MLB Top 10 Busts

[jsinger121]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=2518991

[Matt]

2 Yankees and 0 Red Sox on that list. Good to see.

[a700hitter]

2 Yankees and 0 Red Sox on that list. Good to see.

3 Yankees, now including Ponson and 1 ex-yankee, Weaver.

[Youk Of The Nation]

If I was a Mariners fan, I dont think Id agree with Sexson or Beltre.

[jsinger121]

If I was a Mariners fan, I dont think Id agree with Sexson or Beltre.

 

What have they done to earn the contracts they were given. How about nothing

[riverside sluggers]

What Rockies starting pitcher was it that was given such a ridiculous contract and ended up being cut from the team?

[jsinger121]

What Rockies starting pitcher was it that was given such a ridiculous contract and ended up being cut from the team?

 

Denny Neagle after with he caught with a prositute.

[Papelbon58]

Mike Hampton didnt work out too well for them either

[RoyNHSox]

2 Yankees and 0 Red Sox on that list. Good to see.

 

Matt Clement inarguably could be added to the list.

[See Red]

Mike Hampton didnt work out too well for them either

 

Neither did Darryl Kile. I like, for the most part, the guys the Rockies have now, though.

[BoSox34]

Same here, they have a good young core, Ian Stewart and Troy Tulowitzki are going to be huge.

[MC Hammer]

What have they done to earn the contracts they were given. How about nothing

Seriously come on man. What hasn't Beltre done to earn his contract? I mean the guys hitting an amazing .256 with a whole 7 HRs. What else could you ask from a guy making almost 13 mill?

[Jon_Papelboner]

Willy Mo Pena is a bigger bust than Pavano when you consider what you lost for him. And Wright does not deserve to be on this list. Obviously a red sox fan made this list.

[yankeessuck013]

Except WMP is 24, and is pretty cheap. We can't judge if he is a bust until he takes over for Trot, most likely next year.

 

And if you don't think Pavano is a bust, look at how many starts he has made as a yankee and his ERA during that time, chyeaaa.

[riverside sluggers]

Willy Mo Pena is a bigger bust than Pavano when you consider what you lost for him. And Wright does not deserve to be on this list. Obviously a red sox fan made this list.

 

Carl Pavano was given 4 years/$40 million contract... The Yankees got 7 sub par starts out of him in 2 seasons, he's not a bust? What a steal for you guys!! :thumbsup:

[RedRuffing15]

....Pavanos a pretty big bust

[Jon_Papelboner]

Carl Pavano was given 4 years/$40 million contract... The Yankees got 7 sub par starts out of him in 2 seasons, he's not a bust? What a steal for you guys!! :thumbsup:

Please point out to me where I said he wasn't. Oh that's right, you can't because I didn't. What I said was WMP is a bigger bust because he has done exactly nothing for you guys while Arroyo is lighting it up in the NL. Yeah, real steal.

[Jon_Papelboner]

....Pavanos a pretty big bust

Beckett is one blister away from getting close.

[riverside sluggers]

Please point out to me where I said he wasn't. Oh that's right, you can't because I didn't. What I said was WMP is a bigger bust because he has done exactly nothing for you guys while Arroyo is lighting it up in the NL. Yeah, real steal.

 

And carl Pavano did a lot for the Yankees?

 

Key word about Arroyo is that he's lighting it up in the NL. Here in the AL East he'd probably have around a 4.50 ERA, but yes I would take that gladly

 

Wily Mo Pena stabilized the center field position batting .321 with 4 HRs, 21 RBIs until Coco Crisp returned. A pure judgement cant be made until he's given a full time gig in Boston.

 

Beckett is one blister away from getting close.

 

Beckett would have to miss a lot of time to match Pavano's track record

 

2004 - 2006

Beckett- 74 starts

Pavano- 48 starts

[Jon_Papelboner]

And carl Pavano did a lot for the Yankees?

 

Key word about Arroyo is that he's lighting it up in the NL. Here in the AL East he'd probably have around a 4.50 ERA, but yes I would take that gladly

 

Wily Mo Pena stabilized the center field position batting .321 with 4 HRs, 21 RBIs until Coco Crisp returned. A pure judgement cant be made until he's given a full time gig in Boston.

 

 

 

Beckett would have to miss a lot of time to match Pavano's track record

 

2004 - 2006

Beckett- 74 starts

Pavano- 48 starts

 

Oh I see. So you can judge Pavano with only a few starts, but you can't judge WMP who only played a few games? Uh, something doesn't add up.

Sorry, there isn't that big a difference between the AL and NL, maybe he wouldn't be piching AS well, but he'd still be a solid number 3 guy. Face it, if you had him, the AL East would not be a race. When you lose something big, and get basically nothing in return, it's called a bust. And it's too bad this writer failed to see this.

[riverside sluggers]

Oh I see. So you can judge Pavano with only a few starts, but you can't judge WMP who only played a few games? Uh, something doesn't add up.

Sorry, there isn't that big a difference between the AL and NL, maybe he wouldn't be piching AS well, but he'd still be a solid number 3 guy. Face it, if you had him, the AL East would not be a race. When you lose something big, and get basically nothing in return, it's called a bust. And it's too bad this writer failed to see this.

