July 16th vs. Kansas City

[riverside sluggers]

Yesss Sox win, 56-36, back to 20 games above .500

 

Gabbard has been having a good run. If no trade is made for a starter, he should def stay in the rotation once Curt comes back. Tavarez to the pen

 

Ortiz/Manny... that thunder & lightning duo have come back to form after the all-star break. Over the last 5 games they have combined for 4 HRs, 15 RBIs

[BoSox21]

Gabbard was terrific tonight, thats all there is to it

[schillingouttheks]

Gabbard's really making a case to bump Tavarez out of the rotation once Curt comes back. Obviously I'd rather have them trade for another proven SP, but if they decide to get a bat instead of a pitcher, Gabbard should be staying with the big boys.

[msubulldogs21]

Nice win tonight. Can't say enough about Gabbard's performace. He even set a career high with 8 K's.

 

In a perfect world, Gabbard would continue to pitch well and stay in the rotation, Schilling would come back with a 2nd half surge, and Tavarez would go to the pen.

[DrewDaGreat]

Awesome job by Gabbard!

[VA Sox Fan]

Whatever, I'll take the high road.

 

Gabbard looked good tonight.

 

I hope you can GO f*** YOURSELF (thank you Fitzy) on the high road

[jacksonianmarch]

I hope you can GO f*** YOURSELF (thank you Fitzy) on the high road

 

Maybe I will. Maybe I will. Hmmm.

 

It will be interesting to see what Tito decides to do. Gabbard or Tavarez?

[riverside sluggers]

both drew and vtek are playing tonight

 

I know that from before... I was just giving an update from gordon edes from the pre-game meeting with the press. I didnt make it up that Tito said there wouldve been a chance they wouldnt play tonight

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Whatever, I'll take the high road.

 

Gabbard looked good tonight.

 

Take the high road?

 

You just played down the performance of Kason Gabbard, said the Royals couldn't hit a pitcher who has cancer and....oh about that cancer...that just speaks volumes about the player and person Jon Lester is and says nothing about the Kansas City Royals or the performance of Kason Gabbard tonight.

 

You aren't taking the high road after those comments....that was pretty low....even for you

[a700hitter]

Nice game by the kid, but I hope the FO doesn't get a false sense of security and think they don't need another arm. The KC Royals had a 21 yr old batting cleanup tonight. They could be shutout hitting off a tee.

[jacksonianmarch]

Nice game by the kid' date=' but I hope the FO doesn't get a false sense of security and think they don't need another arm. The KC Royals had a 21 yr old batting cleanup tonight. They could be shutout hitting off a tee.[/quote']

 

here is the point I have been trying to make. Good post.

[riverside sluggers]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7541/career;_ylt=AvLiE_nM9_8RwXTHfw83BwOFCLcF

 

Sox have to hit this guy. Tomorrow's starter has been changed to Leo Nunez. In 48 games over the last 2 seasons he has compiled a career 6.99 ERA, opposing .324 BA, and 11 HRs allowed in 67 innings. This will be his first career start in the majors

[schillingouttheks]

... he earned a start in the majors with those numbers?

 

Don't worry. The Sox will probably find a way to make him look like a Cy Young award winner.

[RedSoxRooter]

dude, he looks like an alien. Spooky.

 

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/players/20070502/7541.jpg

[BoSox21]

especially after tonight, could Gabbard be our biggest available trade chip to make some noise at the deadline?

[Cocos Disciples]

Good game. Nice to see Ortiz and Manny homer in the same game, not to mention Pedroia. Gabbard was excellent throughout the entire game. Not a lot of hard hit balls, and only one walk. Pitched the game of his life. Still 9 up on the Yankees.

[TheKilo]

especially after tonight' date=' could Gabbard be our biggest available trade chip to make some noise at the deadline?[/quote']

 

If you're dealing Gabbard, what are you going to get that's better than what he's given you?

 

If you want MLB talent, you're gonna need to trade blue chip prospects or MLB talent, not AAAA filler.

 

And until he proves otherwise, Gabbard is that filler. Nice game though.

[a700hitter]

If you're dealing Gabbard, what are you going to get that's better than what he's given you?

 

If you want MLB talent, you're gonna need to trade blue chip prospects or MLB talent, not AAAA filler.

 

And until he proves otherwise, Gabbard is that filler. Nice game though.

