Mets turn down Halladay deal!

[Dipre]

It was a smile not a laughing emoticon. Report back with your findings. I'm interested. My Mets sources have never said that there has been a problem' date=' and they are the guys that run the Meet and Greets.[/quote']

 

If you want someone from the org. i could ask a scout who works for the Mets for his opinion on the matter.

 

I'll even ask him to let me use his name for the doubters.

[Teddyballgame10]

In fact, if you remind me of this conversation again in December, i'll post a picture of me with him and shut you the f*** up.

 

Easy dude.

 

What about Lowell mentioning in his book the cliques and tension between Hispanic and white players?

[Dipre]

Easy dude.

 

What about Lowell mentioning in his book the cliques and tension between Hispanic and white players?

 

Most players now are bilingual.

 

This is not the 1990s.

 

And for the record, every Puerto Rican player in the ML is fully bilingual, and the Mets are flooded with them, so the story doesn't add up.

[Teddyballgame10]

W.e. this is not going anywhere, I respect your opinion I think you are wrong though.

[Dipre]

W.e. this is not going anywhere' date=' I respect your opinion I think you are wrong though.[/quote']

 

My investigation shall shed light on the subject.

 

After all, i'm THAT bored.

[BSN07]

Just adding my .02 here.

 

I'm going to try and find it, but I read an article a couple years back. It was about a fairly high profiled player that was from the Dominican. It stated that Minaya really pushed the Hispanic/Latin angle while trying to lure the player to the Mets. So much though, that it actually put the player off on the Mets. It might have been Arod when he opted out in 07.

 

 

I don't know if he is racists of whatever. He does tend to lean towards the Latin line a bit. But a good majority of the top players are Latin, so there isn't anything conclusive there. In the end like it was said, if he does run his team like this, it's only his organization that suffers.

[a700hitter]

My investigation shall shed light on the subject.

 

After all, i'm THAT bored.

Members of the Mets organization are unlikely to speak about this in a public way. I have a fair bit of contact with the Mets through my nephew and I have never heard a word about this. The stories in the press were based on anonymous sources I think. Dipre, if you are really tight with someone from the organization, you might get some honest feedbackn but I doubt the person would want you to use his name. If the accusations are true, it would be a very sensitive issue for the Mets, and anyone going on public record about it would risk losing his job.

[Mr Crunchy]

Minaya is either the worst GM in the game or the unluckiest, I'll leave that open to debate due to the injured ballplayers hes made multi millionaires.

Theyre built very much like the Yankees. they have the 2001 allstar team playing for them in 2009.Theyve been competetive but have collapsed in the last 2 summers after bending over against the Cardinals in the 06 pennant...Collapses happen, we know that better than anyone but for chrissakes they werent chasing the 27 Yankees...

Theyre paying too many people too much money do nothing and although i like their idea of getting their much needed bullpen help by signing Putz and Krod their offense has just quit on them this year.

I hate the Mets yet I feel bad for them because theyre so pathetic...

Watching them play is like taking in a Babe Ruth league game, they dont play fundamental baseball, they dont field well at all,they never seem to get a bit hit when it matters and if they have a shot to f*** a game up it seems they always get it done...

Good thing Washington is in their league.

In fairness to Minaya they were close but we know the seasons arent decided on paper in January...Reyes Delgado and Wright were all hurt by June and the rest of the team isnt capable of putting up the needed offense to keep them competetive..They shouldnt bother with Halliday unless he can hit .285 with some power.

[Dipre]

Members of the Mets organization are unlikely to speak about this in a public way. I have a fair bit of contact with the Mets through my nephew and I have never heard a word about this. The stories in the press were based on anonymous sources I think. Dipre' date=' if you are really tight with someone from the organization, you might get some honest feedbackn but I doubt the person would want you to use his name. If the accusations are true, it would be a very sensitive issue for the Mets, and anyone going on public record about it would risk losing his job.[/quote']

 

This is very true, however, i'll lose nothing by asking.

[a700hitter]

This is very true' date=' however, i'll lose nothing by asking.[/quote']I'm interested in what you find out. It's probably less of an issue now, because most of the Hispanic players are on the DL.

[Dipre]

I'm interested in what you find out. It's probably less of an issue now' date=' because most of the Hispanic players are on the DL. [/quote']

 

http://static.open.salon.com/files/thatsracistgm751224856460.gif

 

[Dojji]

Its your word when you tell someone over the internet you spoke to the best 3B pretending to be an SS in baseball.

 

Fixed

[yankeessuck013]

Wilpon's got plenty of money in his own personal fortune. If he really wants to add Halladay and make a run money wouldn't stop him. If they weren't so decimated by injuries as it is the addition of Halladay could really push them over the top. Unfortunately if they added him now' date=' it wouldn't make much of a difference.[/quote']

 

 

Not as much as you might think, he was hit hard if not the hardest by the Maydoff scandal and the rumor is the Mets are going to have to take a loan from MLB to pay their draft class this year. Adding a pitcher who you will have to give at least an 18 mil per extension to is not something from my understanding is something the Mets can do

 

The company that owns the Mets was one of a handful of ultra-wealthy investors prosecutors say were duped by Wall Street wheeler-dealer Bernard Madoff.