 

I cant judge Pavano because he's only made 17 starts for the Yankees in 2 seasons? 4 years/$40 million and he gets a mulligan for thus far missing 30 starts... He probably is given curtain calls just for showing up at Yankee Stadium in his street clothes with that logic

 

I said I would gladly take Arroyo's ERA, you walked pass by that easily.

 

Wily Mo Pena was brought into to be a platoon player with Trot, has he done that... yes with 321 avg, 4 HRs, 21 RBIs. The eventual plan is for him to become the next right fielder. The jury is still out on him

[Jon_Papelboner]

I cant judge Pavano because he's only made 17 starts for the Yankees in 2 seasons? 4 years/$40 million and he gets a mulligan for thus far missing 30 starts... He probably is given curtain calls just for showing up at Yankee Stadium in his street clothes with that logic

 

I said I would gladly take Arroyo's ERA, you walked pass by that easily.

 

Wily Mo Pena was brought into to be a platoon player with Trot, has he done that... yes with 321 avg, 4 HRs, 21 RBIs. The eventual plan is for him to become the next right fielder. The jury is still out on him

He's still only made 17 starts, which means we don't really know what kind of pitcher he can be. The fact that it's over 2 years is what makes him a bust, I'm not denying that.

But you can't deny that Theo made an absolute s*** trade that f***ed you guys over this season. WMP is gonna have to do alot better than those numbers to make up for what you guys lost, and recently he's just been a version 2 pavano on the DL.

[ORS]

Calling WMP a bust clearly shows your bias. He may or may not have been as valuable as Arroyo to this point, but he has been a valuable contributor. The Sox don't even have a 1/2 game lead if Harris or Mohr had to man CF when Coco was down. And, considering that Coco came back right about the same time he went down, all the Sox lost is a backup. Yes, Arroyo would help the team, but I don't think what his pitching ability is capable of in the AL East superscedes what WMP has already provided.

[Cityofchampions33]

Calling WMP a bust clearly shows your bias. He may or may not have been as valuable as Arroyo to this point, but he has been a valuable contributor. The Sox don't even have a 1/2 game lead if Harris or Mohr had to man CF when Coco was down. And, considering that Coco came back right about the same time he went down, all the Sox lost is a backup. Yes, Arroyo would help the team, but I don't think what his pitching ability is capable of in the AL East superscedes what WMP has already provided.

 

Also, Arroyo is in the National League, and in a much easier division than the AL East, the Cardinals and Stros have been sub-par, and the besides them and teh Breweres there aren't teams that can even come close to friggin' Tampa. And the auto-out in th 9th spot has also got to be helping Arroyo's ERA, which is coming back down to earth. So he wouldn't be the same pitcher if he were back here.

On anotehr note, the real tell-tell on if the trades a bust or not will come in the future, if Pena reaches his potential, and when Arroyo leaves his peak years, which he is in the middle of as we speak.

[TheKilo]

He's still only made 17 starts, which means we don't really know what kind of pitcher he can be. The fact that it's over 2 years is what makes him a bust, I'm not denying that.

But you can't deny that Theo made an absolute s*** trade that f***ed you guys over this season. WMP is gonna have to do alot better than those numbers to make up for what you guys lost, and recently he's just been a version 2 pavano on the DL.

 

You enjoy trolling?

 

I think as it stands right now, the WMP/Arroyo trade is somewhat of a bust. However, when the trade was made, it was when Arroyo was the longman out of the bullpen and WMP was a guy who could be a stud in the future. It was a trade fore 3 years from now. I can't really fault Theo for making that trade. Arroyo's peripherals were so awful that no one could have expected the year he'd be having. I honestly think he'd be closer to a 5.00 ERA pitcher in the AL East.

 

The fact that Arroyo can outperform his peripherals for this long is an excellent example of how weak the NL is.

 

Pavano has been an incredible bust, and there's no denying that. Definitely a bigger bust than WMP. Pena was supposed to help more in the future, Pavano was supposed to have an immediate impact.

[Cocos Disciples]

He's still only made 17 starts, which means we don't really know what kind of pitcher he can be. The fact that it's over 2 years is what makes him a bust, I'm not denying that.

But you can't deny that Theo made an absolute s*** trade that f***ed you guys over this season. WMP is gonna have to do alot better than those numbers to make up for what you guys lost, and recently he's just been a version 2 pavano on the DL.

 

Yeah, that trade has truly f***ed us up this year. 1st place in arguably the best division in baseball, probably next to the AL Central.

[Manny Goes Boom]

A bust I'm really surprised that wasn't on the list or mentioned was Russ Ortiz...given a 5 yr ( I think) Contract for ALOT of cash (I don't know the exact specs of it) and a year and a half into it the Diamondbacks pay him $20 million to go away and during the time he pitched he was along the lines of 6-27 or something garbage like that.

[Mr Crunchy]

pavanos awesome

as is jarrett wright

17,000,000.00 per year for these studs

 

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[Mr Crunchy]

anyone remember brian taylor??

[jsinger121]

anyone remember brian taylor??

 

yes...1991 first overall pick by the mfy. busted up his shoulder in a bar fight I believe and was never the same.