Sox Considering Moving Pedroia to SS

[Dojji]

To move Pedroia to SS' date=' they'd need to find a very good 2B and upgrade at 3B as well.[/quote']

 

Orlando Hudson and Adrian Beltre are both free agents IIRC.

 

So, at third base, is Pedro Feliz.

 

I'd rather just run Lowrie out there at short and leave one of our most valuable players right where he is. There's something to be said for changing things up, but when fixing an engine, one of the imperatives is not to break anything that actually still works.

[Dipre]

Orlando Hudson and Adrian Beltre are both free agents IIRC.

 

So, at third base, is Pedro Feliz.

 

I'd rather just run Lowrie out there at short and leave one of our most valuable players right where he is. There's something to be said for changing things up, but when fixing an engine, one of the imperatives is not to break anything that actually still works.

 

Lowrie.Can.Not.Stay.Healthy.

[jamestcusa]

that would make some room for some more bats in the line up so why not?

[Emmz]

Orlando Hudson and Adrian Beltre are both free agents IIRC.

 

So, at third base, is Pedro Feliz.

 

I'd rather just run Lowrie out there at short and leave one of our most valuable players right where he is. There's something to be said for changing things up, but when fixing an engine, one of the imperatives is not to break anything that actually still works.

 

If he can play SS, it would be pretty awesome, because we could explore 2B and 3B options, rather than SS and 3B options. I think that his past record proves that he has what it takes to play the position well. It could really, really help. I actually like this idea.

[Emmz]

Lowrie.Can.Not.Stay.Healthy.

 

This as well.

[CoachC.]

"When the idea of moving back to shortstop was floated to me, I welcomed it," says Pedroia. "I'm excited. Tell Derek (Jeter) to enjoy the gold glove and silver slugger awards while he can. Obviously, I'm not serious about the fun I have with Derek, but I'm never stopping believing in the goal. I believe I can play shortstop and help get the Red Sox back where they belong."

 

Was there even a chance AT ALL he would say no?

[Dipre]

Was there even a chance AT ALL he would say no?

 

He'd probably welcome the idea of catching and pitching too.

 

Kid's a true gamer.

[Dojji]

Lowrie.Can.Not.Stay.Healthy.

 

Eh, all his problems hail back to one injury. I'm not going to write the guy's whole career off because of one forearm fracture that didn't heal as fast as we wanted it to. We all know how tricky forearm fractures are.

 

the appropriate respnse to injury issues is to stockpile depth (guys like Tug Hulett or Nick Green), not give up on the guy entirely.

[redsoxrules]

Orlando Hudson and Adrian Beltre are both free agents IIRC.

 

So, at third base, is Pedro Feliz.

 

I'd rather just run Lowrie out there at short and leave one of our most valuable players right where he is. There's something to be said for changing things up, but when fixing an engine, one of the imperatives is not to break anything that actually still works.

 

that's a great idea , lets just give it to someone who cant stay healthy

[Dipre]

Eh, all his problems hail back to one injury. I'm not going to write the guy's whole career off because of one forearm fracture that didn't heal as fast as we wanted it to. We all know how tricky forearm fractures are.

 

the appropriate respnse to injury issues is to stockpile depth (guys like Tug Hulett or Nick Green), not give up on the guy entirely.

 

This is failthought.

 

The FO plans to start Lowrie in AAA and take him slow until he shows he's healthy. Hulett and Green both suck, and they want to ensure a healthy starter for the SS and that is what logic would dictate.

 

And it's not a forearm fracture, it's the wrist, which is a much more serious and complicated injury.

 

They trusted him with the position last year and look what happened, they learned from that mistake, so why would you advocate they repeat it?

[Dojji]

Thought it was actually close to the wrist, but that the actual injury was on the forearm. Read that once when I was lurking at Soxprospects.

[Dipre]

Thought it was actually close to the wrist' date=' but that the actual injury was on the forearm. Read that once when I was lurking at Soxprospects.[/quote']

 

Jed Lowrie placed on disabled list

 

The Red Sox today placed shortstop Jed Lowrie on the 15-day disabled list with ulnar neuritis in his left wrist.

[ehaz]

Orlando Hudson was just denied an arbitration offer from the Dodgers. The type A free agent won't cost a draft pick anymore.

[TheKilo]

I don't see the benefit of making a hole to plug another. I'd rather just keep 2b the strength it has been the last three years.

[Dipre]

I don't see the benefit of making a hole to plug another. I'd rather just keep 2b the strength it has been the last three years.

 

I think this is a worst-case scenario.

[Wells]

I like the idea.. I don't think it'll actually happen but I am into interesting..

 

s***, we won 95 games with s***** SS's last year and at least Pedroia can stop a f***ing ground ball.. there are better short term fixes @ 2b then at SS via trade or FA.. I say f***ing go for it .. I really don't see 2010 as the year we go balls out again anyway

[Dojji]

I don't see the benefit of making a hole to plug another. I'd rather just keep 2b the strength it has been the last three years.

 

you make one hole to plug another, when the hole you plug is harder to fill than the one you make.

[Spudboy]

It won't happen.

 

This is just camouflage.

 

I don't know what Theo has in mind. I only hope he makes a prudent move (not signing Scutaro for 2-3 years).

[example1]

It won't happen.

 

This is just camouflage.

 

I don't know what Theo has in mind. I only hope he makes a prudent move (not signing Scutaro for 2-3 years).

 

I would guess that he has a number of scenarios in mind. These likely include verious possibilities about the SS position and are dependant on how the market plays out.

 

It is possible that they won't get anyone for SS and will prefer to look at getting another 2B if those options are better. I think that would be last on his list, behind players like Hanley Ramirez and even Marco Scutaro, but at the end of the offseason decent 2B might be undervalued.

