Hughes is for real

[Jon_Papelboner]

I was thinking he might be overrated , especially after his first start in which he didn't look very good. But tonight was just amazing. He was simply never tested, nobody really hit anything that hard and I believe he at least one strike out an inning. His fastball and curve were extremely good.

 

As for the injury, it doesn't really bother me that much since he was going to be sent down anyway as soon as someone comes back. It sucks for now cuz we have no starting pitching but I think it's good that he gets some time off on a positive note. I will be looking forward to watching this guy pitch a few months from now.

[a700hitter]

I was thinking he might be overrated , especially after his first start in which he didn't look very good. But tonight was just amazing. He was simply never tested, nobody really hit anything that hard and I believe he at least one strike out an inning. His fastball and curve were extremely good.

 

As for the injury, it doesn't really bother me that much since he was going to be sent down anyway as soon as someone comes back. It sucks for now cuz we have no starting pitching but I think it's good that he gets some time off on a positive note. I will be looking forward to watching this guy pitch a few months from now.

yes, he is a legitimate..."prospect"

[TheKilo]

I was thinking he might be overrated , especially after his first start in which he didn't look very good. But tonight was just amazing. He was simply never tested, nobody really hit anything that hard and I believe he at least one strike out an inning. His fastball and curve were extremely good.

 

As for the injury, it doesn't really bother me that much since he was going to be sent down anyway as soon as someone comes back. It sucks for now cuz we have no starting pitching but I think it's good that he gets some time off on a positive note. I will be looking forward to watching this guy pitch a few months from now.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Yankee fans love small sample sizes.

[Jon_Papelboner]

Say small sample size all you want, I know what I saw. A well located fastball, a very good changeup and an excellent curve. That's there now and it will be there 20 starts from now.

[a700hitter]

Say small sample size all you want' date=' I know what I saw. A well located fastball, a very good changeup and an excellent curve. That's there now and it will be there 20 starts from now.[/quote']but he'll miss about 8 starts.

[TheKilo]

Say small sample size all you want' date=' I know what I saw. A well located fastball, a very good changeup and an excellent curve. That's there now and it will be there 20 starts from now.[/quote']

 

I'm sure there are truckloads of pitchers who could locate pitches for a start.

 

I agree he'll be very good, but i think he's a smidge overrated.

[a700hitter]

He's couple of years away from making an impact, but it would have been interesting to watch him develop. Now, he has had a setback like most young pitchers.

[Gom]

He is VASTLY overrated. He is pretty much here to stay, Pavano is no longer an option for the Yankees. He tweaked his calf or hamstring, no big deal.

 

All in all, a phenomenal pitching performance...but it is just one game. I hope he turns out to be something great, but I will reserve judgement until I see how he handles a late season start with first place on the line against the Red Sox.

 

On another note, I had to turn off the radio going home tonight. The sports talk shows have all but given the rookie of the year and cy young awards already locked up for Phil Hughes. Nothing like buying into the hype. It's almost as bad as being in Boston.

[HeadOfSoxNation]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Yankee fans love small sample sizes.

 

That's true...but let them have their fun. Hughes pitched great...if someone came up from AAA ball for us and dominated like this, we'd all be going crazy as well.

[TheKilo]

He is VASTLY overrated. He is pretty much here to stay, Pavano is no longer an option for the Yankees. He tweaked his calf or hamstring, no big deal.

 

All in all, a phenomenal pitching performance...but it is just one game. I hope he turns out to be something great, but I will reserve judgement until I see how he handles a late season start with first place on the line against the Red Sox.

 

On another note, I had to turn off the radio going home tonight. The sports talk shows have all but given the rookie of the year and cy young awards already locked up for Phil Hughes. Nothing like buying into the hype. It's almost as bad as being in Boston.

 

Umm...the dude's out a month.

[riverside sluggers]

Whoa lets hold off on giving the Cy Young & Rookie of the Year to Hughes. Like Kilio said he'll be out for a month or moth and a half. Cy Young will probably go to Johan Santanna. No starting pitcher in the AL is above him in my book.

