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He was signed as a backup player, and has gotten exposed because of all the playing time.

 

During spring training they had no set LF. It was either him or Murphy. They had a 50-50 shot at starting, he was not a bench player.

 

Now you're just being a tool, and i really don't mean to insult, but really.

 

Cora is a backup player, so is Tatis?

 

But i didn't hear you mention Beltran, Delgado, Santana, and Reyes in this post.

 

Why?

 

Cora still sucks. They are losing because they have zero depth. They signed out worst player on the team and we went out and got a capical back up, who happens to be white.

 

About Wright. . .its a know fact that cliques from between ethnic groups in the clubhouse. Wright is there best player and he sits in the dugout by himself and looks miserable. How do you think it feels when 90% of your team mates are talking a different language in the club house. I read Mike Lowells book and he said one of his best skills is being bi-lingual. He would help bring the english and spanish speaking players together when he was with Florida. There was an article in Newsday a few months back about Wright and being one of the few white players on the team.

 

The Mets over paid for Beltran. Delgado has been alright. Any idiot could have gotten K-rod. He had nothing to do with Reyes. I'll give you Santana.

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There was a piece on this awhile ago where the Mets 25 man was well above the average in terms of hispanic players. You know what' date=' though, who cares. Its pretty obvious that the game crosses color and ethnicity lines. Trying to all black a team or all white, or all hispanic a team is doing your team a detriment. And the Mets are running into it. Its all about grabbing talent regardless of their background.[/quote']

 

Talk about a conflicting statement......

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I claimed victory because anything Rosenthal writes is ********' date=' you simply didn't pick up the joke, lol.[/quote']There is a double standard at work too. Rosenthal wrote his baseless accusations about a white FO. I thought his accusation was outrageous and reprehensible, but yet no one in the press called him out on his BS. I think that there would have been more of an outcry if Rosenthal had made such an accusation against a Hispanic GM.
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During spring training they had no set LF. It was either him or Murphy. They had a 50-50 shot at starting, he was not a bench player.

 

 

 

Cora still sucks. They are losing because they have zero depth. They signed out worst player on the team and we went out and got a capical back up, who happens to be white.

 

About Wright. . .its a know fact that cliques from between ethnic groups in the clubhouse. Wright is there best player and he sits in the dugout by himself and looks miserable. How do you think it feels when 90% of your team mates are talking a different language in the club house. I read Mike Lowells book and he said one of his best skills is being bi-lingual. He would help bring the english and spanish speaking players together when he was with Florida. There was an article in Newsday a few months back about Wright and being one of the few white players on the team.

 

The Mets over paid for Beltran. Delgado has been alright. Any idiot could have gotten K-rod. He had nothing to do with Reyes. I'll give you Santana.

 

90% of the Mets is hispanic?

 

Ok, the argument ends here.

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There is a double standard at work too. Rosenthal wrote his baseless accusations about a white FO. I thought his accusation was outrageous and reprehensible' date=' but yet no one in the press called him out on his BS. I think that there would have been more of an outcry if Rosenthal had made such an accusation against a Hispanic GM.[/quote']

 

Because it sells.

 

Hispanic and gay are the new african american, you know.

 

It makes headlines, and the people eat it up.

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Do you watch the Mets? Feliciano blows. Perez' date=' great signing. Castillo and Cora suck. Tatis is a joke. There whole bulllpen from last year. I know Wright, their best player, feels alienated on that club to.[/quote']

 

How insightful! You must be a fly on the wall in the locker room!

 

Also, I feel compelled to defend Feliciano, as I picked him for my Anti-Fantasy Team. Do you know how to correctly interpret statistics? Because he really does not suck. If he sucks, so does Manny Delcarmen. Their career lines are almost identical.

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90% of the Mets is hispanic?

 

Ok, the argument ends here.

There have been articles that the white players like Wright feel put upon because they have to do too many public relations meet and greets because of the language issue.
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There have been articles that the white players like Wright feel put upon because they have to do too many public relations meet and greets because of the language issue.

 

Dude.

 

Beltran, Delgado, Beltran, Tatis and Feliciano are all FULLY BILINGUAL, and these are only the players i'm fully aware speak english.

 

There may be others.

 

The language thing is really a non-issue, at least with the Mets.

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Its not 90% but it is up there its over 60 which is a s*** load.

 

You do realize how ridiculous that argument is?

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How insightful! You must be a fly on the wall in the locker room!

 

Also, I feel compelled to defend Feliciano, as I picked him for my Anti-Fantasy Team. Do you know how to correctly interpret statistics? Because he really does not suck. If he sucks, so does Manny Delcarmen. Their career lines are almost identical.

