Kevin Youkilis is selfish

[TheKilo]

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THANKS FOR REMOVING YOURSELF FROM THE PENNANT RACE FOR A WEEK FOR THIS, YOU JACKASS

[Soxfan1]

Mike Lowell steps up. Calling it right now...

[SCM33]

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THANKS FOR REMOVING YOURSELF FROM THE PENNANT RACE FOR A WEEK FOR THIS, YOU JACKASS

 

I was at the game, the second this happened....the dynamic of the game changed. I think this helps the team moving forward.

[yankees228]

I would be very upset if a Yankee did something similar.

[User Name]

Way I see it, he lit a fire under the team that if played right, could not go out for weeks. Good job in my books, Kevin...

[yankees228]

I guess what it comes down to is what you value more?

 

-The hypothetical scenario that Youkilis charging the mound has, in some way, inspired the Red Sox to play better baseball. If that's the case, then they need to question why they're not motivated enough just to make the playoffs.

 

-Not having one of your best offensive producers for, possibly, up to a week, in the heat of a pennant race.

[User Name]

-The hypothetical scenario that Youkilis charging the mound has' date=' in some way, inspired the Red Sox to play better baseball. If that's the case, then they need to question why they're not motivated enough just to make the playoffs.[/quote']

 

Don't watch hockey, do you?

 

I didn't mean to make the point that Youkilis doing this is going to get us into the playoffs, but it pushed us to win. Which can push to more wins. Which gets to be a nice little streak, and next thing you know, we're going to the playoffs.

[Soxfan1]

Everyone loves a good fight, but he could have crippled this team if we didn't have the depth that we have at the corners right now. This was probably a pent up rage sort of thing. Youk gets nailed by pitches all the time. Proctor/Joba anyone?

[ElMaestro]

IMHO, it was not smart. Sure, it can "fire up" the team, we will see, but being suspended for a week or so right now is not good. And we will see how much time will pass until he is suspended, because the yanks go to fenway in 9 days, so it could be possible he won't be in the lineup at least for the 1st game.

[cobra24]

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you really have to be kidding with this post... he just lit a fire under everyone's ass and i would be the first person to say he helped with the victory tonight and the rest in this series. it needed to be done. they threw at Vmart as well as Youk.

[SCM33]

I guess what it comes down to is what you value more?

 

-The hypothetical scenario that Youkilis charging the mound has, in some way, inspired the Red Sox to play better baseball. If that's the case, then they need to question why they're not motivated enough just to make the playoffs.

 

-Not having one of your best offensive producers for, possibly, up to a week, in the heat of a pennant race.

 

Or you could look at it like this:

 

They won a critical game the night before, they had a rook on the mound, down by three, they already threw at Vmart once. NYY at the time were winning a game vs TOR, Youk decides to take it upon himself to ignite a sleepy lethargic bunch, which he did. Now we are 1 up in the WC standings. He will sit a few games, but the buzz around the park, and the spark he ignited are not measured. They won a huge game with a Rook pitching.

[yankees228]

Don't watch hockey, do you?

 

I didn't mean to make the point that Youkilis doing this is going to get us into the playoffs, but it pushed us to win. Which can push to more wins. Which gets to be a nice little streak, and next thing you know, we're going to the playoffs.

 

Look, most of you guys clearly believe that what he did was one of the reasons they won tonight, and will help them down the road. I disagree, because I don't think any of that outweighs the potential loss of Youkilis.

 

This is clearly an argument that is going to go nowhere, mainly because a lot of it is conjecture. However, there is one thing that isn't conjecture. The Red Sox are a better team with Kevin Youkilis in the lineup then they are without Kevin Youkilis in the lineup.

 

EDIT: And lets not kid ourselves. Porcello being tossed and Tazawa settling down are really the reasons why the Red Sox won tonight. I don't see how Youkilis' actions effected any of that. For the record, I see that you guys are also talking about this having an impact down the road. I'm just simply commenting on tonight's events.

[MANNYHOF24]

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BOOO! I was at the game, it was awesome.

[CoachC.]

No one see's the similarities between this and when Tek gave A-rod a face full of glove in 2004? That was the turning point of the season then, and I really do think this could do the same, Lowell is a great replacement to have, and he has been absolutely raking lately.

[cobra24]

No one see's the similarities between this and when Tek gave A-rod a face full of glove in 2004? That was the turning point of the season then' date=' and I really do think this could do the same, Lowell is a great replacement to have, and he has been absolutely raking lately.[/quote']

 

aww, very good point. i totally forgot about that. maybe we have a 3rd championship coming?????

[Keeper]

No one see's the similarities between this and when Tek gave A-rod a face full of glove in 2004? That was the turning point of the season then' date=' and I really do think this could do the same, Lowell is a great replacement to have, and he has been absolutely raking lately.[/quote']

 

That is a good point. Hopefully, as others have said it will fire up the team. Brawls are part of the game. Kilo, didn't you already concede the pennant race anyway? Something about the Yankees having never blown a 6-game lead...

[v2freak]

Look, most of you guys clearly believe that what he did was one of the reasons they won tonight, and will help them down the road. I disagree, because I don't think any of that outweighs the potential loss of Youkilis.

 

This is clearly an argument that is going to go nowhere, mainly because a lot of it is conjecture. However, there is one thing that isn't conjecture. The Red Sox are a better team with Kevin Youkilis in the lineup then they are without Kevin Youkilis in the lineup.

 

EDIT: And lets not kid ourselves. Porcello being tossed and Tazawa settling down are really the reasons why the Red Sox won tonight. I don't see how Youkilis' actions effected any of that. For the record, I see that you guys are also talking about this having an impact down the road. I'm just simply commenting on tonight's events.

