New York Yankees Gameday Thread

[a700hitter]

Diony did his part to man the douchebag defense squad. Another fine example of why it was such a good idea to let him back. His contributions to the board are limitless.

The guy is a zero. he never contributed anything. It's not like he was a good poster that had a meltdown meriting a temporary ban. He has never been anything but a troll. Bring down the ban hammer.:banned:

[diony]

Jesus christ, it was just a comment. Stop taking it so seriously.

 

Swish bomb 4-4.

[ORS]

I didn't see the play. Was what Teixeira did OK by the current standards of acceptable play and sportsmanshp, diony? You mock the injury of a young player, this suggests you are OK with that. Please expand on your "commentary".

[a700hitter]

I didn't see the play. Was what Teixeira did OK by the current standards of acceptable play and sportsmanshp' date=' diony? You mock the injury of a young player, this suggests you are OK with that. Please expand on your "commentary".[/quote']The YES crew hammered Tex very hard. They are expecting retribution a some point during the series.

[diony]

I didn't see the play. Was what Teixeira did OK by the current standards of acceptable play and sportsmanshp' date=' diony? You mock the injury of a young player, this suggests you are OK with that. Please expand on your "commentary".[/quote']

 

Not it wasn't.

[ORS]

So your comment was meant to do what, then?

[diony]

So your comment was meant to do what' date=' then?[/quote']

 

Mock how a700 called him "kid catcher".

[YeAuldBroade]

Is this play anywhere on the internet. I didn't see it either and it's driving me nuts, this is an interesting conversation.

[ORS]

Mock how a700 called him "kid catcher".

Mockery. You do a lot of this. Plan on contributing anything else?

[Chamomile]

I saw the play, it was clean by Teixeira. First of all, the Angels hit him to put him on base, and there may have been some intent. And as for the collision, the catcher was trying to catch the ball and block the plate at the same time, but they were up the first base line to receive the ball. They leaned over try to try to block the plate and Tex crashed into him shoulder first. Nothing wrong with that.

[a700hitter]

I saw the play' date=' it was clean by Teixeira. First of all, the Angels hit him to put him on base, and there may have been some intent. And as for the collision, the catcher was trying to catch the ball and block the plate at the same time, but they were up the first base line to receive the ball. They leaned over try to try to block the plate and Tex crashed into him shoulder first. Nothing wrong with that.[/quote']So, you disagree with the entire homer YES broadcasting crew that called it unnecessary. They said if the kid had been blocking the plate, it would have been a clean play, but they noted that he was giving Tex the entire plate.

[ORS]

Again, I didn't see the play, but could Teixeira have avoided contact and touched the plate? From what 700 says, it sounds like he could have, and if he could, I think I'd have a hard time calling the play clean.

 

As for the HBP, why hit a guy in slump to face a superior hitter, who is hot, with a runner on? Intent seems unlikely.

[Chamomile]

I guess we agree to disagree then. From what I've seen' date=' Cano was a poor defensive player and Jeter has been a poor defensive player this year.[/quote']

 

Yankees228, I know we disagreed on whether Jeter and Cano looked good defensively this year earlier. The first UZR stats are out and Jeter and Cano are dead last on the team according to UZR so far this year. It's still very early to make any decisions any their defense but it seems to back up the notion that so far they've struggled to get to some balls.

[a700hitter]

Here's the link to the video of the play with the Yankee announcers commentary. make your own decision.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7620275

[Chamomile]

Hindsight is 20/20. In hindsight, when you play it in slow motion, it looks like Teixeira could have crossed home plate without a collision. But he would have had to slide in hands first and risk a broken finger or do an athletic dance around the catcher. The catcher was attempting to block the plate but he didn't have his legs underneath him because he was up the first base line. That's why the catcher got hurt. It looked like he twisted one of his legs underneath him when he leaned into the baseline and got plowed over by Teixeira.

 

It's easy to look at the play in slow motion, after the fact and say that it was unnecessary for Teixeira to slide into the catcher. But it was a split second decision by Teixeira and it was a clean hit. It's not like he threw an elbow or anything.

 

This is baseball, not ballet. A runner has every right to run into a fielder in the baseline attempting to tag them out.

[ORS]

Wow, totally uncalled for. Dick move.

[Chamomile]

Here's the link to the video of the play with the Yankee announcers commentary. make your own decision.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7620275

 

The second slow motion view of the give of the play (from down the third base line) is pretty conclusive. The catcher was leaning over almost half the of the plate at the time of the collision, and was trying to block the plate with his shoulder. He was moving towards Teixeira and leaning into the hit at the time of impact.

[ORS]

Hindsight is 20/20. In hindsight, when you play it in slow motion, it looks like Teixeira could have crossed home plate without a collision. But he would have had to slide in hands first and risk a broken finger or do an athletic dance around the catcher. The catcher was attempting to block the plate but he didn't have his legs underneath him because he was up the first base line. That's why the catcher got hurt. It looked like he twisted one of his legs underneath him when he leaned into the baseline and got plowed over by Teixeira.

