drewski6

you cant dwell in a cliff, it isnt a cave can you meet me at "I was a cliffhanger, mvp and others were not...."

Crochet is my favorite player on the team. If we are gong to buy and sell or half-in / half-out or be content with mediocrity, we should set my favorite player free. And we should all pick second favorite teams. Im picking Arizona for secondary allegiance. Hope we dont trade Marte.

Sure. Im not saying we're def screwed at this exact point in time. I'm saying that I disagree that we shouldnt be passive about building a competetive team due to having crochet for 5 more years because we dont know he'll stay healthy and every year we waste from him (if its anything like last year) is awful. And I get that its debatable whether we wasted last year, but all of my friends who are not red sox fans (so neutral) say yes. My friend (and he played 2b for Umass) said, if you were trying....if you were half serious .... you would have at least gotten josh naylor

Why do you think that? I think they try to get St louis to eat some money on contreras and if they cant , they get like an ohearn or hoskins. Maybe someone more who can "compete" for the job vs someone who comes at a price point that reflects its THEIR job

it is drafty in here

I dont want to waste 2 of crochets 5 though. Hes unlikely to stay healthy every year for 5. Crochet blasted open the window and every year in which we arent aggressively trying to capitalize on our awesome ace is a waste. Id rather trade Crochet than half-ass any of his years. Cuz he deserves better.

Its not going to be casas. It might be someone cheapish/short-term candidate/someone else internally who they can push aside if casas re-emerges. So they may go light on a plan A because they want to give casas a shot to win it back, but no way is casas plan A Even if they sign nobody it still wont be casas as plan A It will be Romy full time before its casas/romy

Its not going to be casas. It might be someone cheapish/short-term candidate/someone else internally who they can push aside if casas re-emerges. So they may go light on a plan A because they want to give casas a shot to win it back, but no way is casas plan A Even if they sign nobody it still wont be casas as plan A It will be Romy full time before its casas/romy

Contreras?

this dude has been on fire of late if anyone hasnt noticed

Ive got not dog in this fight, but im happy to jim ross it my god, king. slobberknocker!

Moon returns serve with the tried and true im made of rubber, you're made of glue defense

YOu guys are rehashing debates from years ago, Notin has changed his pic back to what it was in 2007(ish) Im loving it guys. Im fully on board with this pretending its not 2025/2026 ANybody going to get some kenny rogers chicken, tonight?

Yes, we all know the key to financial freedom is skipping the coffee on the way to work 🙄 Propoganda santa brings you a list of reasons why its your fault that you are working your life away. No thanks.

Any going to charitable causes?

Bello, Harrison, and Soto ?

Now Im tempted to start dreaming about packages that get us Corbin Carroll and K. Marte again, but I wont because I want to spare people from never going to happen fantasy trades that involve fleecing Arizona for a player who is 0.0005% likely to be available (Carroll).

Harrison, Dobbins, and a random name off sox prospects whom I didnt know was even a person until yesterday isnt enough? You breaking my heart.

TY for giving your fan(s) what they want and bringing back the pic you had on boston.com in 2007. The passage of time sucks. Thank you for allowing me to pretend its 2007. I can now pretend both grandmothers are still with us, my dad has many good years left, my beloved basset hound is still alive, and I have hair on my head. Also, Im excited for this season. This rookie we got coming up, Dustin Pedroia, looks like he's going to really contribute this year!

We traded renteria for Andy Marte (RIP) and then flipped Andy in a package for Cocoa who is a personal favorite of mine due to his down to earth personality, willingness to throw a punch, willingness to bury the hatchet and become good friends with people who were on the receiving end of said punch (granted whiff). I dont recall how much of the value going the other way in the trade that got us Cocoa was from Andy Marte, but I think enough for me to make this post.

Ive done it. Its because of a few things. One: Starling has had a fantastic career himself, so hes likely to pop up when you google marte (i think starling is the current active leader in stolen bases). Also, ketel is a switch hitter, and im very use to seeing s marte (as in switch hitting ketel marte, which makes it even more confusing) S marte can be either Switch hitting ketel marte or Starling Marte

In summary: JH made a billion dollars literally yesterday by buying the penguins for near 1b and selling them for nearly 2b a few short years later. JH was only able to buy the penguins initially because of his red sox investment. So the extra bill profit he made off flipping the penguins (and that bill doesnt include any salaries/profit-sharing along the way from the penguins) , he would have never been able to make it without the red sox. And when you look at revenue vs payroll, which is already ugly, it doesnt even include earnings from side hustles that hes been able to accomplish due to his red sox investment , and said side hustle earnings have been significant to the tune of billions.

its harder to go from 0 ->2m than it is to go from 2m->20m. Its easy to make money when you have money. And Ill stop before I get yelled at for touching up against politics (which is hard to avoid, but im intentionally avoiding it or trying to by stopping here)

yes, but it goes beyond revenue. I know we are 22nd in revenue vs payroll, but guess what, its worse than that. Someone like henry , a legacy owner vs a new owner. Forget revenue for jsut one sec (please), Henry has a 6x growth on valuation during his tenure as principal owner. This has nothing to do with income (profit/cash into his pocket), its purely buy red sox for 700m, they are worth 4b today. Which means he could (and has) sell lets say 10% (or give it in an asset trade, which same thing) and get 400m back in assets/cash. Thats selling 10% of his investment for more than 50% of his money back. The money that Henry has made. The obscene wealth that he has amassed. Its more from just revenue. And we're not even getting into the opportunities that the red sox have blessed him with. For example, are you aware that JH made 900m (profit) this week? He bought the penguins for 900m 4 years ago, and sold them THIS week for 1.8b. How did he come up with the 900m originally (which he doubled up on). Well, when one of your assets appreciates in value from 700m to 4b you now have 6x the collateral to borrow against. You can sell a measly 10% of your stake to generate 400m. The Red Sox have given JH more than he has given us, and thats okay. My only point here is that the revenue to payroll comparisons dont tell a fraction of the story. Hes made multiple billions in valuaion increases alone and that exclues any salary/profit-share hes withdrawn, which im sure is at least another billion And Im sorry but I reject that hes smart. WEll, I reject that this is an example of intelligence, Im sure JH is smart. But this is more of an example of how easy it is to make money when you already have money