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Don't worry about it. All of us have minority opinions because each of our opinions are uniquely our own. I don't love the way Bloom works, but I love the direction this team is heading. I hate that Betts is gone, love that Price is gone, really like Verdugo, liked Beni, and loathe the idea that we may have to go through the same crap with Bogaerts and Devers soon. I haven't been thrilled with any of the pitchers Bloom has signed, but most of the free agents I wanted a year ago were total flops. I thank Renfroe for his contributions, but he was overrated by some fans. His home run power and strikeouts are replaceable. Taking back Bradley's contract is merely the cost of getting two decent prospects. I don't mind JBJ on the roster because I always appreciate good defense, and it's really hard to win with bad D. -
This seems to be the part a lot of fans can't grasp today: Bloom exchanged Renfroe for Bradley -- and two other players; he did not replace Renfroe with Bradley. Yes, they're both outfielders, but JBJ may not even start, and probably not in RF, especially since Bloom just said how rare it is to have a good CFer. I personally had a lot bigger problem with the Franchy trade, because they actually tried to play him in the spot vacated by Benintendi... and Cordero was never good at hitting or fielding. But even that deal was more about the additional minor leaguers acquired, and hopefully we'll see Winckowski contributing on the mound soon.
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Do you honestly think anyone here or anywhere has said JBJ is a good MLB hitter? If so, please post the quote. The facts are he hit .283 in '20 and .163 in '21. He's a .230 lifetime hitter, which is almost exactly in between; Renfroe's a career .237 hitter. The Sox team batting average just got 7/1000th worse...
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And of course in your time as a baseball batter, I'm sure you immediately ripped ropes off every professional pitcher the first time you ever faced them, and never had to adjust to release points, deliveries and repertoires of stuff you've never seen before.
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So does Bloom eat the gummies or just sprinkle it on his buckwheat pancakes, like Bill Lee?
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Kudos to those rational enough to realize the Sox didn't trade Renfroe to replace him with Bradley. Those horrified with the thought of seeing JBJ at the plate again seem to forget -- before cratering in a new league, on a new team vs. new pitchers in new parks -- he actually batted .283 with .814 OPS in the pandemic summer, just a year ago. Anyway, there's really not much difference on the big league roster today; Boston lost some power and gained some defense. Career K%: Renfroe 26.6%, JBJ 25.9%. Career dWAR: Renfroe -0.5, JBJ +9.6. The two prospects weren't throw-ins, though. They were targets.
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Kike's not playing 2B, except in a few games where JBJ matches up against a righty starter. But he may play LF, when JBJ moves to CF in late innings and a LF like Schwarber grabs some pine. Hopefully, Jackie can also mentor Duran how to play CF. Dugo is now the permanent RF. Bloom needs to replace Hunter's production, but it's arguable the defense just got better. Renfroe had a cannon, but was below average on D (he'll be remembered in Boston for his hackey-sack play on Keirmaier's double). But Bloom sold high, because this trade is really about getting two prospects from Milwaukee, with the Brewers insisting the Sox take Bradley's salary (similar to the Ottavino deal). I expect in-depth analysis on both minor leaguers -- here or elsewhere -- by the end of the day... there'll be time for full bios by the end of the lockout.
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A Realistic View at 2022: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Talking about lineups, trades and signings epitomizes talksox. It's what we do. Everyone is allowed to agree or disagree or ignore... or abhor (though that must be heavy to carry around). -
The first new CBA goal the union's trying to change is its very name; they're against any GM with a Collecting Bargains Agenda.
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Undecided. Right now it looks like Nadir 2024.
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A Realistic View at 2022: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I never thought he would, especially Taylor -- a jack of all knaves who wouldn't be a bargain. I'd be more shocked if Bloom signed Taylor than Correa. The lack of QO for Stroman is what gave guys like us hope, but we know Bloom's not giving a good-not-great pitcher $25 mil for even one year -- and no way for three or four; not when the Sox could ink 10 pitchers for $100 million total in the next four years... and one of them would probably wind up better than Stro. -
I didn't forget any of those, but mound trends have definitely changed in the just the past year alone. The best postseason starts in '21 came from mostly young guys, many of them rookies (though it's still a bit paranormal how Valdez and Garcia were suddenly hitless in back-to-back games and relatively ineffective the rest of October).
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Assuming they both preferred Boston over the teams with the best records in the AL and NL (in warm-weather states)...
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He always knows what he's doing, which is what he was hired for. Dinosaurs like me always want the best players available to join my team, but young front office guys are looking for the better values. And now that starting pitchers barely work half the innings of games these days, it can make sense to spend half as much on them. How many pennants have the Yankees won with Cole? How did it work out for the '20 champs after they signed the Cy Young winner last year? Why not sign four mediocre pitchers with careers half-full instead of one old Scherzer who could break down at any minute?
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Richard R. was at the top of my list of relief options worth pursuing last year. His dip in performance that left him off the Braves' postseason roster and got him cut either reflects a guy who slumped at the wrong time or someone with an injury (worse than cutting the thumb of his glove hand while chopping peppers). We all know bullpen arms have ups and downs in careers, but it's telling that the world champs already signed two other relievers just this week...
