Wells wants out

Soxfan1 · October 10, 2005

The heralds bryant reports wells is going to schedule a meeting with GM theo epstien to inquire about getting traded.

riverside sluggers · October 10, 2005

link?

Soxfan1 · October 10, 2005

I'm not subscribed so I can't get one.

riverside sluggers · October 10, 2005

oh alright, still this would be big news if indeed happened

Pinstripe_Pride · October 10, 2005

Not really surprising in my opinion.

Sox fan in Tex · October 10, 2005

I'm searching the Herald's website right now and I can't find anything.

yankeessuck013 · October 10, 2005

I'm searching the Herald's website right now and I can't find anything.

same here, I looked all around......nothing.

Soxfan1 · October 10, 2005

It's todays edition. Run out to the stands and its on the front sports page?

Soxfan1 · October 10, 2005

my god. 1 minute to find it guys.

http://sports.bostonherald.com/sportsColumnists/view.bg?articleid=106356

SchillingIsTheNatural · October 10, 2005

I think this is good news. I don't mind David Wells but at 42 he is not the answer. If we could get anything for a 42 year old pitcher I say...AWESOME. I was hoping circumstances would arise where pitchers wouldn't work out and clear room for others since we have all of them under contract.

jimmycarter05 · October 10, 2005

i dont like wells leaving at all...he was great in the season, great against the yankees, and great for that one game in the playoffs, i hope he plays one more year for us

Soxfan1 · October 10, 2005

Anybody over .500 is ok in my book.

ClayBuchholzIsDaFuture · October 10, 2005

Can somebody post the whole article please?

SchillingIsTheNatural · October 11, 2005

Anybody over .500 is ok in my book.

Most pitchers who play for the Red Sox are over .500 cause of the run support we provide. I guess its just back to the question from last year...can we find a replacement for Pedro and can we get Schilling healthy. If that happens then we have a dominating rotation...cause then you are talking about Wells, Wakefield, Clement, Papelbon, Arroyo, Miller fighting for the other three spots. Considering only half of them make the rotation I would say Wakefield, Wells, Papelbon....but that leaves out Clement, Arroyo, and Miller. So we have a numbers problem and guys need to be traded, added to the bullpen, or retire. I would like to have 6 starters as we did this year cause it gives good depth for injuries.

ARod2212 · October 11, 2005

Wright for Boomer, deal?

26 to 6 · October 11, 2005

Wright for Boomer, deal?

I would sign for that in a f***in half a heartbeat..unless Wright agrees to work out of the pen for us, despite the big contract I think he has the perfect bullpen arm.

ORS · October 11, 2005

Wright for Boomer, deal?

Sure, but I'm sure it's been a while since Berman played any ball. Oh, you meant Wells, fahgedaboudit.

stevece80 · October 13, 2005

He's talking about George Scott. I wouldn't mind a first baseman. He can pick it, and can hit a bit.

MC Hammer · October 13, 2005

Wright for Boomer, deal?

What do you think we are ... that Pirates!?

SchillingIsTheNatural · November 4, 2005

How about trying to get Freddy Guzman away from the Padres for David Wells????

He is a young speedster who wouldn't play everyday BUT...he could be the missing link late in games if we need a stolen base. He tore up the minors with his OBP. He is also a switch hitter.

stevece80 · November 5, 2005

Well, considering Guzman didn't play this season, I doubt you can count on him, though the nature of his injury shouldn't slow him too much. If this team "needs" a speedy young outfield for steals late in games, why wouldn't you just keep Wells and rely on Stern to do so? Why give up a talented pitcher for some hypothetical situation that would probably net a couple of runs over the course of 162 games? If you "need" that sort of guy, why not just sign a Donnie Sadler type for the cost of a contract?

Stern is free, is already here, and doesn't cost David Wells to have on the team. I frankly think it doesn't make any sense at all to trade a productive starting pitcher for a bench player that will have minimal impact now, or in the future. The only scenario in which Wells should be traded is if the Red Sox get fair value.

Trading Wells for a spare part smacks of making a trade for the sake of making a trade. There's nothing that says he has to be traded.

Ray10 · November 5, 2005

Been hearing for awhile now that Wells wants to be traded to the West Coast so no surprise.

SchillingIsTheNatural · November 6, 2005

Well, considering Guzman didn't play this season, I doubt you can count on him, though the nature of his injury shouldn't slow him too much. If this team "needs" a speedy young outfield for steals late in games, why wouldn't you just keep Wells and rely on Stern to do so? Why give up a talented pitcher for some hypothetical situation that would probably net a couple of runs over the course of 162 games? If you "need" that sort of guy, why not just sign a Donnie Sadler type for the cost of a contract?

Stern is free, is already here, and doesn't cost David Wells to have on the team. I frankly think it doesn't make any sense at all to trade a productive starting pitcher for a bench player that will have minimal impact now, or in the future. The only scenario in which Wells should be traded is if the Red Sox get fair value.

Trading Wells for a spare part smacks of making a trade for the sake of making a trade. There's nothing that says he has to be traded.

