Cesar Izturis

[yankeessuck013]

http://prosportsdaily.com/mlb/mlbrumors.html

 

Looks like Red Sox are going to start discussing a trade with the Dodgers for Izturis, as soon as he comes off the DL. I'm not sure what to make of this rumor. I love Gonzo's glove but his offense is pretty poor, not to say I was expecting great things from him but I do like the idea of going after Izturis. Before the surgery Izturis was argued to be the best defensive SS and his bat is way better than Gonzalez. The only question is who would the Sox give up for him, and, it he worth the chance?

[The Monster is my Mom]

hmm, interesting. I admit I don't know much about Izturis other than he is a good defender. But if he is even a little bit better with the bat than Gonzo and we don't have to give up too much for him I say go for it. Plus the Dodgers have a surplus at SS with Furcal.

[ksushi]

Well, the going price for Lugo was Jon Lester and at least I consider Izturis to be overall a better player than him. I don't know if that is worth a slight upgrade with the bat... to me it most certainly isn't but since the whole world has given up on Lester for god knows what reason, eh maybe it happens.

[Cocos Disciples]

well, if we have to trade a top pitching prospect who figures to be in an excellent top 3 for years to come for a one year shortstop with a decent glove and a mediocre bat, i say...DO IT

[ksushi]

Please tell me that was sarcasm or I am giving up hope on Sox fans.

[kreinbihl34]

well' date=' if we have to trade a top pitching prospect who figures to be in an excellent top 3 for years to come for a one year shortstop with a decent glove and a mediocre bat, i say...DO IT[/quote']

:what:

I say you are a complete dumbass. You would trade a stud SP (lefty even) for a ok SS? If you would then you need to be taken into the woods and beaten with a stick.

 

The ONLY way we give up Lester is for Willis. That's the limit. Without Willis involved in a Lester trade, I really don't want to hear it. Also if I have to hear another dumbass like this one I might just snap. No Willis, then we have Lester, THAT'S IT.

 

Edit: Typo

[Cocos Disciples]

:what:

I say you are a complete dumbass. You wouls trade a stud for a ok SS? If you would then you need to be taken into the woods and beaten with a stick.

 

The ONLY way we give up Lester is for Willis. That's the limit. Without Willis involved in a Lester trade, I really don't want to hear it. Also if I have to hear another dumbass like this one I might just snap. No Willis, then we have Lester, THAT'S IT.

 

dude...sarcasm

[Cocos Disciples]

read the bolds

well' date=' if we have to trade a [b']top pitching prospect who figures to be in an excellent top 3 for years to come[/b] for a one year shortstop with a decent glove and a mediocre bat, i say...DO IT

[kreinbihl34]

dude...sarcasm

 

Since you have been here you have said some stuid s***. When I read different posters I know what they mean. With you anything is possible

[Cocos Disciples]

Since you have been here you have said some stuid s***. When I read different posters I know what they mean. With you anything is possible

 

what else have i said thats difficult to understand?

[schillingouttheks]

Since you have been here you have said some stuid s***. When I read different posters I know what they mean. With you anything is possible

Actually, he's one of the few new posters that's been understandable. You seem to jump on people quite easily, and don't have a very good sarcasm detector.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

If we were going to upgrade the SS position it would need to be more dramatic than Izturis. I know Gonzalez hasn't done much thus far with his bat but Izturis is nothing special either.

 

A lot of us are forgetting Dustin Pedroia and he will get his chance at some point this season if we still have issues. The young guys need a chance to play at some point and he could really show something.

[MC Hammer]

It all depends on what we have to give up for him. While Cesar isn't a great upgrade he is a player who has yet to come into his prime, while AGon is actually in the 2nd year of his prime and has yet to show any significant increase in skills, and actually showed a dramatic drop off in the first year of his prime.

 

Don't get me wrong I'm fine with AGon, but if we can get Cesar on the cheap, I'd at least consider it.

[Jeff04]

If we were going to upgrade the SS position it would need to be more dramatic than Izturis. I know Gonzalez hasn't done much thus far with his bat but Izturis is nothing special either.

 

A lot of us are forgetting Dustin Pedroia and he will get his chance at some point this season if we still have issues. The young guys need a chance to play at some point and he could really show something.

 

I agree, i think that if we really want to change the shortstop position around, then it should be better than izturis. We can't deal with the crappy bat forever, eventually we are going to have to get some hitting out of gonzo, or i say we just go out and get someone who can hit and hit well!

[ksushi]

Defense is and will be the priority at short. I think the sox will opt to go with Cora before they go out and sacrifice defense for a bat.

[kreinbihl34]

Actually, he's one of the few new posters that's been understandable. You seem to jump on people quite easily, and don't have a very good sarcasm detector.

 

My bad

[Beckett95]

article about Izturis and possibly going to the Sox...

 

It is apparent that Dodgers shortstop Cesar Izturis is available, as the Dodgers don't have an opening for him at shortstop. I would think that the overall health/performance shakiness of the entire infield would be enough for L.A. to keep Izturis around as a backup all season.

 

But the rumors persist, the main one being that the Red Sox are interested. I have to wonder why. The team already has a slick-fielding, walk-allergic shortstop, and his name is Alex Gonzalez. I admit, Gonzalez had a terrible April with the bat. But he's had similar months in his career, so why not see if he can shake it off and hit his usual .240 with decent pop? That's all that was expected in the first place.

 

Now, if the Red Sox were jonesing to acquire, say, Julio Lugo, I'd understand. A healthy Lugo would be worth a good three wins in the standings compared to Gonzo. But Cesar Izturis is a .261/.295/.338 career hitter, and he's signed through 2007. Even if Gonzalez tanks and Izturis is himself, the team's gain is minimal. The Dodgers are going to want something decent in return for Izturis, so why bother? They already gave up something decent to reacquire Tim Wakefield's personal catcher.

[ksushi]

Totally agree with that article. I hope they either keep Gonzo or go to Cora. At this point I see no reason to ditch Gonzo.

[a700hitter]

Totally agree with that article. I hope they either keep Gonzo or go to Cora. At this point I see no reason to ditch Gonzo.

Cora is not the kind of fielder that AGon is. I'd rather dump Cora and promote Pedroia.

[ksushi]

Cora is quite the fielder. And Pedroia has gotten fat and is hitting .250

[rician blast]

Defense is and will be the priority at short. I think the sox will opt to go with Cora before they go out and sacrifice defense for a bat.

 

I'd have been happy if AGonz woulda successfully dropped the bunt down last night instead of slapping away at the ball. Jeeezus H. if my kid did that on his team he'd get screamed at.

 

Learn to fkn bunt .