Schilling requires major shoulder surgery

[jacksonianmarch]

When Nolan Ryan was with the Astros I recall that he had a frayed tendon in his elbow. Surgery was recommended. Ryan declined. He shut it down and said if it healed fine and if it didn't he would retire. It healed and he pitched for several more years. Of course' date=' Ryan was much younger than Schilling when his injury occurred.[/quote']

 

What they are describing is not a frayed tendon. They are describing a torn tendon. Fraying leaves a significant amount of the tendon intact, which leaves rehab as an option. What Dr. Morgan is describing is a tendon that is split longitudinally in multiple spots, leaving no one area strong enough to handle the load.

[a700hitter]

If he never pitches again, I'll miss the big lug, but he'll always be an icon for bringing home two World Championships.

[ARod2212]

The only reason this matters is because it hurts the Sox depth in the rotation. Besides that, it doesn't really make that much of a difference. They weren't depending upon Schilling to give them that much this year, and were probably expecting an injury at some point anyway.

 

I do like the Sox forcing him to not get the surgery though. That way when he comes back still injured at the ASB, he can cost them a game or two before shutting it down for good.

[BSN07]

If he never pitches again' date=' I'll miss the big lug, but he'll always be an icon for bringing home two World Championships.[/quote']

 

I second that:thumbsup:

[TheKilo]

 

I do like the Sox forcing him to not get the surgery though. That way when he comes back still injured at the ASB, he can cost them a game or two before shutting it down for good.

 

What happens if he pitches well and is fresh for the stretch run?

 

OR DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND????

[schillingouttheks]

What happens if he pitches well and is fresh for the stretch run?

 

OR DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND????

 

It's okay. When the patchwork of rookies and the Moose show how fragile the Yanks' rotation is, he'll wish he had Schilling to stick in there.

[kreinbihl34]

It's okay. When the patchwork of rookies and the Moose show how fragile the Yanks' rotation is' date=' he'll wish he had Schilling to stick in there.[/quote']

 

Are you kidding me? Moose is the greatest pitcher to ever put on the pinstripes. His leadership will help Tubby and Hughes out. With Moose just being there is helping make the other two future hall of fame members.

 

Kidding:dunno:

[jacksonianmarch]

What happens if he pitches well and is fresh for the stretch run?

 

OR DID I JUST BLOW YOUR MIND????

 

If what Morgan says is true, then that is a very low likelihood situation.

[jacksonianmarch]

It's okay. When the patchwork of rookies and the Moose show how fragile the Yanks' rotation is' date=' he'll wish he had Schilling to stick in there.[/quote']

 

with no Schill, the yankees and sox open the season with 2 rookies in the rotation (Moose will start the yr in the rotation). Mussina and Wake are pretty much interchangeable at this point. Both had interesting yrs the past 2 yrs, both missed some time, and both are old as dirt.

[TheKilo]

If what Morgan says is true' date=' then that is a very low likelihood situation.[/quote']

 

Yeah I tend to agree. The point still needs to be made.

[jacksonianmarch]

Absolutely. Nothing is written in stone here. Until I see the MRI, I wont make any assumptions at all. But the sox arent exactly coming out and saying his shoulder is rehabable. They are saying they will try.

[BSN07]

As far as I'm concerned, I expect no contribution from Schilling this season.

[kreinbihl34]

with no Schill' date=' the yankees and sox open the season with 2 rookies in the rotation (Moose will start the yr in the rotation). [b']Mussina and Wake are pretty much interchangeable at this point.[/b] Both had interesting yrs the past 2 yrs, both missed some time, and both are old as dirt.

 

Are you serious?

Moose's whole career has been built on his movement of his pitches. Last year showed the pitches aren't moving anymore and he never had the fastball to blow someone away. Now with no movement and a mid 80's fastball he's nothing but a highly paid batting practice pitcher.

 

Wake is the same Wake as five years ago. Same stuff and the results are the same. He might get hurt, or he might not.

 

Wake can still pitch. Moose just can't hack it anymore.

[schillingouttheks]

with no Schill' date=' the yankees and sox open the season with 2 rookies in the rotation (Moose will start the yr in the rotation). Mussina and Wake are pretty much interchangeable at this point. Both had interesting yrs the past 2 yrs, both missed some time, and both are old as dirt.[/quote']

 

Okay. The difference is that one of our rookies (is Lester even considered a rookie anymore?) won the clinching game of the world series and pitched fairly decently for coming from cancer. The other stud rookie threw a no-no.

 

I have more faith in our rookies to handle what's on their plate than you should have about yours.

[jacksonianmarch]

And our rookie was dominant in relief of Clemens in an elimination game and the other threw 3 solid games.

[TheKilo]

And our rookie was dominant in relief of Clemens in an elimination game and the other threw 3 solid games.

 

Well, if we want to play this game...

 

One of our rookies has a career 11-2 record, and the other is the best pitching prospect in baseball, when your prize 'spect needs to show he can stay healthy.

[jacksonianmarch]

That 11-2 record is about as transparent as Clemen's steroids denial and your 'spect didnt exactly make it through the yr unscathed either.

[kreinbihl34]

Doesn't matter, he got it done when needed.

Call it what you want, but the kid's got moxie. You can't teach it.

 

Your one prospect has a innings limit. The other was hurt last season.

 

I'll take our situation.

[TheKilo]

That 11-2 record is about as transparent as Clemen's steroids denial and your 'spect didnt exactly make it through the yr unscathed either.

 

But you would agree that Lester has thrown more than "three solid games"

 

And I'll take shoulder fatigue over a severe leg injury any day.

[Gom]

Maybe you can answer this thing for me, since some of you are minor league junkies.

 

Who is considered the better prospect, Phil Hughes or Clay Buchholz? Not your opinions, what do the so-called experts say?

[Cocos Disciples]

Hughes isn't really considered a prospect, so its hard to say.

[BSN07]

Hughes/Bailey at this point last yr where considered the best pitching prospects. At the same point this yr, Buchholz is considered to be the best pitching prospect.

 

 

To compare the two is difficult. Buchholz started pitching much later in his career the Hughes.

 

Both could be #1's if they fufill there potential.

 

Both have good fastballs, complmented by a good selection of off speed pitches. I'm not trying to be a homer, but I beleive its been said that Buchholz repetoire is a little deeper the Hughes.

 

Hughes has shown he can be bit by the injury bug, but nothing substantial. Clay had a weak shoulder by the end of last season. Both are young and still buliding up there bodys.

 

Both teams are lucky to have who they have, and for most people its like splitting hairs between them.

[Mr Crunchy]

look for hughes and chamberlain to be babied along until the yanks are 8 out come may 30

then they'll be put to the test

i still have that image of joba trying to slap black flies of his bulbous head last october

you would think he'd be used to bugs and other insects playing in the bronx

[He Hate Me]

look for hughes and chamberlain to be babied along until the yanks are 8 out come may 30

then they'll be put to the test

i still have that image of joba trying to slap black flies of his bulbous head last october

you would think he'd be used to bugs and other insects playing in the bronx

 

the problem is the Sox don't come around that often.

[Gom]

LOL!

[TC33]

Apropou of nothing but Shaughnessy is a real A..hole!:thumbdown