Schilling in 2008.

[.406]

With Schilling pitching as well as he did yesterday, it begs the question: Should the Red Sox bring Schilling back next season? It's a viable question. Health risks, age, etc. And yet he still seems to be effective. So should they? Or shouldn't they?

[Thumper]

With Schilling pitching as well as he did yesterday' date=' it begs the question: Should the Red Sox bring Schilling back next season? It's a viable question. Health risks, age, etc. And yet he still seems to be effective. So should they? Or shouldn't they?

 

Schilling, nothing but love and respect. He's been there always in the postseason and most of the time in the regular season.

 

But I don't think the Sox will be carrying him into 2008. If anything he won't get a contract deal, declare free agency, and go to a ball club that would take him because of his name, probably Tampa Bay.

[ORS]

Tough call. I'd try and keep him on a series of one year deals. Nothing longer. That way, when the age catches up to him, you aren't on the hook. But, I'd definitely bring him back for another year.

 

And, can you stop pimping your s***** blog? If you want to come and discuss the team, I'm all for it. But, it seems like the only thing you post here is a link to your tripe. You have your own spot on the interweb, want a cookie?

[KeepTheFaith1229]

I'd take him back on a 1 year deal but I doubt he'd take one.

[YAZMAN]

I'd take him back on a 1 year deal but I doubt he'd take one.

 

+1

[jacksonianmarch]

Schilling is an attention whore. If he continues his postseason effectiveness, he will ask for a contract due his level of whoredom. And there are plenty of teams that would oblige, most notably NL teams. I wouldnt be surprised if Philly comes calling to close the circle.

[RobZombie]

It is a tough call. If the Sox want to sign a pitcher their choices are Schilling and Colon. Personally, my preference is Colon. Younger and was throwing 95 in his final start.

[a700hitter]

If Buehrle or Zambrano was available, I'd have preferred to put the money towards a younger established arm. Most of the big name pitchers have re-signed with their teams. There is really no impact pitcher available on the FA market. Schilling will attract a lot of attention due to the lack of available pitchers. In the end, he will get more than the $13 million/year he was asking for in Spring Training. If he walks, we are left with Beckett, Dice K, and 3 question marks. We all love this kid Bucholz, but we really don't know if he is ready to hold down the third or fourth rotation spot for the entire season. Lester is a question mark, and Wakefield has been showing a tendency to break down the last two years with back problems. I think the Sox need to re-sign Schilling.

[jacksonianmarch]

Technically, Schilling is just as big a ?? as Wake. And for the season, Wake was what he always is. A reliable, but not spectacular arm. You put innings eaters like Beckett and DiceK along with Wake and you could deal with the growing pains of the kids.

[a700hitter]

Technically' date=' Schilling is just as big a ?? as Wake. And for the season, Wake was what he always is. A reliable, but not spectacular arm. You put innings eaters like Beckett and DiceK along with Wake and you could deal with the growing pains of the kids.[/quote']I'm not buying that one. The knuckleball is such an inconsistent pitch from game to game and inning to inning. There is no comparison.

[Cocos Disciples]

It is a tough call. If the Sox want to sign a pitcher their choices are Schilling and Colon. Personally' date=' my preference is Colon. Younger and was throwing 95 in his final start.[/quote']

 

Colon? Bartolo Colon? My god, no thank you. Sure he's younger, but Bobby Kielty is younger than Manny Ramirez.

 

In his last 2 seasons:

 

28 starts, 155 2/3 innings, 203 hits, 26 home runs, 7-13 WL, 5.90 ERA.

[jacksonianmarch]

I'm not buying that one. The knuckleball is such an inconsistent pitch from game to game and inning to inning. There is no comparison.

 

the knuckleball keeps him consistent yr to yr. Schilling may or may not continue to see his stuff drop and as we saw with Mussina, there is a level to which stuff decline takes you from being "crafty" to being s*****.

[a700hitter]

the knuckleball keeps him consistent yr to yr. Schilling may or may not continue to see his stuff drop and as we saw with Mussina' date=' there is a level to which stuff decline takes you from being "crafty" to being s*****.[/quote']Regardless of the Wakefield -Schilling debate, there are three open spots after Becket and Dice K. There's room enough for both.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

If there is a reason the front office should not bring back Curt Schilling it should be one reason and one reason only....

 

Clay Buchholz

 

However, I'm not worried about next season...Curt Schilling may be the greatest postseason pitcher ever and he has two more series to pad those stats. Big game pitchers are the best and he is certainly one of the best...I just wish he wouldn't talk so much.

[a700hitter]

If there is a reason the front office should not bring back Curt Schilling it should be one reason and one reason only....

