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9/27 O's @ SOX 7:10PM
Old Red replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
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9/27 O's @ SOX 7:10PM
Old Red replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Boy are the O’s a young, and exciting team to watch! -
9/27 O's @ SOX 7:10PM
Old Red replied to SPLENDIDSPLINTER's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
Wacha is Whacka tonight. Middlebrooks is terrible in the both, and wondering if if was to early to take him out. -
We definitely disagree on Houck being a plus closer, and to me the jury is still out on Whitlock if he could pitch 3 out of 4 days. Don’t know if being jerked around plus the injury affected him, but he was not as lockdown as he was his first year, so he could be somewhere in between, which wouldn’t constitute a plus closer, and not a chance I want to take.
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I guess we agree mostly except the biggie to me, which is getting an established closer. Like I said before if Whitlock, or Houck goes into the rotation it changes the needs of the staff. To me the best way to go is to have an established closer, a 8th inning man, and a 7th inning man, and none of this two inning stuff that takes that pitcher away for 2-3 days after.
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I guess you missed the part where I said Pretty Much The Same BP, and you had a pretty long list, but I’ve been beating the needing a closer drum since opening day this year, and that is still my #1 priority for the BP. We can all have our thoughts, and wishes but assuming Whitlock, and Houck are healthy it would be good to know what their roles will be to make out further plans. Whitlock back to the rotation changes needs, or lack of needs in both areas.
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It seems like we have another fence that people are sitting on different sides of. A last place team, and you want to bring back pretty much the same bullpen without an established closer at that. We are really going to find out how good Bloom is this off season although I think some already know. Bloom may have to trade some of the non pitching prospects for some pitching prospects for the pen, and for the rotation too. To come back with all these same pitchers you have listed looks like another losing season to me. FA too have to be in the mix.
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He certainly didn’t look at that this year.
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I said taking care of Bogey, and Raffy first also was because you have to know how much money you are going to have to spend. I agree that depending on this rotation, and this BP are both risky business.
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You can’t just bring everyone else back, but Strahm, so it’s not we only lose Strahm. I’ve said since opening day this year that a reliable closer is needed, and I still feel that way, and to me that reliable closer is not on the team now. Yes we probably need 2 more starters too, and that’s taking a big chance that Sale will be healthy, and that is a big if. Houck, and Whitlock are coming off injuries, and who knows what Barnes will give you. I’m not counting on Schreiber to be as good next year, but if it happens great. Everyone has known all these holes were going to be there before this season even started, so filling those holes is nothing new.
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We all could, but would we, and would it look the same?
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Good article today in the Providence Journal on what’s wrong with the Red Sox. Yes Bloom’s name came up a time, or two.
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9 games under 500 with 9 games to go, so pretty simple math. Go 9-0 to get to 500. 0-9 seems more likely to me.
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Hate is to strong a word that gets used to often. I don’t hate Bloom just , because I don’t like his hire, and criticize him often. I’m with you on Bogey, and no on Correa.
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Bloom must have thought JBJ was that 1 more player. How did that work out?
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I’ll agree Barnes is better than some of Bloom’s dumpster dives, and even though the extension looked good at the time if it would have waited a little bit longer it probably wouldn’t have happened at all. Being left off the postseason roster would not have been a good a good reason to do it.
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Agree on the in-season negotiations, but to me this should have been decided last off season, and coming out with those contract offers they came out with was a step in the opposite direction.
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Sounds like a good plan to me, and like I keep saying the Bogey, and Raffy situations have to be taken care of one way, or the other, before anything else, could, or should be done. The fact that it hasn’t is not a good sign to me.
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Dropping just before the postseason starts. Maybe they should have waited a few weeks.
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We’ll said.
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I don’t know who else was out there. I wasn’t looking for someone who you would have had to have given up a top prospect for, but just someone who could play adequate D at 1B. I fully understand starting the season the way they did at 1B, but early on it was pretty clear that things weren’t working, and to me something should have been done. Not to go all in as you say, but to get someone who could at least look like a 1B, and not like someone in Little League trying out for the position. It was embarrassing to say the least.
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Didn’t Santana get traded to Seattle in June?
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Now you are hung up on being constructive. Phantom? Once again you keep clinging to no one makes a trade in May, and trade, and I guess that proves it, because Bloom didn’t. I guess Bloom just isn’t as good as you think he is.
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Once again worrying so much about the future that may never turn out to be good for taking care of the here, and now. You are under the assumption that Bloom even tried to get. 1B, and I’m under the assumption he did not. Who knows who is right, but the fact is nothing was done, and the 2022 Team suffered, because of it.
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So you are still sticking to the assumption that Bloom could not have gotten anyone? I’m sticking to the assumption that he could have, and should have, and didn’t. We seem to be at an impasse again, and something that has been beaten to death already, so once again let’s move on to 2023, because 2022 for all intense, and purposes is dead, and gone.