 

If they really think Pedroia can man SS then that opens a lot of possibilities for them moving forward. I don't think he would be ideal, but with the right 2B it could work out.

[jacksonianmarch]

2Bs are definitely easier to come by this day and age. Its kinda funny, a few yrs back, a good SS was a dime a dozen. Now, its reverted back to the way it used to be.

 

If I had to make a prediction, I think the sox still sign Scutaro. I doubt they make a deal for Uggla, seeing as it would take away prospects that are being groomed for either big league use or trade chippage. And since Uggla really is a 1b playing 2b. Same can be said for Phillips from a trade chip standpoint. I do think the sox kick every tire available though and might make a deal for one of the above guys if they decide that Mauer, Gonzalez, Johnson, Ramirez, and Halladay really wouldnt be worth the asking price

[Keeper]

I understand that SS has been an issue for the Sox for awhile now, but at best this seems like a short term solution, and not one I would readily endorse.

 

Pedroia has established himself as one of the premiere two-way second basemen in the game. The last time he played SS was in 2006. Three years is a large gap. And if he struggles at SS, I'll bet he tries to overcompensate at the plate.

 

The FO put themselves in this position, and now they want Pedroia to bail them out. If they had any sense, they would leave him alone.

[a700hitter]

If Pedroia moves to SS would the Sox attempt to plug the 2B hole by signing Figgins? He couldman 2B for one year and slide over to 3B afterward. I hate the idea of Adrian Beltre.

[BSN07]

Well if worst come to worst, Pedroia can play SS for 2 years then flip back to 2B when/if Iglesias is ready to take over. Or maybe someone becomes available over the next two years that isn't available now.

 

Brandon Phillips would be ideal. Good bat, great glove and makes enough to where it might lower the cost in prospects. Cincy was mentioned earlier this off season as wanting to cut payroll.

 

Maybe the Sox take on Phillips and Harang. Harang might be a decent 5th starter. He makes 12.5M next season and 12.75 with a 2M buy out in 2011. Phillips is under team control for 3 years. His price tag jumps after next season though from 6.75M to 11M in 2011. He has a 12M option for 2012 with a 1M buy out.

 

That's a decent amount of cash and could really relieve the Reds. So I doubt it would take a big package of prospects.

[Dipre]

Orlando Hudson.

 

Better D, reliable bat, would only cost money.

[BSN07]

Orlando Hudson.

 

Better D, reliable bat, would only cost money.

 

I could get on for O Dawg as well. The Sox might be able to get him on a 2 year deal, with maybe an option.

 

Although I am concerned about why the Dodgers were starting Belliard over him. Was he injured? Not hitting? Being a douche?

[TheMino007]

I too am weary of Beltre, there is no offensive upside over him compared to Lowell, but if Pedrioa is going to be moved to SS we are going to need more range on the left side of the infield, something that Beltre would provide. I'm not sure if I like the idea of the Sox filling one hole by plugging one guy in there leaving another whole to fill. All these rumors for Uggla and Philiips would make more sense if this transition by Pedrioa was made, but at what cost would we have to get these guys? I think Phillips could get acquired for not that bad of a price in terms of prospects if the Sox took a relatively large salary starter like Harang or Arroyo.

[riverside sluggers]

Haha watching mlb network's hot stove. A quote from Dustin Pedroia

 

"Tell Derek Jeter to enjoy his gold glove and silver slugger awards while he can."

[BSN07]

I too am weary of Beltre' date=' there is no offensive upside over him compared to Lowell, [/quote']

 

You can not be serious...

 

Ok... I guess we are just ignoring the effects of Safeco now or even better let's ignore the effect playing at Fenway could have for a RH power hitter. OMG what were we thinking... Idiots.... the whole lots of us....<_>

 

Do you seriously know anything outside of what you see on "Baseball Tonight"?

[Dojji]

Beltre didn't play all his games at Safeco, he strikes out an obscene amount, and he doesn't walk that much.

 

I, too, an wary of Beltre. He strikes me as exactly the kind of player who will win a contract based on a few hot streaks and then fail to live up to it for the rest of his time -- a sort of reverse JD Drew, if you will.

[Dipre]

I too am weary of Beltre' date=' there is no offensive upside over him compared to Lowell, but if Pedrioa is going to be moved to SS we are going to need more range on the left side of the infield, something that Beltre would provide. I'm not sure if I like the idea of the Sox filling one hole by plugging one guy in there leaving another whole to fill. All these rumors for Uggla and Philiips would make more sense if this transition by Pedrioa was made, but at what cost would we have to get these guys? I think Phillips could get acquired for not that bad of a price in terms of prospects if the Sox took a relatively large salary starter like Harang or Arroyo.[/quote']

 

Beltre didn't play all his games at Safeco, he strikes out an obscene amount, and he doesn't walk that much.

 

I, too, an wary of Beltre. He strikes me as exactly the kind of player who will win a contract based on a few hot streaks and then fail to live up to it for the rest of his time -- a sort of reverse JD Drew, if you will.

 

This is why you need to do actual research before saying something like that. Neither of you know what you're talking about.

 

A) So there is virtually no offensive upside from Beltre to Lowell? Last i checked, defense is an integral part of a championship team, Beltre can provide the same level of offense and GG defense.

 

B ) So he doesn't play all his games at Safeco? Did you take the time to check his splits before making that claim? And also, does Lowell walk AT ALL? No, but Beltre should hit for more power while, as stated above, provide better defense.

 

His splits from 2007-2009:

 

Home: .703 OPS.

 

Road: .813 OPS.

 

C) His highest strikeout number is 118, how does that constitute an obscene amount?

 

2007-2009 K totals:

 

104

 

90.

 

74.

 

I don't mean to be a dick, but seriously, check the stats.