 

Now youre going to call me a Sox homer, maybe indeed I am, but the leading candidate for ROY is Matsuzaka. He'll have his bumps of course going through the AL but still is estmiated to finish with 15-18 wins, 3.75-4.15 ERA, 200+ innings isnt out of the question, 225 +/- Ks. Right now his only competitor for that is the D-Rays Delmon Young

 

EDIT: If anyone needs to be fired or questioned, its the Yankees training/medical staff. Yet another hamstring injury, I heard on the radio that they had stopped the pitchers doing sprints in preparation for their games

[Cocos Disciples]

Hughes is out-for real.

[BoSox21]

I'd say he's is definitely looking like a Yankee starting pitcher....he's already injured

[jacksonianmarch]

He was buzzsaw against that offense. It wasnt just the no-hit bid. He didnt allow a ball out of the infield for nearly 5 innings.

[He Hate Me]

I'm sure there are truckloads of pitchers who could locate pitches for a start.

 

I agree he'll be very good, but i think he's a smidge overrated.

 

yeah, not at all like Jon Lester when he came up (future Roger Clemens cough)

[TheKilo]

yeah' date=' not at all like Jon Lester when he came up (future Roger Clemens cough)[/quote']

 

Anyone who compared Jon Lester to Clemens is an idiot.

[He Hate Me]

Anyone who compared Jon Lester to Clemens is an idiot.

 

Thats all I heard before he came up.

[ORS]

Wrong. It was Papelbon that got compared to Clemens.

[EvilDonut]

I was thinking he might be overrated ' date=' especially after his first start in which he didn't look very good. But tonight was just amazing. He was simply never tested, nobody really hit anything that hard and I believe he at least one strike out an inning. His fastball and curve were extremely good.[/quote']

 

So it takes one start to determine he is overrated, but it takes one more to decide he is legit?

 

Not very consistent if you ask me.

[elsrbueno]

Wrong. It was Papelbon that got compared to Clemens.

 

He's right. Papelbon was the future Clemens, Lester was just a great prospect.

 

Hughes isn't considered one of the top pitching prospects in baseball for no good reason. He was on yesterday until he got hurt.

 

The sample size in effect until he does it over a prolonged period (more than one season) and before you call me out I've said that about Red Sox and other players too.

 

The minors are filled with top pitching prospects who never panned out. Even Lester started off 5 or 6 or 7 and 0 before coming back to earth a bit.

[adam123]

Great performance . But now hes out for 4-6 weeks bad news for the yanks

[rician blast]

Hughes is for Real

 

Jeez, I thought this thread was about him being "a real Yankee", ya know considering he's injured and all.

 

What happened to him anyway...a case of Pavanoitis?

[Rdsxmbnt]

Good start it sounds like. We'll just have to wait and see before hes pinned as the ace of the Yankees for the next 10 years after one start. (not that im comparing their talent level) but Devern Hansack also threw a no-hitter in his 2nd MLB start

[TGov]

I was thinking he might be overrated ' date=' especially after his first start in which he didn't look very good. But tonight was just amazing. [b']He was simply never tested[/b], nobody really hit anything that hard and I believe he at least one strike out an inning. His fastball and curve were extremely good.

 

That's it he wasn't tested, he had one great outing and look what he got for it, injured... you're getting way ahead of yourself here... he may be great in the future but right now, well, he's injured! :harhar:

[NateGrey]

Thats all I heard before he came up.

 

.. They compared Lester to Mark Mulder ..

[adam123]

does any one have any idea of when lester will be with the sox ??

[MANNYHOF24]

Maybe as early as next week, but probably in the middle of May sometime.

[adam123]

Cant wait till we get him in the rotation .

[riverside sluggers]

yeah' date=' not at all like Jon Lester when he came up (future Roger Clemens cough)[/quote']

 

whoah who was saying Jon Lester was a future Roger Clemens?

 

Anyways the Lester that was up in the bigs isnt the same one that was dealing up the ladder of the Sox system, if anything his sickness (minor car accident hurting his back) mustve had some effect. Id say his ceiling is Cliff Lee, soxprospects.com has the mlb comparison of Andy Pettitte

 

EDIT: I thought so...

 

rotoworld

Yankees fired director of performance enhancement Marty Miller.

 

The Phil Hughes injury was the last straw. Miller, hired over the winter as sort of a strength coach, was unpopular with some players and had several opt out of his program. The Yankees lost Mike Mussina, Chien-Ming Wang and Hideki Matsui to hamstring injuries before Hughes went down last night.

[Optimist]

Good. Hopefully the damage can be contained and we see an end to these injuries soon.