New York Yankees Gameday Thread

[Chamomile]

I'd agree' date=' if the plate was blocked. It wasn't, which makes this irrelevant.[/quote']

 

Was or wasn't the catcher attempting to block the plate?

 

Was or wasn't the catcher blocking a portion of the plate?

 

If a catcher attempts to block the plate, and is over the plate at all, he's fair game. If you don't like it, watch figure skating.

[Chamomile]

No we wouldn't. Almost the whole board called him an idiot for charging Porcello last year, just like they're calling Tex an ******* for that play now.

 

Btw, are you a Yankee or Red Sox fan?

 

Charging a pitcher isnt' the same as running over a catcher who's attempting to block the plate. Not even close. One is well within the rules and is how you're supposed to play the game, the other is not.

 

I'm a Red Sox fan, but I don't see why it should matter.

[a700hitter]

Intent to injure?

Ken Singleton said that he thought Tex might have been sending a message, because he was going to be safe either way. What message do you think he might have been trying to send? He wanted to give the guy a good lick that was completely unnecessary. I don't think he wanted it to feel good. Do you?

[ORS]

Was or wasn't the catcher attempting to block the plate?

 

Was or wasn't the catcher blocking a portion of the plate?

 

If a catcher attempts to block the plate, and is over the plate at all, he's fair game. If you don't like it, watch figure skating.

Attempting, yes. Blocking, no. Teixeira had a free path.

[Dipre]

Charging a pitcher isnt' the same as running over a catcher who's attempting to block the plate. Not even close. One is well within the rules and is how you're supposed to play the game, the other is not.

 

I'm a Red Sox fan, but I don't see why it should matter.

 

They are both examples of stupidity.

 

So because he's halfway blocking the plate you should charge him with your shoulder?

 

Well i don't like figure skating, but i don't like dirty baseball plays either. Agree to disagree.

[a700hitter]

Was or wasn't the catcher attempting to block the plate?

 

Was or wasn't the catcher blocking a portion of the plate?

 

If a catcher attempts to block the plate, and is over the plate at all, he's fair game. If you don't like it, watch figure skating.

Wasn't attempting to block the plate. Not any portion of the plate. It's quite clear.

[a700hitter]

The entire plate was open and the catcher was on the first base side of the plate.

[Chamomile]

Ken Singleton said that he thought Tex might have been sending a message' date=' because he was going to be safe either way. What message do you think he might have been trying to send? He wanted to give the guy a good lick that was completely unnecessary. I don't think he wanted it to feel good. Do you?[/quote']

 

Since when is "sending a message" the same is "intent to injure?" Pitchers try to send a message when they throw brush back pitches. Running over a catcher attempting to block the plate is part of baseball. And the point of a competitive sport isn't to make the opposing team feel good, in fact it's the opposite.

[ORS]

I disagree on the attempting, a700, he was definitely coming toward the plate to block it, but the collision occurred on the other side of the plate from 3rd base, which means his manuever to block in no way obstructed Teixeira's path to the plate. A foot slide gets in there 100 times out of 100.

[Chamomile]

Wasn't attempting to block the plate. Not any portion of the plate. It's quite clear.

 

Alright, if you're going to deny the fact that the catcher was attempting to block the plate and was hanging over the plate, there's no use in debating. The video CLEARLY indicates otherwise.

[a700hitter]

Since when is "sending a message" the same is "intent to injure?" Pitchers try to send a message when they throw brush back pitches. Running over a catcher attempting to block the plate is part of baseball. And the point of a competitive sport isn't to make the opposing team feel good' date=' in fact it's the opposite.[/quote']The hit was unecessary. He was expecting it to hurt, not feel good. Draw your own conclusion. I am sure that he didn't want to break any bones, but he did want to rattle the catcher's teeth. Sometimes when you try to hurt someone, an injury results.

[ORS]

Alright' date=' if you're going to deny the fact that the catcher was attempting to block the plate and was hanging over the plate, there's no use in debating. The video CLEARLY indicates otherwise.[/quote']

And it clearly indicates other things that you are conveniently ignoring.

[Chamomile]

And it clearly indicates other things that you are conveniently ignoring.

 

Sorry if I don't fit in because I'm not saying that Teixeira made a dirty play and/or had "intent to injure" but I think my assessment that he didn't need to run over the catcher to score, but that it's fair game to run over a catcher attempting to block the plate is pretty fair and accurate. It's not like he went outside the baseline to hit the catcher. The collision happened over home plate.

[yankees228]

Disappointing that Joe didn't go to Marte to face Matsui and Morales, and then went to Joba. Would have been the correct move in my opinion.

