Alex Bregman Officially Opts Out

Pass!  Let someone else have him, 

Baseball America is predicting Alex Bregman — 6 years, $180 million. Um - no. 

11 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

He's not getting that.

I'm less sure, but as long as it's not from us, I'm good.

Im not sure the dude can really even run anymore.

This is why I want schwarber

Bregman - will get more money and years because he plays defense, but he never really looked healthy to me last year, outside of the beginning and certainly never looked "spry".  The Bregman that ended last year felt like an old man and we're talking 6 years at big money?  Declining defense, declining durability, solid bat

Alonso - I think will get 6-7 years like Bregman , again because he plays 1b - but not well. And yes, sorry, I do think that Masa would be better (defensively). Thats a low bar. Aging, the fact that he plays a bad 1b (anybody can play a bad 1b) means nothing to me, solid bat

Schwarber - considerably better bat than the above 2. Because he doesnt play defense (but would prob be just as good as ALonso if he did and Breg is prob a 1b 10% into his next contract lol) - I think thats going to suppress his value and keep him at 3-4 years. I see him as reasonable because I think other GMs are foolishly scared off by the DH.

Give me an elite bat at 3-4 years who is a DH over guys who are better suited to be DHs but are forced into the field, who dont have elite bats, at 6-7 years.

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

This is why I want schwarber

Bregman - will get more money and years because he plays defense, but he never really looked healthy to me last year, outside of the beginning and certainly never looked "spry".  The Bregman that ended last year felt like an old man and we're talking 6 years at big money?  Declining defense, declining durability, solid bat

Alonso - I think will get 6-7 years like Bregman , again because he plays 1b - but not well. And yes, sorry, I do think that Masa would be better (defensively). Thats a low bar. Aging, the fact that he plays a bad 1b (anybody can play a bad 1b) means nothing to me, solid bat

Schwarber - considerably better bat than the above 2. Because he doesnt play defense (but would prob be just as good as ALonso if he did and Breg is prob a 1b 10% into his next contract lol) - I think thats going to suppress his value and keep him at 3-4 years. I see him as reasonable because I think other GMs are foolishly scared off by the DH.

Not that I disagree, but what do we do with Masa then? Just a sunk $18m cost for the next two years? Try and trade him and eat just half? 

I don't think we can have Schwarber and Masa on this team, not for two years. 

I also think DD will be coming hard for him. 

Just now, Hitch said:

Not that I disagree, but what do we do with Masa then? Just a sunk $18m cost for the next two years? Try and trade him and eat just half? 

I don't think we can have Schwarber and Masa on this team, not for two years. 

I also think DD will be coming hard for him. 

I teach him how to play 1b and think (unfortunately) Casas is back in May and hurt by June.  Masa/Romy are your 1b platoon.

1 minute ago, drewski6 said:

I teach him how to play 1b and think (unfortunately) Casas is back in May and hurt by June.  Masa/Romy are your 1b platoon.

I don't see it, but maybe...

I would certainly like Schwarber, but it's an imperfect fit unless Bres can swing his magic trade wand. 

18m x 2 yrs = 36m

shwarber will get 110m, alonso will get 160m. ALonso is an inferior hitter.

Spending an extra 50m to get an inferior hitter so we can keep masa at DH due to his contract feels like "chasing bad money with good money"

If alonso/schwarber expected contracts at close, that could alter things for me.  But I dont want to pay 2x for alonso when we can get schwarber at half the cost because "DH is locked down"

Id rather just teach masa first base. I know hes not the ideal body for it, but the difference between alonso and masa at 1b from a defensive runs saved, I dont think its a deal breaker. Sure Alonsos reach going to create a couple outs but yoshida might make a few plays that alonso cant once he has some practice.

 

12 minutes ago, drewski6 said:

18m x 2 yrs = 36m

shwarber will get 110m, alonso will get 160m. ALonso is an inferior hitter.

Spending an extra 50m to get an inferior hitter so we can keep masa at DH due to his contract feels like "chasing bad money with good money"

If alonso/schwarber expected contracts at close, that could alter things for me.  But I dont want to pay 2x for alonso when we can get schwarber at half the cost because "DH is locked down"

Id rather just teach masa first base. I know hes not the ideal body for it, but the difference between alonso and masa at 1b from a defensive runs saved, I dont think its a deal breaker. Sure Alonsos reach going to create a couple outs but yoshida might make a few plays that alonso cant once he has some practice.

 

Really hard to judge. We KNOW that Alonso can play 1st, if not to a great level, but we have no idea what the other two will offer there - Schwarber was dreadful in his small sample size.

Also, they seem to really value flexibility at DH. 

But, I'm certainly not against Schwarber. And I really like him as a person/clubhouse guy.