 

It's easy to look at the play in slow motion, after the fact and say that it was unnecessary for Teixeira to slide into the catcher. But it was a split second decision by Teixeira and it was a clean hit. It's not like he threw an elbow or anything.

 

This is baseball, not ballet. A runner has every right to run into a fielder in the baseline attempting to tag them out.

What are you talking about? He could have easily slid in feet first. And, the catcher didn't get hurt because his feet weren't underneath him, he got hurt because Teixeira went in shoulder first. If he goes in feet first, the catcher gets toppled and that's it.

[a700hitter]

Hindsight is 20/20. In hindsight, when you play it in slow motion, it looks like Teixeira could have crossed home plate without a collision. But he would have had to slide in hands first and risk a broken finger or do an athletic dance around the catcher. The catcher was attempting to block the plate but he didn't have his legs underneath him because he was up the first base line. That's why the catcher got hurt. It looked like he twisted one of his legs underneath him when he leaned into the baseline and got plowed over by Teixeira.

 

It's easy to look at the play in slow motion, after the fact and say that it was unnecessary for Teixeira to slide into the catcher. But it was a split second decision by Teixeira and it was a clean hit. It's not like he threw an elbow or anything.

 

This is baseball, not ballet. A runner has every right to run into a fielder in the baseline attempting to tag them out.

The Yankee announcers' analysis said it all. When a runner is coming to the plate, the one thing he notices is where the catcher is and whether he can see the plate. The whole plate was open and the catcher was on the first base side of the plate. Tex actually stepped over the plate to hammer the catcher. This was not a bang bang play where the catcher was blocking the plate or the baseline. Sorry, but this was egregiously dirty and the YES announcers called it the right way.

[Chamomile]

What are you talking about? He could have easily slid in feet first. And' date=' the catcher didn't get hurt because his feet weren't underneath him, he got hurt because Teixeira went in shoulder first. If he goes in feet first, the catcher gets toppled and that's it.[/quote']

 

As a baserunner, you're supposed to go in shoulder first if the catcher is attempting to block the plate with their upper body. I can't believe people are taking issue with a baserunner running over a catcher who was blocking the plate in a tie game.

[a700hitter]

Wow' date=' totally uncalled for. Dick move.[/quote']Really dirty. I do feel bad for that kid. He may never get another shot at the majors. He doesn't have the security of a $100 million + guaranteed contract.

[ORS]

The Yankee announcers' analysis said it all. When a runner is coming to the plate' date=' the one thing he notices is where the catcher is and whether he can see the plate. [b']The whole plate was open and the catcher was on the first base side of the plate. Tex actually stepped over the plate to hammer the catcher. [/b]This was not a bang bang play where the catcher was blocking the plate or the baseline. Sorry, but this was egregiously dirty and the YES announcers called it the right way.

This, a lot of this.

[Chamomile]

Sorry' date=' but this was egregiously dirty and the YES announcers called it the right way.[/quote']

 

I'm pretty sure the YES announcers never called it dirty. They simply said, in hindsight, watching it in slow motion, that Tex may be have been able to slide into the plate without a collision.

[a700hitter]

As a baserunner' date=' you're supposed to go in shoulder first if the catcher is attempting to block the plate with their upper body. I can't believe people are taking issue with a baserunner running over a catcher who was blocking the plate in a tie game.[/quote']Check the video again. Maybe you need the braile version. The catcher was not close to blocking the plate. Like I said, Tex actually stepped over the plate to get to the catcher. There was intent to injure.

[Chamomile]

If Youkilis made the same play, he'd get a "Youuuuuuk" chant and we'd be calling him a hard nosed player.

[ORS]

As a baserunner' date=' you're supposed to go in shoulder first if the catcher is attempting to block the plate with their upper body. I can't believe people are taking issue with a baserunner running over a catcher who was blocking the plate in a tie game.[/quote']

I'd agree, if the plate was blocked. It wasn't, which makes this irrelevant.

[Chamomile]

Check the video again. Maybe you need the braile version. The catcher was not close to blocking the plate. Like I said' date=' Tex actually stepped over the plate to get to the catcher. There was intent to injure.[/quote']

 

Intent to injure?

[a700hitter]

I'm pretty sure the YES announcers never called it dirty. They simply said' date=' in hindsight, watching it in slow motion, that Tex may be have been able to slide into the plate without a collision.[/quote']They said that if he had been blocking the plate it would have been a clean plate, but they noted several times that he was not blocking the plate. They basically called it dirty without using that word. They are the Yankee announcers. Listen to the commentary again on the video.

[Dipre]

If Youkilis made the same play' date=' he'd get a "Youuuuuuk" chant and we'd be calling him a hard nosed player.[/quote']

 

No we wouldn't. Almost the whole board called him an idiot for charging Porcello last year, just like they're calling Tex an ******* for that play now.

 

Btw, are you a Yankee or Red Sox fan?

[ORS]

If Youkilis made the same play' date=' he'd get a "Youuuuuuk" chant and we'd be calling him a hard nosed player.[/quote']

This is where you are taking your argument? I think you are fading.