Are the yankees out of the race?

[yankeessuck013]

The damage is done and I have stated this before the Yankees went on their temporary tear .. playing .800 ball in 2 weeks...

 

i think they are done.. it's over for them and they can't overcome this.. the damage has been done.. they are drained physically and emotionally...

 

The Yankee team of 1978 had a lot of heart and Bucky F' ING Dent.

This team has too many I's in it. I don't see it happening. They have imploded. RIP

 

nowhere to go but down from here for the MFY's

 

life is good

[Sizzlin22]

What moron voted that they would win the East?

[soxie thefangirl]

I voted they could win the wild card. I could see it happening.

[YanksHater213]

No way they continue to play this bad, but theyll definitely have some good competition between Texas, Anaheim, Baltimore, New York, and Minnesota, as they all could win the Wild Card. The way I see it, 3 very good teams wont be making the playoffs.

 

EDIT: I dont have a vote yet, but its between the last 2 options.

[yeszir]

They're the Yankees, they're never out of it. Deep pockets could help them make a run closer to the trade deadline.

[yankeessuck013]

just watchin the yankees postgame and Jim Kaat said that he believed that this slump may last for the rest of the season....hmmmm interesting

[Sox fan in Tex]

Everyone realizes they are the Yankees, but you have to acknowledge just how many teams out there in the AL are better than New York. So there goes their AL Wild Card chances. Then as far as the AL East goes, that maybe their only shot... they could start winning some games and pull a little closer, but when it comes down to it I don't think they are capable of beating Boston or Baltimore. "No..they're done...I hope they suck just as bad in 2006".

[yankeessuck013]

Even if they do make some sort of push it will be too little too late... the Twins are ripe for the WC this year as the Chi Sox look VERY real...

 

once Schilling comes back all will be well and I fully expect the Red Sox the run away with the division...

 

Toronto will be a pain in our collective ass this year though IMO... spoiler type..

 

The only 2 teams with a better record than the red sox are the chi sox and the cards. And the MFY are now 0.500.* That is going to make hitting 110 wins very difficult....they will not win 90

[elsrbueno]

I voted wild card because I just can't see the Yankees going quietly. Baltimore is the team that really looks like they're falling apart, as they just can't stay healthy this season.

 

The way the Red Sox have been playing (Especially without Schilling and with a horrible bullpen) makes me believe they've got the best chance at winning the division. Minnesota and Texas have the best chances to challenge the Yankees for the Wild Card, but without another starter I see Texas faltering late like last season. That leaves the race between the Twins and Yankees, and it should be close. If I had to pick a Wild Card favorite today I'd take Minnesota, but I just can't count out the Yankees until they're 10 games back with 9 to play....

[Irish Jay]

I would never count the Yankees out of it....they have a great lineup and even though their pitching has been suspect they still can get white hot at any given time. Jeter will always be a very clutch player and they are always capable of rattling off 8 or 9 straight.

[soxie thefangirl]

But they can't seem to put it all together. Everything's there, it's just not working for them I think.

[element1151]

87 Games to go and the Yanks are at .507 (38-37). If they went 54-33 from here to the end of the season, not probable at .621 percentage; but they would still likely be short of qualifying for a wildcard spot at 92 Wins.

[Sizzlin22]

But they can't seem to put it all together. Everything's there, it's just not working for them I think.

Everything is not there that's the problem on paper they look good but in reality they are not. Example we look on paper at Bernie and say that looks good, but in reality he's over the hill. Thier rotation has been battered around all year. People say deep pockets go far, only in the off season who are they going to trade? Giambi? Not even if they eat 80% of that contract. Trade Wang and Duncan for Kotsay? Fine trade thier future for a sub par to barely par hitter with good defense for a half a year I'm perfectly fine with that. The Yankees are done, cooked, roasted. I said 86 wins in the first week of the season and I stand by that.

[Gambit]

But they can't seem to put it all together. Everything's there, it's just not working for them I think.

They said the same thing about the sox last year... we were 10 1/2 back from the Yankees and had a real shot at the division last year.

 

The first mistake in any competition, be it sports or war... is UNDERestimating your enemy. The moment you start taking anything for granted, assuming somebody is out of it, or planning based on assumptions, your world gets tossed upside down.

