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There are people who absolutely love his hit tool and think he's going to be a league leader in OBP, a high-end lead-off guy. But this is Boston....we find the bad....we amplify the bad....we shut out everything else.....and we act accordingly. Funny isn't it? in the same day we complain about the Sox being cheap we can complain about them spending too much on a guy because someone said so. someone said so too that Bogaerts was overpaid, his contract left GM rivals stunned. But this is Boston, we get to have our cake and eat it too.

You can easily give Devers a 12 year deal with an opt out after the 3rd or 4th year. Which he will likely exercise and you probably lose him then BUT you get Devers for at least 3 more years in his prime.

All these "It aint' my money" folks (insert R**** sponge bob face meme) are hilarious. You realize EVERYONE resets every several years now? even the Mets have 100 million coming off the books next year and will reset. LA is going to reset this year. L freaking A. Here is some food for thought. If the Sox sign a free agent with a QO attached to it they're going to lose 1 million dollars in international bonus pool money, because they went over the cap this year. If the year was 2013, this would mean they are not signing Rafael Devers to a 1.5 million dollar contract. And if it was last year they're not signing Miguel Bleis, who if you haven't heard of him you will soon. He's probably the most hyped up international signee the Sox have had since Bogaerts, and could be a top prospect in all of baseball by next year. These things matter. If you can't see why they matter? it's ok.......baseball is a thinking mans sport.

Reports coming out that Bloom signed the wrong Japenese guy and was confused when he learned Yoshida can't pitch.

NERDSSSS!!!!!! NERDS!!!! Everyone point and laugh at the nerds! lets take their lunch money and shove them into lockers. Stupid nerds!

$25 the Mets reset the cap next year. I'll claim bonus credits for when LA resets this year.

Yeah, well.....my confidence isn't sky-high right now either. I'm thinking back to the Lester debacle. It was the same thing then. The Sox will never spend money! they're cheap! dumpster divers!!! then they go out and set the market with Price. So it's lessons from the past like that keeping my hopeful. Hopefully they don't wait a whole offseason this year, because there is still talent out there and they still have some money. They need a bat, preferably at SS, they need a good starting pitcher #2 caliber or potential, and they need to extend Devers. Someone needs to Leonardo DiCaprio this s*** and go into Blooms/Henrys dream and plant the ideal into their heads that they have balls. Big balls, and they need to use them.

O'Halloran is the G.M. and he doesn't handle the roster like we've been used to by GM's in the past. I don't think they were "lying" this winter. I think it was obvious they had every intention of resigning Bogaerts. They thought he was asking for too much money so they told him to go to FA and they intended to beat or match his best offer. That's why they were all smiles last week, and that's why one executive was quick to say "YES" without hesitation when asked if Boston was signing Bogaerts. The moment they saw the $280 million dollar price tag on Bogaerts they walked away (as they should have). I can see in hindsight why that might make them look like "liars" but that's not lying. In the end, the Sox misjudged Bogaerts market. We can throw around the words and get all mad and blame as many people as we want too but there isn't some sinister plot to destroy Boston with Malice going on. They misjudged Bogaerts market, that's it. That alone is enough to call them incompetent.

I think it's worth noting, that the Sox have a good gm who ultimately couldn't do anything to keep Bogaerts here.

Saying something is possible, and something is likely are two entirely different things. I'll say it again, John Henry doesn't have the testicles.

I think we are all upset, but I wouldn’t ever want Shaughnessy being on the same page with my jokes

Who thinks that?

Sox are still $110 million under NEXT years cap, which is the year they’ll need to reset if they stay over next. Henry doesn’t have the balls to do this, but they could easily go Correa/Senga/extend Devers. I think Sox fans would be happy with that offseason, and it would go a long way to mitigate the loss of a star homegrown talent like Bogey.

It’s not about blowing past the tax line as much as it’s about being able to get under. Even LA resets, and I speculate they’re going to this year. That takes them out of the running for Correa I believe. Sox could hypothetically sign Correa, a pitcher, extend Devers, and reset next year. They do t have to this year, and they’ll have another 70 million to spend next year (minus contractual commitments taking them over this year)

Not that Henry wants too, but they could easily sign Correa and sign a pitcher and resign Raffy, and be in a position to STILL reset the luxury tax next year.

If you wanna see him hit

Maybe, but I think the Yankees will try to reset next year.

Well….there’s Correa. Plug up SS and the middle of your lineup. Conforto would be perfect if he was RH, still I like him better than Brantley on a 1 year deal

aside from a seismic shift in strategy, Devers is your LAD starting 3B in 2024.

I take this back, I was stuck on this years FA class and was thinking about Senga not Ohtani

My biggest knock on Swanson was his arm, but it's not like he can't pick it at SS. He's probably fine at SS for at least another couple years. I liked Correa/Bogaerts because I saw them as guys who could eventually move to third but Swanson could probably easily shift over to 2nd in a couple of years when we are ready to hand the keys over to Mayer. However there's only one problem here, the Sox are likely not signing Swanson. That's fine if they replace Bogey's bat elsewhere and get a stop gap SS in the mold of my above post. But with Xander gone there's so much pressure to resign Devers. If Bloom can't resign Devers, I think a WS berth is the only thing on earth that could keep him here in Boston.

Not signins Xander was a bummer, but before that....has it really been a bad offseason? Would like to see them add to the rotation and they probably will. I don't think the Sox go this route. But, if they ended up signing a starter and Correa or Swanson, how do we feel about his team after that? If they add Correa/Eovalid/Senga and look at the other additions wouldn't you feel a heck of a lot better going into 2023? Personally, I think they're going to go for Segura or Andrus to plus up SS for a few years until Mayer is ready, and use the rest of their AAV on a starter, and one of Brantley/Conforto. Would prefer a RHH but, unless you're going big at SS I don't see that happening. Brantley would give you a guy who could play some OF but will DH a lot and give you a high OBP, he can lead off if Yoshida struggles out the gate, and if Yoshida is the real deal you have a strong 1-2 high OBP at the top of your lineup. Something we haven't had in a while. But that lineup is going to struggle vs. LHP too. I think Bloom has a few more tricks up his sleeve. I'm not saying they're great tricks, but the offseason isn't over and he's going to plug the holes with something. Intriguing or garbage. A trade could shock us.

But we could overpay for other guys? I don't buy theres no chance the Sox land Ohtani, but....I don't think it's likely. maybe a 5-10% chance.

It’s not not a boras move. He the money early in his career for security. The opt out allowed to get him $280 million. That’s why the opt out was there, him and Boras ain’t dumb. Which is why I feel it was always a forgone conclusion he was going to FA. There no way he was resigning in Boston unless the paid the “buy now price” It’s a good strategy if you’re reading the market right. If the reports that Bogey would have taken $160/$170 from Boston a year ago are correct then Boston is wrong. They misread the market and totally effed this up.

I'm keeping Houk, we've seen what Bloom ad to spend to try and get this pen right, and he could have spent a lot more if he wanted to go after the premium closers. Houck may be a closer or set up man in waiting, and he's young and cost controlled. I'm keeping him.