Goliath didn't. God favored those who revered him in their actions, and David was one who praised God in nearly everything he was able to do... when you contrast to his predecessor on the throne, Saul, it's easy to see why God was on David's side. I could go into much more detail and pick out specific verses and such, but that's the gist of it. (Saul had also given him his armor and sword but David realized that it would only slow him down instead of giving him flexibility in range of motion.)

 

Goliath is the one who never had a chance... anyway, I hate to digress. Whoops.

 

Yeah, there's that too.

[Lester82]

I'll just stick this in this thread, but... I was listening to the baseball show on WEEI/Boston, and one of the hosts was saying the Red Sox are not even the third best team in baseball. They are not as good as the Twins.

 

Agree? I sure don't.

[Palodios]

Record against Yankees and Rays 2-8.

Record against other contenders(DET, TEX,LAA,MIN) 8-3

 

The best three teams in baseball are the Phillies, the Yankees, and the Rays, but I would argue that the Sox can beat just about anyone else.

[example1]

I'll just stick this in this thread, but... I was listening to the baseball show on WEEI/Boston, and one of the hosts was saying the Red Sox are not even the third best team in baseball. They are not as good as the Twins.

 

Agree? I sure don't.

 

I've found that it is very effective to call them and let them know that you disagree. That usually changes minds pretty quickly on WEEI.

[SoxSport]

I wouldn't write them off just yet. Their main problem is their pitching has sucked. 3rd from last in the league. TB/NY 1-2. They are 4th in hitting, and that's without Ellsbury and Cameron, so their hitting seems to be fine. It's the pitching that's bad, starting with Beckett. And all those 60+/1-inning appearances in the BP takes it toll after a couple years. Bullpens have a short life in the current baseball world.

[jacksonianmarch]

The sox are disjointed right now. Offense seems to click more than I expected, but still gets shut down by good pitching. The rotation is starting to move toward more consistency with DiceK coming off a good start, Lester putting it together, and Buchholz still giving quality starts (albeit finding his control elusive). But having Lackey be mediocre and Beckett be terrible has been a bit interesting. And the bullpen aside from Pap and most of Bard's work has been atrocious. Okajima looks like he's been figured out. Ramirez lost all semblance of control. MDC seems to get it done, albeit after walking the tightrope. And for some reason, Tito thinks Schoeneweis can get lefties out. I still think they get it together enough for around 90 wins, but I dont think that'll be enough this yr. TB looks really, really good and NY is a 100 win team

[a700hitter]

Why did Tito remove Delcarmen in the middle of an inning on Saturday night? He has been pitching well, and he goes to Schoenweiss to get a critical LH hitter. Memo to Tito and Theo, Schoenweiss sucks. The Mets let him walk away. If he is on the roster at all (which he should not be), he should never be brought in to pitch in a critical situation..never.

 

Memo 2 to Tito and Theo, switch the 1st and 3rd base coaches. Bogar has lost two games by sending runners home to their death, and this last time he got Pedroia injured. He is not worth the risk. Make the switch. It cost nothing. It may hurt Bogar's self -esteem, but who gives a f***. His confidence is irrelevant to the Sox winning games.

[Dipre]

The sox are disjointed right now. Offense seems to click more than I expected' date=' but still gets shut down by good pitching. The rotation is starting to move toward more consistency with DiceK coming off a good start, Lester putting it together, and Buchholz still giving quality starts (albeit finding his control elusive). But having Lackey be mediocre and Beckett be terrible has been a bit interesting. And the bullpen aside from Pap and most of Bard's work has been atrocious. Okajima looks like he's been figured out. Ramirez lost all semblance of control. MDC seems to get it done, albeit after walking the tightrope. And for some reason, Tito thinks Schoeneweis can get lefties out. I still think they get it together enough for around 90 wins, but I dont think that'll be enough this yr. TB looks really, really good and NY is a 100 win team[/quote']

 

Can you name me an offense that doesn't get shut down consistently by good pitching?

 

You've said several times good pitching shuts down good hitting when it suits your argument.

 

On a side note, the Sox could win 110 games and still look disjointed to you.

[jacksonianmarch]

the sox arent winning 110 games, so we wont find out.

 

And good pitching does shut down good hitting, but the sox seem to lie down when they face a good pitcher much more than they did in the past.

[Dipre]

the sox arent winning 110 games, so we wont find out.

 

And good pitching does shut down good hitting, but the sox seem to lie down when they face a good pitcher much more than they did in the past.

 

Do you have some way to back up your statement, or are you talking out of pure subjective opinion?

 

They "seem" doesn't cut it as fact.

[jacksonianmarch]

I am not talking as absolute unequivocal fact dumbass, I am talking about what I have seen. If you want me to, I can start footnoting and referencing all of my posts, but then again, this is a f***ing messageboard.

[Dipre]

I am not talking as absolute unequivocal fact dumbass' date=' I am talking about what I have seen. If you want me to, I can start footnoting and referencing all of my posts, but then again, this is a f***ing messageboard.[/quote']

 

Excellent backpedal when faced with a lack of a way to prove the "point" made. With immature insult included. Maybe you need a visit to youporn and "pictures" like Gom.

[jacksonianmarch]

Backpedal and immature insult? That is your forte. Listen champ, this is a messageboard, not an English class. By the way, how are you liking Lackey right now?

[Dipre]

Backpedal and immature insult? That is your forte. Listen champ' date=' this is a messageboard, not an English class. By the way, how are you liking Lackey right now?[/quote']

 

I'm liking Lackey better than Bay.

 

And don't try to reflect your tactics onto me, champ.

[a700hitter]

I'm liking Lackey better than Bay.

 

And don't try to reflect your tactics onto me, champ.

It did not need to be an either/or choice. Getting Lackey did not preclude getting Bay.