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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ortizsteroids&prov=st&type=lgns

It appears Boston Red Sox slugger David Ortiz is not sure if he has

taken steroids.

 

Ortiz told the Boston Herald that he could not say definitively if he had ever used performance-enhancing drugs in the past. The burly designated hitter also said that if he did, it happened when he was much younger.

 

“I tell you, I don’t know too much about steroids, but I started listening about steroids when they started to bring that (expletive) up,” Ortiz told the paper. “I started realizing and getting to know a little bit about it. You’ve got to be careful.

 

“I used to buy a protein shake in my country. I don’t do that anymore because they don’t have the approval for that here, so I know that, so I’m off buying things at the GNC back in the Dominican (Republic). But it can happen anytime, it can happen. I don’t know. I don’t know if I drank something in my youth, not knowing it.”

 

 

However, Ortiz, who hit a club-record 54 home runs last season, made light of the situation, joking that he should try steroids just to see what all the fuss is about.

 

“I should use steroids just to see what’s going on,” Ortiz joked to the Herald. “Nah. I have a good family. I want to see my kids learn and develop. I think I’m having an OK career. So, I take a lot of Advils, but I think I’m going to stop taking them. They say it (expletive) your liver.”

 

Ortiz spent six non-descript seasons in Minnesota before signing with the Red Sox before the 2003 season. He has quickly become a Boston icon and one of the most popular players in baseball.

 

In 2004, Ortiz anchored a Red Sox squad which won the franchise’s first World Series in 86 years - highlighted by a shocking comeback against the rival New York Yankees in the American League Championship Series.

 

The Red Sox became the first team in baseball history to come back from a three-games-to-none deficit to win a playoff series.

 

 

Allow me to translate - he juiced.

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However, Ortiz, who hit a club-record 54 home runs last season, made light of the situation, joking that he should try steroids just to see what all the fuss is about.

 

That should've given it away.

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Guilty. I can't wait to see how some of the sox fans who have relentlessly bashed the yankee orgnaization react to this. The way I look at it is that this is just another indication of just how rampant it was. Everyone was doing it.

 

But with that being said I hope this marks the end of all the talk about how we should be ashamed that our championship teams were comprised of Performance Enhanced players, because if not for Papi and his steroids there is no 2004 championship in Boston.

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Guilty. I can't wait to see how some of the sox fans who have relentlessly bashed the yankee orgnaization react to this. The way I look at it is that this is just another indication of just how rampant it was. Everyone was doing it.

 

But with that being said I hope this marks the end of all the talk about how we should be ashamed that our championship teams were comprised of Performance Enhanced players, because if not for Papi and his steroids there is no 2004 championship in Boston.

 

Do you have any actual proof? Is his name in the Mitchell Report? Was his name leaked in any survey testing results? Have any personal trainers said they have syringes with Papi DNA on it? Have any former teammates said they saw him do anything? Or are you just going by his comments that there could have been stuff in the protein shakes he drank back when he was in the DR just starting to get hair on his balls?

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Do you have any actual proof? Is his name in the Mitchell Report? Was his name leaked in any survey testing results? Have any personal trainers said they have syringes with Papi DNA on it? Have any former teammates said they saw him do anything? Or are you just going by his comments that there could have been stuff in the protein shakes he drank back when he was in the DR just starting to get hair on his balls?

And you believe every word he says?

 

Lets look at things from the flipside. If we take A-Rod or Clemens or even Pettitte at his word we're being stupid and nieve. You really think a f***ing protein shake could have that effect of Ortiz? Dude juiced, he knows it, we know it, you know it. You can just tell by reading his quotes, just like you could just tell the other day that A-Rod was lying. Hop off his dick buddy and face reality/

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26 - I have my doubts as to whether or not Ortiz used steroids or any other PEDs or not - but to automatically assume he did without a shred of evidence is intellectually dishonest and contributes nothing to the discussion.

