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Because they had much better hitters than we had, and despite whatever happened in the reg season....the hitters were raking in the playoffs.....we dont have the personnel.

as the gentleman from utah implies: scared money dont make money

thats the only path i see to making this team watchable by 2028.

Maybe if we promise to make cora cbo, cora will accept if he gets to tell breslow himself that breslow is out and hes got his office now. What are you doing in my office? What are YOU doing in MY office? Huh? What? Breslow calls security Security escorts Breslow out

But it was Vlad and Bo powering them through the playoffs, so you wanna talk about getting to the ws (playoff success) , lets talk about if they were a team of noodle bats in the playoffs.....And htey were not Bro, there is no amount of relief pitching that would have this iteration of the red sox in a great position. Maybe in a spot where we could maybe compete for a playoff spot but thats jsut becasue of a terrible al. I will acknowledge that a balanced team isnt awful, but the red sox built a pitching juggernaut with 8 great starters thats why weve had 3 big pitching injuries and are still first in the AL in pitching WAR. Imagine if we lost our 2 best hitters like weve lost our 2 best starters, we wouldnt have the 3rd best hitting in the league nor would we have the top hitting in the al Breslow went all in on pitching and he should get sacked for it. Like yesterday.

The Red sox are third in the entire mlb in pitcher WAR

we relied on too much form our sophmores, and we should have gotten more hitting around them, take the pressure off them and also if they soph slump - we would have still been able to tread water in a playoff spot. Now its looking like a lost year, which is tragic because weve been building for 2026 since 2020. But I do agree you cant tear it all down and start over. Gotta keep Roman and Mayer in roles and just try to build around them and abreu and hope contreras ages like ortiz.

not that i dont disagree.

but the pitching adn defense has been good, no?

well, maybe im thinking of someone else. But they had very good hitters, maybe those who werent hitting during reg season. But guys w talent who were capable of getting hot. I dont think its fair to compare the blue jays hitting last year to ours this year, is my main point.

We need a great hitter! Yeah one who plays 3b, is right handed, is young, is cheap, and can maybe play 2b in a pinch..... Oooh, what about durbin Well he checks all the secondary boxes, but hes not really a great hitter But he checks all the other boxes and if you squint he might be a decent hitter? SIGN ME UP Thats how we wound up in this mess. You get so specific with the other boxes that you need the hitter to check that you end up compromising on the hitting ability, the one thing we shouldnt compromise on. Yes, give me 8 bats.

or dont complain cuz you are asking for more of the same. Dont complain, then ask for more of the same.

im more willing to try a strategy that didint work 20 years ago when it was a different game than a strategy that flopped this year. Yes, give me 8 good bats, but make sure maybe 5 of them are adequate dfensively....and load me up with high k pitchers. Over .... you know.....this.

you heard it from the horses mouth - theres no secret that we have built a team that is so heavily skewed towards pitching adn defense. yayyyyyyyy run prevention. breslow is a clown.

brslow made one good addition last year (Contreras). It was a D- offeseason.

Or playing Cedanne at infield or playing Contreras at Catcher or knowing that there will be an injury (and there was)....Not saying that we should have gotten both but this mentality of we need a bat that fits into these positions isnt working because there isnt a great supply of bats that are good enough whom we could acquire....So we (or at least I) dont want to start crossing guys off the list because they would require someone to move positions. Guys move around positionally every year.

I bet we have enough positional versatility to make it work. Theres also first base.

They had plenty of hitting last year. Bo was on fire in the playoffs , for example, but missed most of the year. So thats why the 27th ranked offense was better in the playoffs. This feels like a Joe Brady post (not in good faith)

3 hitters with OPS+ of 115 or better.

if thats the alien from cool borders 2, I would argue that he can put up points.

Nobody is a longterm solution at any particular postion. Dont care about where anybody plays. Keepers: Abreu: Cedanne (but will play him at 2b/ss, dont care, and think nothing of it) Guys who will be given chance after chance at lest next 2-3 years Anthony (DH) Mayer Not looking to move but will entertain offers Contreras Duran Give me a LF, I have a spot for him. GIve me a DH I have a spot for him. Give me a player who is a bat first but can field any position so/so - I can find a spot for him The problem is we keep trying to improve the offense but with conditions, and then those conditions wind up not being much of an improvement but just a positional alignment shuffle...... Liek Moon: I am willing to fix the offense! Thats why im willing to trade abreu for paredes and a lefty pen pitcher and a prospect. You know, we really need that lefty pen arm Um, you just got worse offensively. OR We need a good hitter, but he needs to play 3b and do it well. Good luck with that. We need multiple top 25 mlb hitters....and when someone gets like this, it gets too specific and too many boxes and we end up compromising on the one thing we are trying to improve....thats how we wound up talking into durbin. Give me 3 guys with OPS+ of at least 115, and ill find a spot for all 3. ANd I care 0 what position they play. Fix the offense. Not fix the offense withotu making the defense worse. Or fix the offense but while trying to be super budget efficient ("we cant get a DH cuz then we are wasting Masa's money") Fix the offense. Thtas the priority. Not fix the offense but only if....

a) Elite offense, b) working towards elite offense, c) trying to fool yourself (and others) that with enough plate discipline (walks) and pitching and d, we can maybe climb out of the gutter.

Talking averages and not specifics, lol

Our pitching is good, our defense is good, we are in last place. I saw it coming. So did many others. Now we are well into this season, and so far the results have matched expectations. There are 3 types of teams in the mlb: Teams with a top 3 offense Teams looking to improve their offense Jokes

Get 3 very good hitters, I dont care where they play.