He might get us a quality rental.

[BoSox21]

If you're dealing Gabbard, what are you going to get that's better than what he's given you?

 

If you want MLB talent, you're gonna need to trade blue chip prospects or MLB talent, not AAAA filler.

 

And until he proves otherwise, Gabbard is that filler. Nice game though.

 

it depends what they're looking for. there's been talk of that right handed hitter off the bench with some speed and a bit of pop in his bat. Gabbard and WMP could probably be dealt for a Randy Winn-type. I also think Gabbard could fetch a good reliever

[jacksonianmarch]

If you're dealing Gabbard, what are you going to get that's better than what he's given you?

 

If you want MLB talent, you're gonna need to trade blue chip prospects or MLB talent, not AAAA filler.

 

And until he proves otherwise, Gabbard is that filler. Nice game though.

 

I agree. Coming into the game against the RoyAAAls, he had a WHIP over 1.5. That is AWFUL. Granted, I'd deal Igawa straight up for him, LOL. But until he can locate for an extended period of time, he will be nothing more than the lefty version of Shawn Chacon. He'll have his good games, but he will get murdered by good hitting clubs.

[jacksonianmarch]

it depends what they're looking for. there's been talk of that right handed hitter off the bench with some speed and a bit of pop in his bat. Gabbard and WMP could probably be dealt for a Randy Winn-type. I also think Gabbard could fetch a good reliever

 

not a chance in hell. Relievers are the most traded commodities over the trade deadline and the good ones net top prospects. Unless you are looking for a reclamation project, Gabbard will be the third wheel in a package for a good reliever.

[ORS]

Relievers are the most traded commodities over the trade deadline and the good ones net top prospects.

I'd like to see the list that caused this post.

[jacksonianmarch]

I'd like to see the list that caused this post.

 

you like to bust my balls ORS. Here ya go

 

2006

Francisco Cordero

Brian Corey

Eddie Guardado

Kyle Lohse (was a reliever when he was dealt)

Mike MacDougal

Jeremy Affeldt

Denny Bautista

Matt Smith

Vinnie Chulk

Brian Sikorski

Jeremy Accardo

Scott Dohmann

Danys Baez

Odalis Perez (also a reliever when he was dealt)

Justin Germano

Scott Williamson

Rheal Cormier

Jorge de la Rosa

Roberto Hernandez

Bob Wickman

Mike Stanton

 

 

All from last yr.

[ORS]

I'm still awaiting the top prospects involved in those trades.

[CrespoBlows]

According to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star, the Dodgers are currently the top suitor for 33 year-old reliever Octavio Dotel. Dutton reports that Royals GM Dayton Moore is said to be asking for a position player regular, like James Loney or Matt Kemp. Lest you think Dutton is off his rocker, consider that Tony Jackson of the L.A. Daily News says the same thing.

 

Consider that the Astros will probably want Jacoby Ellsbury for Brad Lidge. None of the relievers on that list are great, but if a great one gets traded this deadline, you can expect a great prospect to go the other way.

 

I think Dotel was involved in a trade in 2004, that sent Mark Teahen to KC.

[KeepTheFaith1229]

I agree. Coming into the game against the RoyAAAls' date=' he had a WHIP over 1.5. That is AWFUL. Granted, I'd deal Igawa straight up for him, LOL. But until he can locate for an extended period of time, he will be nothing more than the lefty version of Shawn Chacon. He'll have his good games, but he will get murdered by good hitting clubs.[/quote']

 

the WHIP is hugely inflated from his one seattle start.

[CrespoBlows]

the WHIP is hugely inflated from his one seattle start.

 

That's true, but he's always had an issue with free passes.

[ORS]

Consider that the Astros will probably want Jacoby Ellsbury for Brad Lidge. None of the relievers on that list are great, but if a great one gets traded this deadline, you can expect a great prospect to go the other way.

 

I think Dotel was involved in a trade in 2004, that sent Mark Teahen to KC.

Oh, I know what teams ask for, but you don't see it in terms of actual trades made. In other words, while the expected return is high, the market doesn't bear it. The best on that list is Francisco Cordero. He and Kevin Mensch were traded for a two month rental of Carlos Lee. Lee's a very good player, but the rental aspect of the trade severly reduced his value. Certainly below what one would put on a top prospect who the team will control for 6 years.