 

Put two and two together. One obvious result of Youkilis' actions was Porcello being tossed - a "real reason" the Sox won. If Youk hadn't charged the mound, Porcello probably would have stayed in the game.

[Looch Ness Monster]

Such ******** that people are complaining about this. Be a little less liberal won't you? It was exciting and sent a jolt of energy through the entire team. He'll miss 5 or 6 games, in which we'll have Mike Lowell and Casey Kotchman in to fill the void. Youk's one of our best hitters but if Bay gets going (as he has been as of late) and the rest of the lineup gets going we should be fine. We don't need to depend on one hitter.

 

I agree with whoever compared this to the Tek thing. It's one win now and likely a 5 or 6 game suspension but it could lead to a little winning streak. We have Beckett going tomorrow against their #5 starter, a 3-game winning streak and possibly a sweep could go a long way down the road.

 

Plus, the people who say "the suspension would coincide with the Yankee series"..he could just appeal it and then begin serving it after that series is over..

[BoSox21]

No one see's the similarities between this and when Tek gave A-rod a face full of glove in 2004? That was the turning point of the season then' date=' and I really do think this could do the same, Lowell is a great replacement to have, and he has been absolutely raking lately.[/quote']

 

Yea, the Nomar trade had nothing to do with it...

[Dipre]

Youkilis has been the subject of almost every retaliatory hitting the Red Sox have received this season.

 

He is a human being.

 

Get pushed enough and eventually you will push back.

 

Anyone complaining because he lost it after getting hit in back to back days is a moron.

 

People need to understand ballplayers are not automatons.

[BSN07]

I think what Youk did was great. Means Lowell gets a couple extra starts, big deal. this lit a fire in this team. It is exactly what this team needed.

[Dipre]

I think what Youk did was great. Means Lowell gets a couple extra starts' date=' big deal. this lit a fire in this team. It is exactly what this team needed.[/quote']

 

Seeing it that way is plain wrong.

 

You need to look at the human aspect of it, and not just the "OMGTHILIGHTSAFIREONTHESOXAWSUM" side of things.

[VA Sox Fan]

Youkilis has been the subject of almost every retaliatory hitting the Red Sox have received this season.

 

He is a human being.

 

Get pushed enough and eventually you will push back.

 

Anyone complaining because he lost it after getting hit in back to back days is a moron.

 

People need to understand ballplayers are not automatons.

 

 

Agree.

 

Youk had to do it.

 

Way for Mike Lowell to step up HUGE last night.

[TigersFan]

Congrats on moving past the Yankees as my most hated team in baseball.

 

Anyone notice Youkilis didn't charge the mound when Edwin Jackson hit him the day prior? He'd rather go after a rookie, who may or may not have intentionally thrown at him.

 

Congrats to your strategy, if that's what you have to do to win, relying on your opposing pitcher getting tossed which was a total BS call. Were there any warnings from the Umpire? No.

 

Again, congrats, it's not easy to surpass my hatred for the yankees. I hope Galarraga or whoever goes tonight for Detroit hits the first three batters in the head.

 

f*** Boston!!

[BSN07]

Seeing it that way is plain wrong.

 

You need to look at the human aspect of it, and not just the "OMGTHILIGHTSAFIREONTHESOXAWSUM" side of things.

 

Just because I didn't mention the human aspect doesn't mean I don't get or am ignoring it. I totally get that side of it. Sometimes enough is enough. And sometimes you have to do something. I totally agree with you there. I just didn't feel like elaborating on it at in my post is all.

[Paradisecity]

I dont think Porcello gets tossed without Youk charging.

 

With that assumption, Youk essentially won us that game. Not because he "fired up the team", but because he replaced a very good pitcher with a dogshit one (not to mention his sub hitting 2 dingers).

 

So to me, charging was worth it

[BoSox21]

Anyone notice Youkilis didn't charge the mound when Edwin Jackson hit him the day prior?

 

No, I didn't actually. Thank God I have your keen eye around for that...

 

He'd rather go after a rookie' date=' who may or may not have intentionally thrown at him.[/quote']

 

Well no, he'd rather not get plunked two games in a row. And if you have any doubt that Porcello plunking him was unintentional, I have some real estate I'd like to sell you.

[Dojji]

Youkilis has been the subject of almost every retaliatory hitting the Red Sox have received this season.

 

He is a human being.

 

Get pushed enough and eventually you will push back.

 

Anyone complaining because he lost it after getting hit in back to back days is a moron.

 

People need to understand ballplayers are not automatons.

 

This. Well said Dipre.

[italstallianion]

No one see's the similarities between this and when Tek gave A-rod a face full of glove in 2004? That was the turning point of the season then' date=' and I really do think this could do the same, Lowell is a great replacement to have, and he has been absolutely raking lately.[/quote']

 

 

Jesus Christ, thank you. I thought I was the only one who was thinking this. The only qualm I have is that I wish it were a worse player who charged the mound. For example, if Nick Green or Kottaras (his equivalent on the 25 man roster) charged the mound and took themselves out I think it would have given us the same energy without losing the key player. But it should still charge the Sox like it did in 2004. That moment many claim changed the Sox season for the better.

 

As to the person who asked why can't players always play charged up in a pennant race. Well, a 162 game season can get kind of mundane and boring, even in a pennant race. Something like that is a spark and (can) really put a fire under their a****. Let's hope so.

 

Now let's just hope that Beckett doesn't get involved...

[CoachC.]

Yea' date=' the Nomar trade had nothing to do with it... [/quote']

 

The trade changed the defensive game and overall culture of the team. Totally different story. Doesn't light a fire up the ass the same way that a brawl does.