A thought about our depth

[Dojji]

If you put the following roster of the into the major leagues what would its record wind up being?

 

C: Brown

1B: Bailey

2B: Khoury

SS: Diaz

3B Chavez

LF: Carter

CF: Van Every

RF: Daeges

DH: MacAnulty/Madera

 

Backup C: Maldonado

Backup 1B: Natale

Backup OF: Danielson

Backup IF: Green

Backup 1B-C: Madera/Backup 1B-LF MacAnulty

 

Rotation:

 

Smoltz

Buchholz

Bowden

Johnson

Zink

 

CL: Bard

SU: James

MR: Jones

MR: Vaquedano

LOOGY: Traber

LR: Hansack

 

 

The strength of that team though would clearly be in the rotation. And that's certainly not a bad place to have a strength. With a top 3 of Smoltz, Buchholz and Bowden I think a team like that could manage to not totally suck at the big league level.

 

Obviously the big issues are a lack of production from our 3 defensive infield positions and an extreme lack of bullpen depth but I think with that rotation, a major league team with this roster could win maybe 65 games. The lineup has some pop and depth, with only one obvious black hole (Diaz) but it also has 2 other pretty vulnerable hitters who could become black holes pretty quickly at the big league level (Chavez, Khoury)

 

 

The reason this is interesting to me is that each of these players (with the obvious exception of bench guys and the guys lower down in the bullpen) are what I would consider to be the first callup from the minors at their position. In the event of a real injury disaster like we had in 2006 we could be seeing multiple of these guys in our lineup and identifying where that speculative team would place in the standings and why gives us a bit of a glimpse at where the organization really need to improve its own depth.

[BoSox21]

Littleton could be in that pen

[italstallianion]

I doubt that Traber would even make that team. I'd rather have Littleton pitch left handed than to have Traber...

[Keeper]

65 wins? They'd be lucky if they got 50.

[BoSox21]

Yea, its a nice roster in terms of showcasing our depth, but that team doesn't belong anywhere near a major league game.

 

We play a similar game like that in Canada everytime the winter olympics come around. We take a look at the men's hockey roster and then make a second roster out of guys who were left off and both teams could conceivably medal.

[Youk Of The Nation]

I think that team would crash and burn in the Major Leagues. And when I say crash and burn, I don't mean that figuratively. I mean that team would literally fall down in the middle of Fenway park and spontaneously combust.

[diony]

65 wins, in AAA, yeah.

[BoSox21]

They might be competitive if Oil Can was signed

[Dojji]

65 wins? They'd be lucky if they got 50.

 

65 wins is 97 losses and aklmost guaranteed 5th place in any division people, it's not like I'm ticketing them for the Series Sheesh.

 

Personally I think this squad is better on paper than the 2007 Kansas City Royals. But that's me.

[a700hitter]

In the group you have only 3 guys who could hold down a major league job for an entire season: Smoltz, Bailey and Carter and Smoltz will only pitch half the season if we are lucky. Bucholz was bust last season and should have been sent down much earlier. Bard has the stuff to stick, but if his command goes, he is a AA pitcher. Van Every and MacNulty would be very marginal major leaguers. That's a total of 7 players on a roster of 25. That's pretty thin.

[Keeper]

Van Every and MacNulty would be very marginal major leaguers.

 

MacNulty should play for Baltimore.

[Cocos Disciples]

Personally I think this squad is better on paper than the 2007 Kansas City Royals. But that's me.

 

Really?

[CrespoBlows]

Dojji has a fetish for baseball players that can't legally drink. I mean, how the f*** do you get kicked off soxprospects for being too optimistic?

[CrespoBlows]

If you put the following roster of the into the major leagues what would its record wind up being?

 

C: Brown

1B: Bailey

2B: Khoury

SS: Diaz

3B Chavez

LF: Carter

CF: Van Every

RF: Daeges

DH: MacAnulty/Madera

 

Backup C: Maldonado

Backup 1B: Natale

Backup OF: Danielson

Backup IF: Green

Backup 1B-C: Madera/Backup 1B-LF MacAnulty

 

Rotation:

 

Smoltz

Buchholz

Bowden

Johnson

Zink

 

CL: Bard

SU: James

MR: Jones

MR: Vaquedano

LOOGY: Traber

LR: Hansack

 

 

The strength of that team though would clearly be in the rotation. And that's certainly not a bad place to have a strength. With a top 3 of Smoltz, Buchholz and Bowden I think a team like that could manage to not totally suck at the big league level.

 

Obviously the big issues are a lack of production from our 3 defensive infield positions and an extreme lack of bullpen depth but I think with that rotation, a major league team with this roster could win maybe 65 games. The lineup has some pop and depth, with only one obvious black hole (Diaz) but it also has 2 other pretty vulnerable hitters who could become black holes pretty quickly at the big league level (Chavez, Khoury)

 

 

The reason this is interesting to me is that each of these players (with the obvious exception of bench guys and the guys lower down in the bullpen) are what I would consider to be the first callup from the minors at their position. In the event of a real injury disaster like we had in 2006 we could be seeing multiple of these guys in our lineup and identifying where that speculative team would place in the standings and why gives us a bit of a glimpse at where the organization really need to improve its own depth.

 

This team would win 40 games. The offense is absolutely horrendous, and would probably shatter MLB records for futility in hitting. The 2007 Royals, as anemic as their offense was, still had above average pitching. This team's pitching staff would get bombed. You better hope that Smoltz, Bowden, and Buchholz can finish games they start.

 

I would guess that this team would score no more than 500 runs, and would allow 1000. The 2003 Detroit Tigers are a recent example of failure. This team is much worse than Detroit, assuming full health.

[Cocos Disciples]

MacNulty should play for Baltimore.

 

That took me some time to get.

[BoSox21]

lol, this is like that argument a couple of years ago whether USC could beat the Oakland Raiders

[ORS]

This team would win 40 games. The offense is absolutely horrendous, and would probably shatter MLB records for futility in hitting. The 2007 Royals, as anemic as their offense was, still had above average pitching. This team's pitching staff would get bombed. You better hope that Smoltz, Bowden, and Buchholz can finish games they start.

 

I would guess that this team would score no more than 500 runs, and would allow 1000. The 2003 Detroit Tigers are a recent example of failure. This team is much worse than Detroit, assuming full health.

They'd be bad, but this is a bit much.

 

Replacement level is about 75% of league average. With the AL average somewhere around 780 runs over the last few years, a replacement level team, all replacement level players mind you, scores 535 and gives up 1035 for a Pythag of 40 wins. While there aren't a lot, some of those players are certainly above replacement level. I think 60-ish would be doable, but that's good enough for worst in the league in just about any year.

[CrespoBlows]

The 2003 Detroit Tigers scored 591 runs, allowed 928 runs, to have a Pythag of 49 wins.

 

I think anything north of 50 wins is too optimistic. That offense is still very pathetic. A sub .300 OBP would be a very possible goal for this bunch.