 

Sterling Equities, which owns the Mets, the Brooklyn Cyclones and major real estate developments in New York and Florida, confirmed it had invested money with Madoff.

 

CNBC is reporting that Mets owner Fred Wilpon and partner Saul Katz, though their investment entity Sterling Stamos, could have lost as much as $300 million.[/b]

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/12/2008-12-12_mets_owner_fred_wilpon_may_have_been_big.html#ixzz0LszIUtAL

[a700hitter]

Not as much as you might think' date=' he was hit hard if not the hardest by the Maydoff scandal and the rumor is the Mets are going to have to take a loan from MLB to pay their draft class this year. Adding a pitcher who you will have to give at least an 18 mil per extension to is not something from my understanding is something the Mets can do[/quote']I have heard similar rumors. What's your source for the information?

[BSN07]

Not as much as you might think, he was hit hard if not the hardest by the Maydoff scandal and the rumor is the Mets are going to have to take a loan from MLB to pay their draft class this year. Adding a pitcher who you will have to give at least an 18 mil per extension to is not something from my understanding is something the Mets can do

 

 

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/12/2008-12-12_mets_owner_fred_wilpon_may_have_been_big.html#ixzz0LszIUtAL

 

 

The Mets going broke helps me with my hypothetical off season scenario I'm working on:D There gonna need to retool on the go, or maybe dump salary if it get's worse.

[Dojji]

What do they have that we'd want? The only players on that team that are worth salvaging are the guys they won't get rid of. The only real exception are the overpaid guys like Santana or K-Rod

[BSN07]

What do they have that we'd want? The only players on that team that are worth salvaging are the guys they won't get rid of. The only real exception are the overpaid guys like Santana or K-Rod

 

I posted my thoughts on a Red Sox- Mets trade in the Gammons thread. But I don't think it will happen "in season". It's more of an off season thing.

 

Wright for Dice-K/Bowden+ 1 position player prospect was my initial thought. The details/reasoning are in the other post.

 

Mets get a Good SP with some up side/ concerns. And a top of the rotation type SP in Bowden, which they currently don't have anything close to him. Maybe add Anderson. Delgado is a FA after this season.

[yankeessuck013]

I have heard similar rumors. What's your source for the information?

 

I heard Mike Francesa say something along those lines on WFAN on Monday. Sorry, no link.

[Keeper]

Allegations of racism are pretty bunk sometimes. For instance, Ozzie Guillen was just sent a ton of emails accusing him of being racist for sending Brian Anderson down to Triple-A. Not sure I follow the logic on that one...

[BSN07]

Allegations of racism are pretty bunk sometimes. For instance' date=' Ozzie Guillen was just sent a ton of emails accusing him of being racist for sending Brian Anderson down to Triple-A. Not sure I follow the logic on that one...[/quote']

 

 

Ozzie sent a white guy down. Got to be racist. Can't be that Anderson isn't a good enough player lol

[Dipre]

Brian Anderson sucks /end discussion

[NJRedSoxFan]

Omar Minaya needs to get his head examined.

 

The Wilpons needs theres examined too.

[Mr Crunchy]

Is it shocking to see Miami LA and NY flood their rosters with latins while playing in the biggest latin markets in Baseball?...Ya,Minaya has gone balls out for the biggest Latin names in the market and hasnt gotten the end results but is it his fault that the team laid down like dying dogs the last 2 years?

He fired Willie Randolph but Jerry Manuel ran into the same year end malaise last year.

Theyre loaded with ****s failures and gaggers and they are latins whites and blacks.

The Wilpons gave Minaya the blank check and the Mets have been in the hunt pretty much 4 years running with this year being the exception..

This is what GM's are supposed to do.They get the parts to the floor, the manager assembles the parts into a machine and the machine functions accordingly.

Laying the Mets failures on Minaya's obvious love of Latins isnt entirely fair and they arent going anywhere even if they do pick up Halliday. When the ancient Gary Sheffield,a waiver wire pick up 2 months ago, leads your team in HR's then you got no power at all..What happened to White David Wright,5hrs this year?Puerto Rican Carlo Beltran with 8,Luis Castillo is hitting .290 but slugging .330 which is nearly impossible, they come in all shapes colors and sizes and they all are under achieving...Minaya put together good talent but this talent is now aging underachieving and if theres disharmony in their clubhouse Id bet it has more to do with good players playing like s*** and being frustrated than racial discord....Winning solves all this s***.

when you're winning you dont notice skin color or language,all you see are teamates that you want to fight and die for and vice versa...Jason Veritek would be leading them in Hr's if he played in Queens, this is the problem in NY, not language, not skin color or Minaya's obvious taste for Latin kids.

Theyre underachieving, they aint hitting and they now have to look at each other loss after pathetic loss with internal frustration and rage....This makes sense in the business world.

the Mets are looking to pick up a share of the Manhatten market and what better way to do this than by signing Latins cause they got 4-5million of them between the GW bridge and Westchester County.

The problem they do have is these guys have choked away 2 huge division leads and a pennant in the last 3 years and this year theyre in 4th in a league that isnt that good.

[Mr Crunchy]

This was on the Mets team page and I found it appropiate.

The 2009 Mets: Proving that sometimes the most relevant Beckett in baseball is Samuel, not Josh.