Odds we get Zito??

[bigpappi2004]

What do you think the odds of us getting barry zito by the deadline? I really like him and hope we can find some way to acquire him.

[RoyNHSox]

With the A’s leading their division why would they want to trade him now?

[jsinger121]

Zero...Beane won't trade him with the A's leading and he is a big time flyball pitcher who benefits from the spacious oakland coliseum. No way would I trade anything of big time value for a 3 month rental.

[bigpappi2004]

Who do you think we will get then? because it is obvious we need to make a deal for a starter.

[jsinger121]

I am in the belief the Sox will stand pat much like NY will because neither team is willing to move prospects. Right now the sox have won 8 in a row. Every team could use more starting pitching but at what cost? The market is thin and the price is high for even mediocre guys.

[yankthis]

What are the odds we could get Jeter?

 

Barry Zito? hahahahaha

[yankthis]

Or maybe we could get Jim Thome and Jose Contreras from the White Sox in exchange for Willy Moo and a couple of prospects.

[ksushi]

Trading for Barry Zito is the worst possible baseball move you could make when you're trying to build for the future. With Mulder having arm troubles, the Sox might take aim at Zito this offseason. I hope I am not alone in saying it might be about time for the sox to get it done on a contract with a quality big time pitcher this offseason. Cut losses with Clement, sign Zito. NY, LAA, and NYM's will be chasing him down as well, but if we can't match them dollar for dollar I'll eat my hand.

[Cityofchampions33]

I am in the belief the Sox will stand pat much like NY will because neither team is willing to move prospects. Right now the sox have won 8 in a row. Every team could use more starting pitching but at what cost? The market is thin and the price is high for even mediocre guys.

 

Yanks are rumored to be close to dealing Hughes for Lee from the Brewers

[jsinger121]

Yanks are rumored to be close to dealing Hughes for Lee from the Brewers

 

I will be in shock if they trade Hughes for a rental player

[a700hitter]

I am in the belief the Sox will stand pat much like NY will because neither team is willing to move prospects. Right now the sox have won 8 in a row. Every team could use more starting pitching but at what cost? The market is thin and the price is high for even mediocre guys.

It would be a mistake not to pursue Smoltz.

[jsinger121]

It would be a mistake not to pursue Smoltz.

 

It would be if the cost is ridiculous and when dealing with schurholtz it usually is. I don't believe the Braves are trading him anyways when they have a reasonably priced option of 8 million for next year on him.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

I will be in shock if they trade Hughes for a rental player

 

It is the Yankees

[Cocos Disciples]

It is very unlikely the Sox get Zito. As earlier stated, why would Oakland, who does have a history of trading contract players, trade Zito when they're in the middle of a pennant race?

[HeadOfSoxNation]

I will be in shock if they trade Hughes for a rental player

 

It may not be a rental after all. The Yanks won't pick up Sheff's option next year and could potentially trade for Lee and get an extension done by season's end. Lee would command a lot of money in the FA market...but no one is going to outbid the Yankees, and, IMO, he'd be tempted to want to stay in NY. Going from the BrewCrew to an immediate contender is quite the jump.

 

And if the Brewers do get Hughes...that's one of the best young staffs in baseball! Well, in a year or two...

[Mr Crunchy]

zito would get killed pitching in fenway for a living

[a700hitter]

It would be if the cost is ridiculous and when dealing with schurholtz it usually is. I don't believe the Braves are trading him anyways when they have a reasonably priced option of 8 million for next year on him.

You don't know if the price is ridiculous until you begin the pursuit by making an inquiry. Even if their opening price is high, a skilled negotiator might be able to reduce the cost to a reasonable level. I don't see why the Braves would want to keep a 39 year old pitcher when they will clearly be in rebuilding mode this next off-season.

[CrespoBlows]

You don't know if the price is ridiculous until you begin the pursuit by making an inquiry. Even if their opening price is high, a skilled negotiator might be able to reduce the cost to a reasonable level. I don't see why the Braves would want to keep a 39 year old pitcher when they will clearly be in rebuilding mode this next off-season.

 

That's great, except the guy you're starting in the face is John Schurholtz. Throw in the fact that he doesn't have to trade Smoltz to you, and he doesn't have to trade Smoltz at all, means you better give what he asks for.

[Mr Crunchy]

the price of poker in the smoltz lottery goes up daily

i do believe that the braves will deal him where HE wants to go

[DUSTINMOHR4LIFE]

There is no way that we get Zito during the season. You could say that we need him, but I think sacrificing a Pedroia, Lester, Ellsbury ect. would be to much for a pitcher who might fail in Fenway.

[Mr Crunchy]

that and the fact that the yankees own zito makes him a burder

[Rdsxmbnt]

Lester looks to be a mainstay in the rotation for the year, and most likely the future. If we traded Lester for a SP we'd still need a SP.

[ksushi]

I say wait and send him a contract offer this november. I don't think he will fail in fenway. I think trading for him makes no sense since he will hit free agency this winter anyway. The price tag will start with lester... no thank you.