 

Matt

[26 to 6]

i dont see why all of you think the Yanks are done (most of you i should say). I think they can, and will come back. And im not just talking a comeback for the wild card, im talking the division. face it, the Sox cant play great ball ALL SEASON, and the O's are headed south for the summer..nowhere for the Yankees to go but up, and lets not forget how far you guys were back last August, but still made a push for the division (eventually being stuck with the wild card again, but a pretty good push i must say)...we have more time and less of a deficit, this season is far from over as is this division race...the Empire WILL Strike Back.

 

[Sox fan in Tex]

Looking back now, I really don't know where I stand on this. I really don't want to look back on history to determine this year because that would point directly to the Yankees winning the division. Maybe I shouldn't say they're out of it RIGHT NOW, but until they prove something to me this year, I still don't think they will win the division.

[Lightsout42]

We can't say what's going to happen. Although, I do hope the Yankees do pull it off and make the playoffs. All I can say right now is that it's going to be a very exciting summer for both of these teams and their fans.

[JeterWifey213]

http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/49097.htm

 

Something to read......

[Sox fan in Tex]

You have to have a log in for the Post, JeterWifey213

[JeterWifey213]

so log in, that way you have more material to bash us!

[Sizzlin22]

Why don't you just copy and paste?

[See Red]

i dont see why all of you think the Yanks are done (most of you i should say). I think they can, and will come back. And im not just talking a comeback for the wild card, im talking the division. face it, the Sox cant play great ball ALL SEASON, and the O's are headed south for the summer..nowhere for the Yankees to go but up, and lets not forget how far you guys were back last August, but still made a push for the division (eventually being stuck with the wild card again, but a pretty good push i must say)...we have more time and less of a deficit, this season is far from over as is this division race...the Empire WILL Strike Back.

 

 

You say the Red Sox can't play great ball all-season like you actually believe they've played great ball all season. This team is, I believe, 3 games behind their pace from last year and if this August is anywhere near as good as last, the Yankees don't have a prayer. Not to mention, the Red Sox are just now beginning to play their best ball and STILL lead the division. Face it, the rest of the AL East can improve. The Red Sox can improve their bullpen -- how, without sacrificing what little future they have, can the Yankees improve? As long as George is making the decisions rather than the baseball people underwhich the World Series teams were built, get used to being in the middle portion of the AL East standings.

[Sizzlin22]

The fact that the Red Sox have done this without Curt Schilling, and the fact that he's coming back soon pretty much closes the door on the rest of the AL East, naturally this is all barring injury.

[riverside sluggers]

actually compared to last year, our record had stood at like 43 - 34, so two games ahead of the pace set last year. july is gonna be a more exciting month, moreso than june cuz all we had faced were interleague teams really. does anybody know when the delayed game of the yanks/orioles will be?

[elsrbueno]

The Yankees will make changes. The one thing they have that other clubs don't is the ability to take on salary. This gives them the power to get big-money players despite their lack of talent. Granted, I don't see many salary-dump options out there right now, so it will be interesting to monitor exactly what happens.

 

If the Yankees improve their outfield defense, that will go a long way towards making the pitching staff look better. Maybe I'm just scarred from all of the Yankee comebacks, but They're not far out of the race and I can easily see them getting hot and putting themselves right back in the race. Yes, the Red Sox will be an improved team after the All Star break even if they don't make any deals (with Schilling coming back) but the Yankees are only 6 games out despite getting poor performances from Johnson, Mussina, and Pavano so far, and if those guys turn it around they could make it interesting. Zenny's stats are convincing, but I just can't count these guys out.

[riverside sluggers]

yea they used their checkbooks to acquire pavano and johnson, tell me has that helped them any??? pavano last year only had allowed 16 homeruns, already has given up 17. sox took him down in that 17 - 1 defeat at the yankees home. He even leads the majors in hist allowedd, which is so far up to 129. and johnson, he has these spurts of the dominance, and then the lowly d-rays will come into town and he reamian on the mound for just the first three innings. think they should consider bernie williams on the team, routine flyballs are skippin out of his glove like butter, never mind his hitting this year. make a trade offer to the A's for kotsay, bernie williams and some of their prospects with cash considerations also.