 

Clay Buchholz

 

However, I'm not worried about next season...Curt Schilling may be the greatest postseason pitcher ever and he has two more series to pad those stats. Big game pitchers are the best and he is certainly one of the best...I just wish he wouldn't talk so much.

Assuming Bucholz can stay in the rotation all year with Becket and Dice K, Who are your other two starters?

[jacksonianmarch]

Regardless of the Wakefield -Schilling debate' date=' there are three open spots after Becket and Dice K. There's room enough for both.[/quote']

 

Alright, then lets say this. Schilling gets the 13 mil for 1 yr offer he wanted and he pushes that back and says, Theo, I want 3 yrs 39 mil and 3 other teams have already offered this. What do you do? Do you hang onto him knowing that he barely got through this season?

[a700hitter]

Alright' date=' then lets say this. Schilling gets the 13 mil for 1 yr offer he wanted and he pushes that back and says, Theo, I want 3 yrs 39 mil and 3 other teams have already offered this. What do you do? Do you hang onto him knowing that he barely got through this season?[/quote']Let's see if he gets a guaranteed 3 year offer first. I was in favor of extending him by one year in ST. That clearly would have been the right move, since all the marquee guys have been taken off the market.

[jacksonianmarch]

Lets just say that is what he brings to the table. Kinda like with Pedro, nobody knew what he really got, but there is that deadline to offer arb and there certainly is the possibility that Schill can get a multiyr deal.

[jacksonianmarch]

If I told you that a 3 yr deal gets Schill, anything less makes him walk, do you bite and keep him?

[Cocos Disciples]

If he asks for 3/39 I'd say "thanks for 04 (and hopefully 07), have a nice year in Tampa."

[jacksonianmarch]

One thing that losing Schilling would do is put a ton of pressure on DiceK. He'll be leaned on as the #2 and would need to perform as such.

[riverside sluggers]

If I told you that a 3 yr deal gets Schill' date=' anything less makes him walk, do you bite and keep him?[/quote']

 

He's approaching his 41st birthday and his fastball is now sitting in the high 80s, as well as not having a complete season since 2004... I thank him for all that hes done and then laugh at that contract

 

One thing that losing Schilling would do is put a ton of pressure on DiceK. He'll be leaned on as the #2 and would need to perform as such.

 

I dont think it will be as much pressure as it was on his rookie season, first year in the US, first postseason in the US, etc. Its not like he was circa Jason Johnson this year. He did top 200 innings & 200 Ks while notching 15 Ws. From June through the end of the season he was hit with the burden of newest Sox pitcher with close to nill run support. Another year under his belt, Im expecting a good bounceback year

[Sam Malone]

If I told you that a 3 yr deal gets Schill' date=' anything less makes him walk, do you bite and keep him?[/quote']

 

The Red Sox aren't as dumb as the Yankees. Signing Mussina last year to 2 years and 24 million was dumb.

[a700hitter]

Lets just say that is what he brings to the table. Kinda like with Pedro' date=' nobody knew what he really got, but there is that deadline to offer arb and there certainly is the possibility that Schill can get a multiyr deal.[/quote']

Pedro was 33 not 43. You are starting to act a little like Rivernator as you are facing elimination.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Red Sox aren't as dumb as the Yankees. Signing Mussina last year to 2 years and 24 million was dumb.

 

I didnt think the 2 yr deal was bad at the time. he was coming off a great yr and going 2 yrs was certainly plausible. I think Moose wanted 3 yrs, we wanted 1 and we met him in the middle. The good thing is, he might even have a market in the NL if we throw in some $$. I'd do it. Even though he was alright tonight, he has nothing and will only worsen.

[jacksonianmarch]

Pedro was 33 not 43. You are starting to act a little like Rivernator as you are facing elimination.

 

Are you serious? I'm actually not terribly upset. I am just saying what could happen this offseason.

 

I would think it is very plausible that Schilling could get long term offers on the table, and if the sox needed to go multiple yrs, would you do it?

[riverside sluggers]

Schilling's stuff can be able to last this postseason but... having him at this stage for multiple years in the AL East? No thanks

[BoSox21]

I'd be shocked if at least one team didn't offer him a three-year deal, which Boston wouldn't match so I don't think he'll be back, nor would I take him for three years

[mar_022]

im not sure schill even wants to pitch that much longer...remember he said that this would be his last year, before reconsidering. i havent checked his blog lately, but i just wanted to point out that he may not want a three year deal...i guess he could just retire though halfway thru the contract

[TheKilo]

http://www.talksox.com/forum/talk-sox/8192-schilling-pitch-2008-a.html

 

Already a thread, besides I knew you were just going to pimp your blog anyways.

 

edit - ORS beat me to it. The point stands.