[a700hitter]

That's great, except the guy you're starting in the face is John Schurholtz. Throw in the fact that he doesn't have to trade Smoltz to you, and he doesn't have to trade Smoltz at all, means you better give what he asks for.

Scurholtz should know that the smart move is to get value for the 39 year old pitcher now, because Smoltz will be over 40 by the time the Braves are ready to contend again. In the meantime, Smoltz could blow out an elbow. It's not like Smoltz puts fannies in the seats. The smart move is to move him, because 39 year old pitchers don't fit with rebuilding. Of course, he will try to get max value for him, that's his job, and he will get what the market will bear. Once Shuerholtz decides that he needs to move Smoltz, he will go. He may have already made that decision, but he won't tip his hand as that would negatively impact his value.

[CrespoBlows]

Scurholtz should know that the smart move is to get value for the 39 year old pitcher now, because Smoltz will be over 40 by the time the Braves are ready to contend again. In the meantime, Smoltz could blow out an elbow. It's not like Smoltz puts fannies in the seats. The smart move is to move him, because 39 year old pitchers don't fit with rebuilding. Of course, he will try to get max value for him, that's his job, and he will get what the market will bear. Once Shuerholtz decides that he needs to move Smoltz, he will go. He may have already made that decision, but he won't tip his hand as that would negatively impact his value.

 

If Smoltz is dealt, the Red Sox won't be the favorites. The upper-level of their farm system is now depleted with those prospects being in Boston. There's no way the Red Sox would trade Jon Lester, and Craig Hansen will be an impact reliever for the Red Sox for the next ten years. Plus, the Detroit Tigers would probably represent the best place for Smoltz, who owns a no-trade clause.

 

I guess the Red Sox could move Hansen and Pedroia. Though, like you said, is it worth it to trade a potential closer, and your 2007-17 2B for a guy who could blow out an elbow? There's no need to give up that much for Smoltz. The Red Sox have a pretty formidable front four. You could match those pitchers against any staff in baseball.

[MC Hammer]

It seems like every month someone makes a thread about getting Barry Zito. Can we please stop discussing this? I dont want Zito ... Theo clearly doesn't want Zito ... can we please drop it?

[a700hitter]

If Smoltz is dealt, the Red Sox won't be the favorites. The upper-level of their farm system is now depleted with those prospects being in Boston. There's no way the Red Sox would trade Jon Lester, and Craig Hansen will be an impact reliever for the Red Sox for the next ten years. Plus, the Detroit Tigers would probably represent the best place for Smoltz, who owns a no-trade clause.

 

I guess the Red Sox could move Hansen and Pedroia. Though, like you said, is it worth it to trade a potential closer, and your 2007-17 2B for a guy who could blow out an elbow? There's no need to give up that much for Smoltz. The Red Sox have a pretty formidable front four. You could match those pitchers against any staff in baseball.

If no other team wants top part with that caliber of prospect for Smoltz, the Sox might be able to get him for less. Also, don't forget that the Braves would probably like to free themselves from Smoltz's contract. They could put that $ to use in their rebuilding process. The fact is that none of us has any idea what other teams would be willing to trade for Smoltz. Assuming the other teams are not being run by complete *******s, the Sox should be able and willing to bid competitively.

[ksushi]

I don't think Theo has ever said he has no interest in Barry Zito, I think its safe to assume though that anybody that has interest in trading for Barry Zito is in the vast minority. So, really, I'd love to talk about signing him next offseason and leaving clement on the scrap heap.

[example1]

If no other team wants top part with that caliber of prospect for Smoltz, the Sox might be able to get him for less. Also, don't forget that the Braves would probably like to free themselves from Smoltz's contract. They could put that $ to use in their rebuilding process. The fact is that none of us has any idea what other teams would be willing to trade for Smoltz. Assuming the other teams are not being run by complete *******s, the Sox should be able and willing to bid competitively.

 

That's true, but ALL of us do know that the Sox are not going to overbid on Smoltz or Zito. Just about every other instance of the sox competing with other teams for players has ended with the other team paying vastly more than the sox were willing to do. I would imagine that a team like Detroit would be willing to part with a number of young players and a boatload of money to get a Rogers, Bonderman, Smoltz, Verlander (and one more) rotation. It makes more sense for a team that is not the red sox to do it.

[a700hitter]

That's true, but ALL of us do know that the Sox are not going to overbid on Smoltz or Zito. Just about every other instance of the sox competing with other teams for players has ended with the other team paying vastly more than the sox were willing to do. I would imagine that a team like Detroit would be willing to part with a number of young players and a boatload of money to get a Rogers, Bonderman, Smoltz, Verlander (and one more) rotation. It makes more sense for a team that is not the red sox to do it.

If the Detroit FO is smart, they would realize that Smoltz probably doesn't put them over the top as a favorite to win the WS. That alone might convince them not to part with too much young talent. The Tiger FO has not shown a tendency towards a win-it-now mentality. For them to part with a boat-load of young talent would be more contrary to their management philosophy than it would be for the Boston FO.