[Sizzlin22]

Can't say I didn't see the Pavano blow up coming. His K/9 ratio is so low, god knows that wouldn't last in the AL.

[JeterWifey213]

Here is the article, its kinda old.......

 

 

June 28, 2005 -- BALTIMORE — The Yankees cannot be written off, because no one has taken the time or the effort to write them off just yet. It may be to the rest of the division's everlasting regret that no one stepped on a pinstriped neck while the chance was there.

The Orioles looked capable for a while, until their best players started spending more time on the DL than in the batting order, until the losses started coming in bunches. Now, the Birds look certain to keep tumbling until they reach fourth place with a thud. If the Yankees want to know just how bad they looked the last week, all they needed to do was watch the Orioles fumble away last night's 6-4 game. The O's look like nine kinds of done.

 

The Red Sox? They own position A in the East now, but they had to win 12 out of 13 just to get themselves there. Maybe they can keep that pace up. Or maybe they're overdue for a stint in the deep freeze. Maybe last night's drubbing by the 7-0 Guardians is the start of their run of banana peels.

 

And if so, they will hear footsteps any second now. As unbelievable as that sounds.

 

The Yankees have been equal parts riddle and enigma all year. They've been awful a lot and unwatchable even more, yet now they sit but 51/2 games behind the Red Sox, only three behind the June-swooning Orioles.

 

"It's almost like they're trying to give it to us," Gary Sheffield said yesterday, a few hours before first pitch. "Eventually, we have to figure that out and take advantage of it, right?"

 

For all their woes and all their weariness, the Yankees must understand their great good fortune. They could be buried in the East with the 38-37 record they brought into the week. A 38-37 record after 75 games a year ago would have put them 11 games out of first. A 38-37 record in, say, 1998, would have left them gasping and spitting dust, some 17 games back.

 

The Yankees were the ones setting the pace in those years, so you could say the best thing about this season, if you're the Yankees, is that you aren't chasing the Yankees, or any team that's even remotely trying to act like the Yankees.

 

"We're fortunate," Joe Torre said. "In some divisions, you play one game over .500 and you need binoculars to see first place. In some years, you could go 38-37 and wonder if you're ever going to play a meaningful game again."

 

The Yankees have another game with the Orioles tonight, but that's really just a footnote to the bigger proceedings at hand. George Steinbrenner has summoned all his chief lieutenants for a sit-down in Tampa, and there they will try very hard not to be fooled by what the Yankees have done the past two nights.

 

This really is a flashpoint of this season. These meetings need to be productive, free of panic and impulse, because the East really is there for the Yankees to steal. It shouldn't be. Someone should have run away and hidden by now. No one has. The Yankees need to formulate a game plan for the season's final three months based in logic and sound baseball reasoning.

 

No kneejerks allowed, even if Steinbrenner is acting feisty again, railing about various umpiring crimes and misdemeanors, wondering in statements whether his players want to win as badly as he still does, a ploy culled straight out of 1982.

 

Yes, somehow, this is a season with some vitality left in it. In the fabled season of 1978, the Yankees were 43-32 after 75 games — five full games better than this year's edition — and woke up the morning of July 1 nine games behind the Red Sox.

 

They overcame that. These Yankees can do that. Anyone who believes the Yankees are as dead, literally, as they've looked metaphorically the past few weeks is fooling themselves. In other years, they may be right. In this year, it's Gary Sheffield who's right.

 

It really does seem like everyone else is trying to give it to them.

[ARod2212]

Ah a whole 4 games out of 1st, and still being written off. Like I said, the Yankees will win the East, en route to the World Series title. They could be in first by the All Star Game, and if not, guess what the schedule says right after. Neck and neck quite soon folks, be prepared.

[riverside sluggers]

omfg, i hate how i keep hearing 1978 1978 1978, that is just a sports analysts "opinions", i was watching a game earlier in june where the espn announcers called red sox shots making it to the playoffs not likely, and now sittin pretty 4 games above 2nd place baltimore... im just lookin the season as one game at a time