5/2 vs. Tampa Bay Rays

[das11209]

Jacoby at the top of the line-up makes a lot of difference..

[BoSox21]

the legend of Dutty grows

[ORS]

Runs commala, runs commala, thankee-sai.

[Beaneater]

I seriously don't know which of those guys I love more. I guess it's Duddy by a hair right now, but Ellsbury is teh awesome.

[soxfan17881]

Hey, can one of you guys up there in New England give NESN a call and ask them to wipe off the lens on that camera behind home plate?

[das11209]

WTF happened with MLB.TV?

[ORS]

Haha, stupid f***. You're fast, but not Ellsbury fast.

[Thumper]

Haha' date=' stupid f***. You're fast, but not Ellsbury fast.[/quote']

 

That should be the new catch phrase for the Red Sox.

[BoSox21]

wtf is Crawford doing with his team down by 5? the goal is baserunners at that point

[BoSox21]

hahaha, what a s***** 2 minutes for Crawford

[Beaneater]

Just your everyday 5-3-2 double play.

[ORS]

Start the merry-go-round back up.

[Beaneater]

I asked this in a previous GT, but I can't remember if I got an answer: why does Ellsbury draw so many walks? As a pitcher, you have to know that walking him is the equivalent of giving up a double -- if second base is open, he will soon possess it. He's not going to kill you with a lot of longballs, so why not pitch to him?

[BoSox21]

I asked this in a previous GT' date=' but I can't remember if I got an answer: why does Ellsbury draw so many walks? As a pitcher, you have to know that walking him is the equivalent of giving up a double -- if second base is open, he will soon possess it. He's not going to kill you with a lot of longballs, so why not pitch to him?[/quote']

 

unless you wanna give him fastballs down the middle all night, there is a chance he'll walk

[Beaneater]

unless you wanna give him fastballs down the middle all night' date=' there is a chance he'll walk[/quote']

 

Of course there's a chance, but he has walked more than Manny this year. And I think we can agree on two things: Manny is a more dangerous hitter than Ellsbury, and Ellsbury is a more dangerous runner. Does Ellsbury just have a fantastic eye?

[Beaneater]

Some of those runs we squandered in the 5th and 6th would come in handy right about now.

[Beaneater]

I was going to moan about our bullpen, but in their defense both of those runs were unearned (thx Julio!). I am, however, going to go nuts if I see another reliever enter the game and promptly walk the first batter he faces.

[Beaneater]

7 pitches, 7 strikes, 3 outs. That's rich Paps goodness.

[Cocos Disciples]

Nice hitting today.

[Jayhawk Bill]

Checking Pitch f/x this morning (just for Buchholz and Jackson), Chuck Meriwether called a tight strike zone. Jackson lost seven strikes, while Buchholz lost eight, all of those calls coming near the top and bottom of the zone. Neither pitcher had a thrown ball called a strike by Meriwether.

 

With a tight strike zone, Boston's discipline gives them an advantage. Our margin of victory was greater than that, but it helped.

[ORS]

I got the Ray's feed yesterday (like I always do in Orlando), and they utilized the typical "off from center and over the right shoulder" camera angle. What's surprising to me is that there were no balls called strikes. That view, combined with my viewing experience of the ever shrinking strikezone, made me think that both pitchers received some fortunate calls. It goes to show that the modern focus on more offense (I credit the league office for this) has conditioned my interpretation of the strikezone to match those of the officials calling the game, and that the real rulebook version of the strikezone is larger than what many of us have seen in application.

[BoSox21]

Of course there's a chance' date=' but he has walked more than Manny this year. And I think we can agree on two things: Manny is a more dangerous hitter than Ellsbury, and Ellsbury is a more dangerous runner. Does Ellsbury just have a fantastic eye?[/quote']

 

drawing walks and going deep into pitch counts is something prospects are preached as they rise through the Sox system so yea, I'd say Ellsbury has at least average talent at drawing walks

[ksushi]

I got the Ray's feed yesterday (like I always do in Orlando)' date=' and they utilized the typical "off from center and over the right shoulder" camera angle. What's surprising to me is that there were no balls called strikes. That view, combined with my viewing experience of the ever shrinking strikezone, made me think that both pitchers received some fortunate calls. It goes to show that the modern focus on more offense (I credit the league office for this) has conditioned my interpretation of the strikezone to match those of the officials calling the game, and that the real rulebook version of the strikezone is larger than what many of us have seen in application.[/quote']

 

Seem to you like the zone has really shrunk over the past year or two? I feel like two years ago the corners were a little more hittable. Now, it seems, you have to have a reputation to get those calls.

[ORS]

I think it's been more than the last year or two. To me, it feels like the zone has shrunk over the last decade. Some of the pitches last night that were called strikes and appeared borderline to me were right in the same area I'm used to seeing called balls against teams with a rep for patience.

[ksushi]

I've definitely noticed a shrinking in the zone. Not sure what could explain it, but it definitely is a cross baseball thing. Even in the minor leagues, I go to a lot of games at Pawtucket, and it seems like the zone has been shrinking.

[Jayhawk Bill]

Yah...

 

Ummm

 

NEWS FLASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

They changed the strike zone years ago and remember that Questec thingy you two had a hard-on about? Yah it solved a ton of issues.. Its a well defined strike zone.. I cant believe two of the most heavy posters on this board are baffled.. then again Im not surprised at all.

 

Welcome back to the community, Timlin in the 8th. Good to see that you are still not surprised at all.