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Both. Get greedy.

Im seeing similarities between what people have said re: pitching and what ive seen this year on offense. We went into the season, 7 deep at pitching, and we still needed this dude off waivers, or this dude from the farm. I think we are just living in the era of attrition on both sides of the ball. I dont think that you can divorce the bottom third of our lineup being noodle bats (its really the bottom 6) from the injuries. Its why we have such few hitters. The era of stockpiling talent may be back. So yes, keep your guys w options in the minors just because its one more dude you can have. Hoard. This is also why I think the deadline is so important. Because youre a lot closer to the playoffs, so if someone is healthy and productive at the deadline there is a greater chance that they will be healthy and productive once playoffs roll in. You gotta add and keep adding. I dont think we should be looking at log-jams much differently than how we would view a pitching stff. You have 5 solid starters and a few intriguing minor leaguers and depth options you think are capable, but you arent freaking out because "cant have too much pitching" or "every year , we end up dipping into our 8th starter" But with offense, it doesnt seem the same. It seems 4 of'ers! One MUST go. Or two leadoff guys? One must go! I think the era of you cant have too much pitching has passed. I think we are now in the era of you cant have too much talent. Its not the age of aquarius. Its the age of attritionarious. Or something. We're gonna workshop that line, I promise.

I agree, and I manage differently in playoffs. You hold weapons back more in playoffs. E.g. maybe Hamilton might start a game in reg season due to his D, but in playoffs, you may hold him until first pinch running opportunity. You use your whole team more in playoffs. And speed is super helpful in playoffs. Especially these days.

As in the first time I saw He might have got caught up in an unfortunate "change for change's sake"

I thought he would after the first time I read that he might, but not before.

pinch running and small ball late and close in playoffs is a lot of fun. Looking forward to it. Enjoying even talking about it (no jinx, no jinx, no jinx)

Sogard might lose his place to the pinch runners Hamilton and Eaton, cuz small ball baby

I think I like the way this team looks compared to others in a postseason. Our rotation is top heavy, that helps in postseason (first bullet is stealing your bullets, admit) Second bullet also a complete jack of yours (small ball goes up, we have zee wheels, lebowski) Breggie got that playoff experience (new bullet, yay) Story may not but hes such a pro, I highly doubt that he will do anything diff cuz its postseason (what you want) Chapman is fearless (nikki bella reference only MVP will get) Duran got that intensity, which granted can go in 2 diff ways, but I think its going to help us more than hurt Maybe RA comes back We got some pitchers who batters havent seen a lot of and I think that can help

Doesnt dismiss your whole point.

Nice discovery of a secondary correlation

all good

Yup and for a minute there I was considering going my own path in placing it in the "excess" category, but Im back now.

No I meant that literally, not as in trying to drive a point. As in I literally in the last 90 minutes, I have changed my mind on whether I am happy on Tolle and Early and Dobbins as the back end of our rotation next year. Im now with Moon where Id like a FA signing. Push your 3rd starter to 4th, 4th to 5th, 5th to depth and so have you

little weed joke for ya

just pre-baked , like its 4:10pm

After the eaton fiasco, is it the same dude? one heck of a leash for a 3b coach

Id like to take back when I said that I dont need a SP this offseason to be signed.

See, I agree with you. My positions are weird I know. I have 0 beef with the current staff and I do not want to spend any money on pitching in the offseason. I love our SP. I love we resigned Chapman. I love this team. And I know that your tune hasnt changed. Mine has. I wanted pitching at the deadline, and now Im glad we didnt get it. Im very happy w Tolle and Early go-forward. But Breslow wanted more pitching too, is my only disagreement to your posts. Its very possible to me that you had a better sense of the in-house candidates then Breslow did. Because he never said or implied that he thought we didnt need more pitching (than he got). You can talk about the results, and thats fair but thats not relevant to the fact that Breslow wanted more pitching than he got. And he tried to get it and fell short. ANd I agree that its awesome that he did. But I disagree that he should get all this credit for failing even if it turned out well.

Im not sure where the allegiances are in this royal rumble. But Im ducking chair shots left and right.

I mean a WS contender, but those bats may come. A couple more would have given a bit more leeway but they may come from RA making a surprise return, or Bregman heating up, or Abreu coming back. But right now, I dont feel that we are in the conversation for champ, but Im not ruling it out.

He said "other teams have to want your players. I tried trading so many guys, guys whose name would make you (the panel) uncomfortable. But nobody really wanted our guys" It could have been more they preferred other names than our dudes had 0 value.

Breslows lack of being able to close a deal worked out probably sets up better going forward. But dont act like he was some great visionary who trusted the guys in house. Or that he had a line in the sand, and was some sage/wise GM who had a firm grasp on value. None of that is true. What is true is that Breslow couldnt do more at the deadline because he couldnt close deals. Hes just not a closer. Not as a GM, and he wasnt one as a pitcher either. I have my doubt he can close with the ladies because a silver tongue, this stiff does not have.

You and I arent even saying the same thing. You seem to believe (and apologies if I am off) that the lack of pitching talent at the deadline went ultimately unaddressed and remains an issue I think we have enough pitching to win the WS right now But what we do agree , is that Breslow himself called his own deadline a failure. And he said that it wasnt due to not wanting to overpay because he flat said he tried to overpay but nobody wants any of our players He certainly did NOT say that he trusted the guys in-house or in the system. He did not say that he wasnt willing to part with too much. He did not give the team a ringing endorsement. He just said that his hands was tied because nobody in our organization has any trade value to these other GMs. It was pouty and sour grapes. I cant trade because all the other GMs whine, whine, whine. He was defiant and emotional when he said these nutty things. But probably coming from a place of being unable to take accountability that the problem is him. Not our guys. Not him trying to get the best deal (which may have been Danny Ainges problem) not him overrating his own guys (which may have been Chaims problem). BUt his problem seems to be, to me, he just cant keep people on the phone. And it doesnt surprise me. I wouldnt want to be on the phone with him. Hes a stiff. So the deal didnt get made and we are better off for it. Because now Tolle and Early are shining

Guys, its Breslow who said he didnt get enough at the deadline. He then crossed his arms and pouted that nobody was going to give him credit for trying. He then said that he tried to trade a long list of people, a list that included names that would make fans uncomfortable. He said he was willing to part with anybody and offered sooo many names, but no other GMs had any interest in any of our players/prospects Breslows words. People are jumping for joy about the young pitching kicking butt, and I am too. But Breslow tried to do more, and offered at least some of the names that are now kicking butt. So it may have worked out for the long term, even though , I think its a short term failure (more so lack of bats than arms, I think our pitching exceeds our hitting) because I think we are really good but are 2 solid bats short of being a contender. But its not the end of the world because we are most likely going to get in, and a few bats can carry you once you are in, and even if we dont make a deep run, we are set up very well for next year But some of you are giving Breslow wayyyy too much credit. Hes a pouty panda who needs his dipey changed

Not at all what I said