The issue is that David Wells will either get traded or retire. So any hopes you have of David Wells playing for Boston next season...forget about it. They have a few pitchers on San Diego we could make a trade for OR we could invest in a young player like Guzman who at first would have to fill that roll of speedy base stealer. If you want to compare the potential talent of Adam Stern to Freddy Guzman you are making a mistake. Guzman is one of there top prospects for San Diego and although he wouldn't be an everyday player for us...that does not mean down the road he wont be. The Red Sox do not have a lot of young talent in the OF position and we could use more. Too many Red Sox fans look on a one year basis such as you are doing. Saying Guzman is not worth it cause he only nets a few runs shows you are not looking beyond this next season. Trading a 42 year old for a early 20s guy with talent seems like a no brainer to me. This kid could end up being the lead off guy for the Red Sox for years.

stevece80 · November 6, 2005

Wells won't retire if he's not traded. You don't trade a quality starter for crap. Wells can make these sorts of statements in an attempt to expedite the process of getting traded, but there's no chance he's going to turn down guaranteed money.

stevece80 · November 6, 2005

And secondly, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. And for what it's worth, there's no such position as "speedy base stealer". There's a defined role called "major league starting pitcher", which David Wells is for the Boston Red Sox until he's traded. I hope they get actual talent, not some player who happens to be young and would have no future role whatsoever in the future plans of the Boston Red Sox. You need to get Dave Roberts off the brain and realize that having a basestealer on the bench is overrated to say the least.

I'm well aware of what is in the Red Sox system, and the relative lack of OF prospects, but Guzman doesn't solve that just because he plays CF. You don't give up talent for someone who doesn't make the team better. The only way Guzman makes the team better is if he's the starting CF, and I see no indication that he could step in and do so next season.

SchillingIsTheNatural · November 6, 2005

And secondly, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. And for what it's worth, there's no such position as "speedy base stealer". There's a defined role called "major league starting pitcher", which David Wells is for the Boston Red Sox until he's traded. I hope they get actual talent, not some player who happens to be young and would have no future role whatsoever in the future plans of the Boston Red Sox. You need to get Dave Roberts off the brain and realize that having a basestealer on the bench is overrated to say the least.

I'm well aware of what is in the Red Sox system, and the relative lack of OF prospects, but Guzman doesn't solve that just because he plays CF. You don't give up talent for someone who doesn't make the team better. The only way Guzman makes the team better is if he's the starting CF, and I see no indication that he could step in and do so next season.

So you are telling me instead of gaining a young talented prospect ranked as the San Diego Padres #2 top prospect on baseball america for a 42 year old pitcher you would not do it?????

I don't have Dave Roberts on the brain...I have "finding a replacement for JD" on the brain. This kid has talent...hits the ball well and is very fast...he is a switch hitter. We don't need David Wells. As it is we have too many starting pitchers. He wants to be traded to the SD Padres and they have expressed interest so we need to come up with a trade. If you have another idea in making a deal with the Padres then lets hear it...stop thinking David Well will be back. The Red Sox are going to bring in the young guys and Jonathan Papelbon will take Wells spot this season in the rotation. When Schilling or Wakefield move on Lester and Sanchez will take there spots. David Well is 42 years old....enough is enough with the old players get some young blood in.

As for Freddy Guzman you haven't seen anything from the kid have you??? The guy can fly and he hits a good average.....you are judging him based on the fact he is a young player who hasn't done anything 'YET'...you would just assume get the old farts who have been around the league a long time who had success at some point. I want the young guys who will be future stars.

I'm having the same argument with people who hate the deal for Manny Ramirez.....what happens if we move Manny for someone like Ervin Santana??? What happens is Ervin becomes the next Roy Halladay or Johan Santana or Mark Prior??? Freddy Guzman may be the next Jimmy Rollins....you think we can trade David Wells for Jimmy Rollins?? Dream on but if you get him before he brings out his full potential...then you just came out on top although at first sight you may not have thought so.

Soxfan1 · November 6, 2005

And secondly, don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. And for what it's worth, there's no such position as "speedy base stealer". There's a defined role called "major league starting pitcher", which David Wells is for the Boston Red Sox until he's traded. I hope they get actual talent, not some player who happens to be young and would have no future role whatsoever in the future plans of the Boston Red Sox. You need to get Dave Roberts off the brain and realize that having a basestealer on the bench is overrated to say the least.

I'm well aware of what is in the Red Sox system, and the relative lack of OF prospects, but Guzman doesn't solve that just because he plays CF. You don't give up talent for someone who doesn't make the team better. The only way Guzman makes the team better is if he's the starting CF, and I see no indication that he could step in and do so next season.

Just edit next time instead of double posting.

riverside sluggers · November 6, 2005

David Wells on board for 2006 is risky somewhat, dont forget his knees are starting to get banged up. a surgery this offseason might just be a minor fix with the age that he is.

if the Sox do indeed start up a trade with the Angels that includes Ervin Santana, this rotation will be sure to orchestrate the season in the right direction

Curt Schilling

Tim Wakefield

Jonathan Papelbon

Matt Clement

Ervin Santana

Beckett95 · November 23, 2005

http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=11 (its on page 2)

Wells to S.D. for Roberts and Otsuka

That would be a very good trade giving the Sox more speed and more bullpen help

Schilling

Beckett

Wakefield

Clement

Papelbon

Soxfan1 · November 23, 2005

I agree Beckett, having Roberts here would replace Roberts presence and tsuka can help the beginnign of the bullpen healing process.

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