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I'd rather sign Rodon, 29 next month, than Kershaw, who'll be 34 in Spring Training. Both are injury risks, but the 5 WAR guy may actually be cheaper than the Hall of Famer who's looking at Scherzer's deal and thinking, "I was as good as him not too long ago -- and I'm five years younger." Just guessing, but Kershaw may be too proud to sign for one year to show his stuff, and if it's two years, he'll want Verlander pay. Rodon, who's never made $5M per, may be ecstatic with the same AAV as Gausman and Ray...
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I agree with this, but hopefully the Sox intend on locking up Devers soon. If they don't at least try it will be very depressing for this fan. Not because Raffy is my favorite player, but if a rich club won't pay a young guy like that, then who? Of course, negotiations will be private, but PR is important for a devoted fan base.
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Offseasons are obviously different now in Red Sox Nation. But that doesn't mean any poster is unreasonable -- not on a forum called talksox. No one should be hammering any fans who drop names of free agents -- available stars who can improve MLB rosters. For most of us -- old folks who follow the Red Sox closely -- the big leaguers are the only players we actually know about. It's rare for posters to crave the acquisition of some other franchise's callow minor leaguer who has one or two latent talents that young Chaim Bloom and his staff hope to gamble upon soon...
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Bloom was never going to splurge on a $43 million dollar pitcher or a $300 mil infielder (no matter how much "interest" is reported). But there's still time to be at least as good as last year -- on screen -- if he re-signs Schwarber and a good starting pitcher with no QO attached... Stroman? Rodon? Does anyone really believe any of those guys will be inked in Boston... by a CBO who doesn't sign guys for more than two years? Me neither (is this just the wrong decade to join talksox?)... The cost of good pitching in AAVs: Gausman $22M, Ray $23M, Verlander $25M. Stroman won't settle for less than fair market value, and he shouldn't. Rodon may have to, because of his injury-risks, but someone will pay him more than ERod. If Eovaldi has another solid showing in '22, is there any doubt he'll a $20M free agent starter in a year?
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A Realistic View at 2022: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Maybe the Sale and Bogaerts contracts were extensions, but they were pretty big add-ons to the payroll. And Eovaldi's contract was thought to be big at the time, but now he looks like a bargain -- he'll only be making $2 mil more than ERod next season. Chances are Nate will be worth considerably more soon than the average full-count/walk the leadoff batter/can't throw a shutdown inning type of starter. Apparently, Seager just got his $300+ million. Can anyone imagine Baez now settling for less than $200 mil? Can anyone imagine Bloom paying that to anyone, much less a guy who Ks nearly every three at bats? -
It's just impossible for some fans to ignore the numbers, as if $20 million a year is ok to pay one single human being for any job, but never $30 million or $40 million! For those that can, it may be easier to just accept that the best professionals at any position and industry deserve whatever salary is currently at the top of their market. Scherzer is as good as it gets on the mound right now, Trout is the best all-around player, Betts has proven he's as good as any other position player, Tatis and Franco are the best young stars, etc. etc. etc.
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A Realistic View at 2022: Part I
5GoldGlovesOF,75 replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I'm not sure what to think. Though some posters are positive Henry -- and thus, Bloom -- are bound to spend big when the right guy comes along "at the right time", that may be presumptive, at best. Boston's strategy the past three offseasons has paid off in the standings and on the farm. Why deter, Jeter? What's odd right now in this last minute spending splurge on free agents (before lockout) isn't the absence of the Red Sox, but the Yankees, and even Dodgers. We'll see what happens in the next day or two, but has any Yankee team ever needed an upgrade more than these pinstripers (at shortstop) -- at the same time the best crop of stars are available at that exact position... and NY has yet to swoop in and overpay immediately for the best guy -- with Steinbrenner money? -
I seem to recall reports at the trade deadline that Scherzer wanted to go the West Coast -- where he went and thrived. If LA offers him $50M for two years, would Max instead sign with NY for $51? I dunno, but I never thought he'd be a realistic candidate for Bloom because of both cost and age. As for Semien, his "most money" goal rules out Boston for sure. Maybe that explains why the Sox are one of three finalists for Baez -- as rumored today. The other clubs are the Tigers and Mets... Detroit is reportedly in on Baez because they don't want to spend $300M on Correa or Seager. But if Boston really wanted him, think of the pitch: "Would you rather play with the Mets -- who just signed three other position players; the Tigers -- to play behind ERod; or the Red Sox -- where you can reunite with Alex Cora? Which team is closest to the World Series?"
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Those who keep repeating it condemn us not to fogedaboudit.
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Well, the team that didn't win that had their Manager of the Year start three rookies in a row against a pretty good offense... Something to ponder about the improved, end-of-year Wacha, who relied more on breaking stuff: his ERA came on the AL's second-best team in Defensive Efficiency. Wacha's new club was last in the majors in '21 (I know it's only November, but where are the better fielders coming from again?).