 

Do I think it's possible he used? Yes, I do. But until I have some tangible evidence (like the ARod and Pettitte "admissions"), I will not conclusively say he did them one way or another.

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And you believe every word he says?

 

Until it's been proven otherwise. The difference between Ortiz and Clemens/Pettitte/A-Rod should be obvious to you....

 

Why not believe Posada took PEDs in 2007? Dude hit .338 and had never had a .300 before or after that.

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Old story being brought up by a bitter Yankee fan. A cheater and a fraud denies all culpability until presented with incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, and even then many cheaters and frauds will still maintain their innocence, e.g. Roger Clemens, O.J. Simpson. I don't think that a roid cheater would discuss this topic so casually. This story was the result of an attention seeking writer manipulating an informal conversation into innuendo.
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And you believe every word he says?

 

Lets look at things from the flipside. If we take A-Rod or Clemens or even Pettitte at his word we're being stupid and naive. You really think a f***ing protein shake could have that effect of Ortiz? Dude juiced, he knows it, we know it, you know it. You can just tell by reading his quotes, just like you could just tell the other day that A-Rod was lying. Hop off his dick buddy and face reality/

 

The difference is arod, clemens, and even pettitte have been proven to be liars...so we are skeptical when Pettitte says 'i only did it once, or twice' (i forget which once he landed on) and arod says i only did it from 01-03. History tells us that they have been dishonest when it comes to their history with PED's, so we have a right to be skeptical.

 

If Ortiz is proven to be guilty of using PED's then he will be hammered here as well. Do I think it's possible he used, yes...but I will reserve judgment until he has been proven to have used. Bringing up an old article, where he talks about things he did in his youth and comparing it to the current situation is just foolishness.

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Guilty. I can't wait to see how some of the sox fans who have relentlessly bashed the yankee orgnaization react to this.

 

I already said I'd be far from shocked if this is true.

 

But with that being said I hope this marks the end of all the talk about how we should be ashamed that our championship teams were comprised of Performance Enhanced players, because if not for Papi and his steroids there is no 2004 championship in Boston.

 

LOL.

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And you believe every word he says?

 

Lets look at things from the flipside. If we take A-Rod or Clemens or even Pettitte at his word we're being stupid and nieve. You really think a f***ing protein shake could have that effect of Ortiz? Dude juiced, he knows it, we know it, you know it. You can just tell by reading his quotes, just like you could just tell the other day that A-Rod was lying. Hop off his dick buddy and face reality/

 

If Ortiz took something it wouldn't be shocking, and I'd take the same line I have been for everyone else, who gives a s***. I'm not obsessed with numbers and records like some. Put a good product on the field and let er rip.

 

At this point I wouldn't care if Dustin Pedroia was shoving mentos and diet coke up his ass for some sort of performance enhancement.

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Maybe just make sure the articles you post aren't two years old

Honestly, who gives a s***?

 

 

This is a relevant story right now one way or the other. Just for you though, I'll bump it next time.

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Honestly, who gives a s***?

 

 

This is a relevant story right now one way or the other. Just for you though, I'll bump it next time.

This article is relevant to nothing at this time. It is just an old story.
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I remember reading this article back like 2 years ago...

 

Anyway...whats up guys. I'm new here...I post a lot on some football fan forums being a huge Dolphins fan, but haven't found a good Red Sox message board until now.

 

Ok...let the bashing begin;-).

 

Welcome. But Dolphins? Seriously?

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Guilty. I can't wait to see how some of the sox fans who have relentlessly bashed the yankee orgnaization react to this. The way I look at it is that this is just another indication of just how rampant it was. Everyone was doing it.

 

But with that being said I hope this marks the end of all the talk about how we should be ashamed that our championship teams were comprised of Performance Enhanced players, because if not for Papi and his steroids there is no 2004 championship in Boston.

 

hahahahaha. i love how the second this is posted during the week of A-rod's confession you immediately jump all over a sox player who this happened to awhle ago. so defensive. i respect that.

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