 

Stats dont show everything. Feliciano is almost like A-rod, he'll come in and do fine when they are getting crushed or visa verse. How many Met games have you watched? I've probably seen around 90% in the past 3 years and every time Feliciano comes in during a close game the end result is never good. You are one of the better posters I think you would know that stats can be misleading.

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Dude.

 

Beltran, Delgado, Beltran, Tatis and Feliciano are all FULLY BILINGUAL, and these are only the players i'm fully aware speak english.

 

There may be others.

 

The language thing is really a non-issue, at least with the Mets.

I didn't write the articles. I just read them. According to the articles and reports on Sports Talk Radio, there is apparently friction with regard to the language issue.

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Dude.

 

Beltran, Delgado, Beltran, Tatis and Feliciano are all FULLY BILINGUAL, and these are only the players i'm fully aware speak english.

 

There may be others.

 

The language thing is really a non-issue, at least with the Mets.

 

They have two Beltrans?;) Have you heard them speak? Their english sucks.

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I didn't write the articles. I just read them. According to the articles and reports on Sports Talk Radio' date=' there is apparently friction with regard to the language issue.[/quote']

 

Thank you, Dipre you dont hear or see NY media. There is friction, its been said!

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I didn't write the articles. I just read them. According to the articles and reports on Sports Talk Radio' date=' there is apparently friction with regard to the language issue.[/quote']

 

Which has been largely overblown by the media.

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Thank you' date=' Dipre you dont hear or see NY media. There is friction, its been said![/quote']

 

De facto racism right here.

 

Just because i'm latin doesn't mean i don't read the New York media.<_>

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Which has been largely overblown by the media.
neither of us would know, because we are not in the clubhouse. Teddyballgame is not off base raising these issues, because they have been put out there by the NY press.
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De facto racism right here.

 

Just because i'm latin doesn't mean i don't read the New York media.<_>The same could have been said if you were Irish and living in Boston.

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De facto racism right here.

 

Just because i'm latin doesn't mean i don't read the New York media.<_>

 

OK if you read them fine but you have clearly missed some articals. All I'm saying is I think Minaya is biased and loves sighing hispanic players and it really hurts the team.

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neither of us would know' date=' because we are not in the clubhouse. Teddyballgame is not off base raising these issues, because they have been put out there by the NY press.[/quote']

 

Because it's a baseless issue unless you have some sort of proof.

 

This is what i'm gonna do.

 

I'm gonna talk to a buddy of mine who's good friends with Hanley Ramirez, and i'm gonna have him ask Hanley if language is really an issue in some ML (specially the Mets') clubhouse.

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Because it's a baseless issue unless you have some sort of proof.

 

This is what i'm gonna do.

 

I'm gonna talk to a buddy of mine who's good friends with Hanley Ramirez, and i'm gonna have him ask Hanley if language is really an issue in some ML (specially the Mets') clubhouse.

I didn't make the accusation, so why would I provide any proof? It is a fact that the accusations have been made in the press. Are they valid? I wouldn't know, and I know people that work for the Mets. Nevertheless, reputable members of the press have reported these things, so it's not crazy for a poster to refer to them and maybe even take them at face value.
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I didn't make the accusation' date=' so why would I provide any proof? It is a fact that the accusations have been made in the press. Are they valid? I wouldn't know, and I know people that work for the Mets. Nevertheless, reputable members of the press have reported these things, so it's not crazy for a poster to refer to them and maybe even take them at face value.[/quote']

 

Lambs of the press.

 

I shall carry out my own investigation on the matter.

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So your word vs the NY press? That is one hell of a toss up

 

Lol "my word".

 

It's not "my word"

 

It's common f***ing sense.

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I hope you can get to the bottom of it. :D

 

Hey, you can laugh.

 

But i know some people, and you'd be surprised at what a couple phone calls can dig up.

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Hey, you can laugh.

 

But i know some people, and you'd be surprised at what a couple phone calls can dig up.

It was a smile not a laughing emoticon. Report back with your findings. I'm interested. My Mets sources have never said that there has been a problem, and they are the guys that run the Meet and Greets.
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Its your word when you tell someone over the internet you spoke to the best SS in baseball.

 

That, i can prove.

 

Hanley used to live 3 houses from where i live before he signed.

 

He comes here every December in his awesome white Bentley or H2 and throws legendary parties every year.

 

In fact, if you remind me of this conversation again in December, i'll post a picture of me with him and shut you the f*** up.

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