[a700hitter]

Alright' date=' if you're going to deny the fact that the catcher was attempting to block the plate and was hanging over the plate, there's no use in debating. The video CLEARLY indicates otherwise.[/quote']He was trying to catch the ball and come back to make the tag. Catchers block the plate with there legs, not their upper-bodies. He was trying to catch the ball an swing back to make the play. The throw came in high at his chest so he was trying to trap/catch the ball a swing back to get the runner. Catchers set up with their legs to block the plate. He clearly did not. Scioscia teaches his catchers the right way to block the plate. Again, Tex had to step over the plate to get to the catcher. I watched it live, and YES showed other angles. This was a dirty play and YES called it the right way.

[a700hitter]

Boy, Joba looks like s***.

[Chamomile]

Disappointing that Joe didn't go to Marte to face Matsui and Morales' date=' and then went to Joba. Would have been the correct move in my opinion.[/quote']

 

It seems like you're awfully critical of Girardi, and I'm not saying whether you're being fair or not in your criticisms of him. But it's easy to make that assessment AFTER Chamberlain gives up a hit to the leadoff hitter.

[yankees228]

Nice to see Girardi continuing to hurt this team. They won despite him last year, and are in a position where they'll have to do the same thing this year.

[yankees228]

It seems like you're awfully critical of Girardi' date=' and I'm not saying whether you're being fair or not in your criticisms of him. But it's easy to make that assessment AFTER Chamberlain gives up a hit to the leadoff hitter.[/quote']

 

Obviously I can't prove this, but I wanted him in before anything happened.

[Chamomile]

Boy' date=' Joba looks like s***.[/quote']

 

He's been hit or miss all year. For the most part, he's been throwing in the low 90's and he's had trouble locating his slider.

[italstallianion]

Oddly enough I had dropped Alfredo Aceves after he f***** my team against Texas and picked up Joba Chamberlain and he f**** me even when the Yankees lose.

[Chamomile]

Obviously I can't prove this' date=' but I wanted him in before anything happened.[/quote']

 

By all means, please speak up before a move that Girardi makes doesn't work out next time. I've seen you criticize Girardi quite a bit, but it seems like you almost always do it after the Yankees lose a game or give up a big hit.

[a700hitter]

It seems like you're awfully critical of Girardi' date=' and I'm not saying whether you're being fair or not in your criticisms of him. But it's easy to make that assessment AFTER Chamberlain gives up a hit to the leadoff hitter.[/quote']228 has been critical of Girardi since last season, and his disagreements have most often been stated up front, not after the fact.

[Chamomile]

If I'm the Angels, I'd have to put down a sac bunt here (my video's on a delay and Izturis just came up).

[Chamomile]

228 has been critical of Girardi since last season' date=' and his disagreements have most often been stated up front, not after the fact.[/quote']

 

I'm new, so I've only seen his criticisms this year. And I've yet to see him criticize a move that Girardi's made before it worked out badly, that then worked out badly.

[a700hitter]

By all means' date=' please speak up before a move that Girardi makes doesn't work out next time. I've seen you criticize Girardi quite a bit, but it seems like you almost always do it after the Yankees lose a game or give up a big hit.[/quote']You are pretty new. 228 has not been that critical of Girardi yet. Tell us a little about yourself. Maybe post some picture so we can see who we are dealing with. You remind me of someone.

[yankees228]

By all means' date=' please speak up before a move that Girardi makes doesn't work out next time. I've seen you criticize Girardi quite a bit, but it seems like you almost always do it after the Yankees lose a game or give up a big hit.[/quote']

 

Well, while I didn't post it before Matsui's single, I did post it before the home run. As for my other criticisms, they mainly came in the second game of the series against the Angels (second week of the season). Both of those complaints, pitching to Morales and his misuse of Aceves, were posted before anything happened. I'm not sure what else you're referring to.

[Chamomile]

You are pretty new. 228 has not been that critical of Girardi yet. Tell us a little about yourself. Maybe post some picture so we can see who we are dealing with. You remind me of someone.

 

See who you are dealing with? Relax, this is just the internet my friend.

[Chamomile]

Well' date=' while I didn't post it before Matsui's single, I did post it before the home run. As for my other criticisms, they mainly came in the second game of the series against the Angels (second week of the season). Both of those complaints, pitching to Morales and his misuse of Aceves, were posted before anything happened. I'm not sure what else you're referring to.[/quote']

 

I've only really seen your Joe Girardi thread and those were all after the fact. Can you show me posts you made that were critical of Joe, before the moves went badly?

[a700hitter]

See who you are dealing with? Relax' date=' this is just the internet my friend.[/quote']You just remind me of someone used to post here.